[RE-wrenches] Moving batteries

2014-03-19 Thread William Miller
Friends: I'm installing 12 deka FLA batteries. They're 1860 pounds each and none of the local movers want to touch them since they're considered hazmat. Have any of you ever addressed this problem? As always, thanks in advance. William Miller ___

[RE-wrenches] NEC 690.10(C) talking points

2014-03-19 Thread Dan Fink
Esteemed Wrenches; Can anyone here help me with some simple talking points for clients installing off grid systems? 240 Well pumps hard wired to panel breakers are common, but everybody (who has even a chance of surviving up here in middle of nowhere way off grid) NEEDS a 240v welder outlet in the

Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC 690.10(C) talking points

2014-03-19 Thread William Korthof
I think I'm missing something; 690.10 is part of the solar article. A 240 volt welder outlet (utility outlet, usually NEMA #6-50) isn't pertinent to solar, and is allowed anywhere as far as i know, indoors or out. Well, maybe not above the bathtub... /wk William Korthof 714.875.3576

Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC 690.10(C) talking points

2014-03-19 Thread Dave Click
Dan, 690.10(C) doesn't say no. It says that if you have a single 120V inverter output connected directly for a 120/240 panel then you can't put a 240V load in the panel-- in this case you'd either have L connected to both phases of the panel or I guess you could just use half the breakers in

Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC 690.10(C) talking points

2014-03-19 Thread John
How often do you use a welder on a day by day basis. Run it off a suitable generator (which everyone in the middle of nowhere has anyway for back-up) John V From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Dan Fink Sent:

Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC 690.10(C) talking points

2014-03-19 Thread frenergy
Dan, If your client is stuck on the idea of a stick welder, the 120 volt models are pretty cheesy...240V is the way to go. However, I've welded many miles of steel with a Miller 120 volt wire feed machine that does 3/16 material easy and 1/4 if the joint design is set up right. Yes,

Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC 690.10(C) talking points

2014-03-19 Thread Allan Sindelar
Dan, It took me a bit of reading replies to understand the issue you are addressing. If the issue is as simple as not running 240V loads off of a panel supplied by 120V inverter output, then you have three approaches. You would expect to run off of either a