Joan Wang wrote:
> If data can be transcribed as elements in categories, such as Author,
> Name: Date: Affiliation: , and then authority records could be
> automatically created. Is that right? Just my imagination :)
>
>
Could be. So far in MARC, the 38x fields populate both bib and authorit
's
>> suggestion.
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> All of this information on persons' affiliations could be recorded in our
It may not be the same as AACR2 but it has the same gist (gyst?): don't
include any unnecesary verbiage that does not add to the reponsible agent.
This would include personal names that have forename and surname. When
surname is only available and a title is present, use it.
When corporate bodies
On 3/12/2013 9:07 AM, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote:
> But 2.4.1.4 states, "Transcribe a statement of responsibility in the
> form in which it appears on the source of information." Immediately
> followed by the "optional omission", "Abridge a statement of
> responsibility only if it can be abridge
> All of this information on persons' affiliations could be recorded in our
authority > records -- is it really necessary to repeat it all in our
bibliographic records as
> well?
I got an impression that one day data represented in authority records
could be viewed or searched in end-users' client
I too would like to add my voice in support of Ben's position. Applying
2.4.1.4 as it stands, without applying the optional admission, is bound to
lead in some cases to extremely lengthy and hard-to-read statements of
responsibility, especially when four or more authors and/or editors are
named on
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Personally I would prefer that the optional omission be applied in these cases.
There is value to the "p
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> Well, I thought I would go back to 2.4.1.4 and see wh
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Well, I thought I would go back to 2.4.1.4 and see what it says.
It appears to be very much in line with AACR2. I did not see anything l
Well, I thought I would go back to 2.4.1.4 and see what it says.
It appears to be very much in line with AACR2. I did not see anything like
the examples given in previous e-mails. Titles are omitted. They don't
really add anything to the area of responsibility. I did see "Professors"
used once
Daniel posted:
>"edited by J. Garland, [of] Cambridge Carbonates UK; J.E. Neilson,
.[of] University of Aberdeen, UK; S.E. Laubach, [of] University of
.Texas at Austin, USA and K.J. Whidden, [of] USGS, USA"
This has the same difficulty presented by "by", "par", etc. introduced
into statements of
Kevin suggested a helpful use of cataloger-introduced punctuation:
"edited by J. Garland (Cambridge Carbonates UK), J.E. Neilson (University of
Aberdeen, UK), S.E. Laubach University of Texas at Austin, USA) and K.J.
Whidden (USGS, USA)"
I could also see :
"edited by J. Garland, [of] Cambridge
ions on what is appropriate to
include.
Keith
Keith Trickey
Lead Trainer at Sherrington Sanders
Liverpool. UK
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Ben posted:
>
Ben posted:
>"edited by J. Garland, Cambridge Carbonates UK, J.E. Neilson, University of=
> Aberdeen, UK, S.E. Laubach, University of Texas at Austin, USA and K.J. Wh=
>idden, USGS, USA"
Ben, I agree that this is more complicated and harder to read the a
statement omitting the affiliations.
It m
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Does RDA require to transcribe affiliations of auth
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Do peo
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Does RDA require to transcribe affiliations of authors? The rule only mentions
"in the form".
2.
Oh, boy!
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote:
> Do people really think
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> "edited by J. Garland, Cambridge Carbonates UK, J.E. Neilson, University
> of Aberdeen, UK, S.E. Laubach, University of Texas at Austin, USA and K.J.
> Whidden, USGS, USA"
>
> *
orthwestern.edu
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> (847) 491-2939
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> Proudly wearing the sensible shoes since 1978!
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I wonder if the statement would read better if we punctuated it differently,
e.g.:
"edited by J. Garland (Cambridge Carbonates UK), J
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Do people really think
"edited by J. Garland, Cambridge Carbonates UK, J.E. Neilson, University of
Aberdeen, UK, S.E. Laubach, University of Texas at Austin, USA and K.J.
Whidden, USGS, USA"
is more helpful and unambiguous to users than,
"edited by J. Garland, J.E. Neilson, S.E. Laubach, and K
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