Re: [RE-wrenches] Lightning protection system

2009-03-10 Thread Darryl Thayer
- From: Darryl Thayer daryl_so...@yahoo.com To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Lightning protection system Thanks Joel the Lightning and Transients research Institute has been closed, I am sorry

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar Pathfinder vs Solmetric

2009-03-09 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hello I use both. I am impressed with the what appers to be rapid improvement with the Solmetric. Also with the for my experiance better customer service with solmetric. I like the ability to use NREL TMY-3 with Solmetric, and the effect of orentation on performance using the web based

Re: [RE-wrenches] How large is too large?

2009-03-02 Thread Darryl Thayer
Of course, but perhaps it is a generator system with solar assist. Do you have a kWh/day estimate? When you size and price kWh cost of the generator running with they will come to their senses. Use Homer (NREL) to give a basis for energy costing, they have suggested numbers for

Re: [RE-wrenches] Stand-Alone DC Relays?

2009-02-24 Thread Darryl Thayer
One problem you are facing is the apparent state of charge is reflected by battery terminal voltage is a very inacurate measure. It is of course affected by rate of charge and discharge. Another approach would be to use the FN-DC and set it to alarm on state of charge instead of voltage.

Re: [RE-wrenches] SHW Production Estimator

2009-02-20 Thread Darryl Thayer
HI I partook in some calculation to real comparasions several years ago. In general the results from F-Chart software and I think Maui? did a rather good job. The RetScreen is very limited at present, to bad because it is so easy and accessable. ( I think Retscreen is taken over by

Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP

2009-02-13 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi Mike I think that NABCEAP is an important part of the solar community, I would vote for them being allowed. perhaps a limited time access incase there is problems. Darryl --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Michael Welch michael.we...@re-wrenches.org wrote: From: Michael Welch

Re: [RE-wrenches] Magnum MS4448AE Compatibility Question

2009-02-11 Thread Darryl Thayer
Some of the hot surface ignitors I have seen draw a lot of current, in the order of amps. I would expect the inverter to drop out if it were overloaded however. Also does the magnum drop voltage at very low loads? Where the furnace controls can not function due to low voltage or poor wave

Re: [RE-wrenches] sharp triangle modules

2009-02-07 Thread Darryl Thayer
HI Jay Yes, I have done one using the unirack system, top down mounts, the layout rack-mounting time was excessive, but the final product was acceptable. Darryl --- On Sat, 2/7/09, jay peltz j...@asis.com wrote: From: jay peltz j...@asis.com Subject: [RE-wrenches] sharp triangle modules

Re: [RE-wrenches] Galvanic compatibility of commonly used solar materials

2009-02-01 Thread Darryl Thayer
hi i have seen fast corrosion of copper on galvanized, it also seems as if once the galvanized is gone the steel underneath rusts very fast. I have had good stability of galvanized on aluminum (or anodized aluminum. --- On Mon, 1/26/09, August Goers aug...@luminalt.com wrote: From:

Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP Testing RAVE

2009-01-16 Thread Darryl Thayer
I think you have a very valid point. The testing travel distance is a real burden. It appears to me that If a valid test site, a bonded proctor, and enough candates can be provided, this should be acceptable. We offered the above last year and was turned down. Daryl --- On Thu, 1/15/09,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback VFX input voltage cycling

2008-12-31 Thread Darryl Thayer
HI all and Ron In my previous post I said the inverter FET board, I am wrong, it would have to be the AC board or the generator is running out of frequency spec. Place a load on the generator, so it runs in power note idle, use your meter to measure the generator frequency, set the inverter

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback VFX input voltage cycling

2008-12-27 Thread Darryl Thayer
It sounds like the AC charge current is set to high, with the batteries being low the inverter charge rate is overloading the gen set. The gen set voltage drops and the inverter releases the genny and the voltage returns, the inverter reloads the genny and the cycle repeats. If this worked

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation

2008-12-25 Thread Darryl Thayer
If each string is composed of only one orientation then there would be little loss. There have been a couple of papers on this at different conferences. I also think John Berdner wrote a paper on it for SMA. (I think the annual losses are in the nature of 2 to 5 %) If however a single

Re: [RE-wrenches] Breaker tripping question

2008-12-19 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi Allan I have had this problem. I can name a few installations where it happens. I think that it is the high ripple current if you have and average of 35 amps but it comes in a current that is 50% ripple, you have a thermal response of X^2 /2 or about twice the heating. So a thermal

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wind Loads by state

2008-12-17 Thread Darryl Thayer
Retscreen has some wind data, and a wind calculator, however it has the same problem as it has with solar, in that it is difficult to modeling using there code and you are very limited in applications. What I would like to see would be a CFD derived emperical model of micro siting. mode

Re: [RE-wrenches] Module Connectors (MC 4 Solarline Tyco)

2008-12-16 Thread Darryl Thayer
I assume the old MC is the same as the MC1 and Solarline1? Also that the tyco, Solarline 2 and MC 4 are also the same? Plese correct if I am wrong. Darryl --- On Tue, 12/16/08, William Miller wrmil...@charter.net wrote: From: William Miller wrmil...@charter.net Subject: Re:

Re: [RE-wrenches] SDHW and Tankless Heaters

2008-12-07 Thread Darryl Thayer
HI using my old brain, there is a Tagki or like that makes a larger one. Just a word of caution, I have had customer complaints on every tankless water heater I have installed for SDHW, and never a complaint on the solar preheat to or one tank solar that I have done. Darryl --- On Sun,

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV vs. Genset

2008-11-20 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi Joel HOMER by NREL does just exactly this type calculation, and is not difficult to use, NREL.GOV Daryl --- On Thu, 11/20/08, Joel Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Joel Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RE-wrenches] PV vs. Genset To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Date:

Re: [RE-wrenches] grid-tie inverters generators

2008-11-20 Thread Darryl Thayer
hI ALL I have not done what you are talking about, but in different setting the inverter charger would punch holes in the sine wave as the generator ran and the inverter/charger or even a big battery charger ran. By reducing the charging rate the size of the holes in the sine wave would

Re: [RE-wrenches] battery box fan

2008-11-07 Thread Darryl Thayer
If your fan is less than 1 amp, like a small computer fan, you can power the fan directly, else you have a problem, because you have 48 volts and need a 48 volt fan or a voltage coverter 48 to 12 volts. Solar converters makes such an item aloong with others. Darryl --- On Fri, 11/7/08, Larry

Re: [RE-wrenches] battery box fan

2008-11-07 Thread Darryl Thayer
the contacts in series. Find the current rating of the Fan and make sure the relay contact rating is greater than this. Darryl --- On Fri, 11/7/08, Darryl Thayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Darryl Thayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] battery box fan To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches

Re: [RE-wrenches] Micro Hydro control

2008-09-30 Thread Darryl Thayer
HI I should not speak, but, I thought the nozzel had to be sized to the flow to attain efficiency. So if you have a 4 kW it can not be throtted except by changing nozzle size or stopping the flow in some nozzles, does this mean you could use solinoid valves? Also a MPPT controller for Hydro

Re: [RE-wrenches] evergreen panels diode problems

2008-09-21 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi all this all seems strange, perhaps the high positive voltage on the front of the cells causes a build up of charge attracting the negatively charged dust in the air. Locally we have a DC power line each line either 450,000 volts either positive or Negative. They reverse the polarity about

Re: [RE-wrenches] Actual losses from dissimilar orientations on single inverter

2008-09-12 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi all There are a couple of principals here 1) NEVER NEVER PUT TWO STRINGS OF DIFFERENT ORIENTATION IN SERIES!! 2)The currents are dependent upon irradiance, which varies greatly. 3) The voltage and the Vmp is rather close for varying irradiance, and therefore if forced non coincident

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fake Email solar orders

2008-09-11 Thread Darryl Thayer
When this first happened to me I tried to contact the police, and even the FBI but I found that was a waste of time also. Also beware of fake casheers checks. Darryl --- On Thu, 9/11/08, Todd Cory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Todd Cory [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Fake

Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP succumbs to IBEW pressure?

2008-09-08 Thread Darryl Thayer
HI all I am forwarding R. Eaton's (NABCEP exc director) response to earilier post Hello, thank you for inviting me into the conversation about the eligibility criteria for taking NABCEP's Solar PV Exam. There seems to be some misinformation floating around and I am writing to clarify NABCEP’s

Re: [RE-wrenches] Followup to Surrette Battery Question

2008-09-06 Thread Darryl Thayer
jus to add my two cents worth, in Minnesota, all well water is at saturation with Calicum Carbonate, and some at saturation with FeO? some wells have red rust such that the water comes from the tap red. I thought all wells were like that. When softened Calcium Carbonate ion exchanges to Na

Re: [RE-wrenches] battery reference gen start module

2008-08-28 Thread Darryl Thayer
I find the Outback FNDC has the ability to track the state of charge using net energy into the battery and net energy out. Therefore one can use the SOC directly to start generator and charge batteries and not relay on battery voltage. I have not used the Apollo for this purpose but believe

Re: [RE-wrenches] Power-Save and Power Works

2008-08-25 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi peter Very interesting question and perhaps the fellow from excel tech could help. First the current limits from an inverter is for total current, both reactive and in phase. But the starting and running currents for motors are from both reactive and in phase current. Is the reactive

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium batteries.....

2008-08-24 Thread Darryl Thayer
Here is a far out idea. Why not try to work with Li-ion from a battery tool. Such as a Ryobi LI-Ion battery, 18 volts, I would guess from performance they start new at 5 AH and 18 volts. The step down can come from AM or Solar Converters or one of the other step down converter people.

Re: [RE-wrenches] offgrid system question

2008-08-19 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi Max AC surge I would never put that large an AC on that small a system. The inverter surge must be considered, and the 104 amps surge from the AC does sound real. I think you are correct, the soft Start is no more than an extra capascitor. (I approximate the AC at 1kW/ton so the running

Re: [RE-wrenches] Large offgrid system

2008-08-07 Thread Darryl Thayer
Hi Jay I have not had experience with the sunny boy island. but I have had with the Outback. In my case I would go with outback. The capability of the FNDC would make my decision. I have done a five inverter stand alone 6 yr ago (maybe seven), and it is still working fine. Same batteries.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Imbalanced Legs in 3-Phase systems

2008-08-07 Thread Darryl Thayer
I have heard the 6kW imbalance rule. However when I spoke with the area Engineer from the Utility, he said he would not be at all concerned with 10% imbalance. in fact unless I was to exceed 20% not to worry. The system was a 800 amp 480 volt. He of course said my concern is more where I

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