Re: [RE-wrenches] AC wiring loss on micro-inverters

2010-06-12 Thread Nick Soleil
From: David Brearley david.brear...@solarprofessional.com To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Fri, June 11, 2010 1:04:13 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC wiring loss on micro-inverters Re: [RE-wrenches] AC wiring loss on micro-inverters

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC wiring loss on micro-inverters

2010-06-12 Thread Marv Dargatz
Petaluma, CA 94953 Cell: 707-321-2937 Office: 707-789-9537 Fax: 707-769-9037 From: David Brearley david.brear...@solarprofessional.com To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Fri, June 11, 2010 1:04:13 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC wiring loss on micro-inverters

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC wiring loss on micro-inverters

2010-06-11 Thread Nick Soleil
Hello wrenches and Marv: How many Enphase inverters do you put on a single parallel string? The Enphase manual allows for up to 15, but I have found that a single string of 15 can have very high voltage rise on the AC wiring. Up to 1.5% loss just on the Enphase cables, and that does not

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC wiring loss on micro-inverters

2010-06-11 Thread markf
Nick, Good to see other wrenches looking at this issue. However, remember that in the interconnect cable between the last and the second to last Enphase, the current is small. If you really want to see how the loss is adding up you need a more detailed analysis that averages the voltage drop for

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC wiring loss on micro-inverters

2010-06-11 Thread jay peltz
Hi Nick, You bring up a good point that Enphase should address more clearly. However, I think the math should be done section by section to accurately account for the wire loss and not the total combined amps for the entire length. If the loss's are too high then reducing the number in each

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC wiring loss on micro-inverters

2010-06-11 Thread Nick Soleil
657 Petaluma, CA 94953 Cell: 707-321-2937 Office: 707-789-9537 Fax:707-769-9037 From: ma...@berkeleysolar.com ma...@berkeleysolar.com To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Fri, June 11, 2010 7:02:00 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC wiring

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC wiring loss on micro-inverters

2010-06-11 Thread David Brearley
-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Fri, June 11, 2010 7:02:00 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC wiring loss on micro-inverters Nick, Good to see other wrenches looking at this issue. However, remember that in the interconnect cable between the last and the second to last

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC wiring loss on micro-inverters

2010-06-11 Thread Kirk Herander, VSE
-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of David Brearley Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 4:04 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC wiring loss on micro-inverters Maybe Marv can help out here. I've talked with tech support at Enphase and am under the impression that you can center tap their branch circuits

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC wiring loss on micro-inverters

2010-06-11 Thread Jeff Yago
I just attended a training class in Philly last week by Enphase technical staff and my notes say they suggest up to 15 micro-inverters @ 190 watts each per string with no problem. They also are now shipping their dual module micro-inverter which should help with this wire issue since this model

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC wiring loss on micro-inverters

2010-06-11 Thread Darryl Thayer
values are from Chapter 9 Table 8 of the NEC Darryl --- On Fri, 6/11/10, Jeff Yago jry...@netscape.com wrote: From: Jeff Yago jry...@netscape.com Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC wiring loss on micro-inverters To: k...@vtsolar.com, RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Date: Friday, June 11