Re: RDA to FRBR mapping

2007-06-25 Thread Antony Gordon
J. McRee Elrod schrieb: I doubt whether most will ever grasp the distinction between manifestation and expression. I think both terms should be tossed for edition, which has served us well. Cheers! Why indeed not say edition instead of expression, and where it is important to

Re: RDA to FRBR mapping

2007-06-25 Thread Bernhard Eversberg
Antony Gordon wrote: Why indeed not say edition instead of expression, and where it is important to differentiate between textually identical versions in different formats, just say versions. Might be a tad easier to grasp. Less flashy, though, but that's something most in the trade may be

Re: RDA to FRBR mapping

2007-06-25 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Anthony Gordon said: Sorry, but that's rather a bibliocentric view. Edition makes no sense for sound recordings ... Edition and/or version would be better understood than neologisms such as expression and manifestation, even in relation to film or sound recordings. We've long accepted that

Re: RDA to FRBR mapping

2007-06-21 Thread Lisa Roberts
. McRee Elrod Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 9:43 PM To: RDA-L@INFOSERV.NLC-BNC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA to FRBR mapping Jonathan Rochkind said: How can the system magically create what the cataloger never recorded in the first place? At the time of first cataloguing of an item which is a new

Re: RDA to FRBR mapping

2007-06-20 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Martha M. Yee said: The fundamental assumption behind this mapping project, as explained in the first paragraph, is an incorrect assumption. The elements of the bibliographic description cannot logically be mapped to one and only one FRBR entity. Which points up the basic falicy of the

Re: RDA to FRBR mapping

2007-06-20 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
How can the system magically create what the cataloger never recorded in the first place? Asking the system to create expression and manifestation, but telling the cataloger to ignore the fact that such things exist is just asking for trouble. On the one hand, we have Martha saying that the

Re: RDA to FRBR mapping

2007-06-20 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Jonathan Rochkind said: How can the system magically create what the cataloger never recorded in the first place? At the time of first cataloguing of an item which is a new work/manifestation/expression/item. relationships among these abstract concepts don't exist to be recorded. Whether or