Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers

2010-10-05 Thread North Texas Renewable Energy Inc
To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers The only way to do a capacity test is with a load bank over the rated discharge period of the batteries, it they have a 6 hour rate, use that one. The 20 hour rate takes too long! Voltage is a moving target and pretty

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers

2010-10-04 Thread North Texas Renewable Energy Inc
: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:23 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers I know many on this list disagree, but this sounds SO typical for sealed batteries. It is why I never use em... never! If they are 5 years old, you are probably at the limit of their life

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers

2010-10-04 Thread toddcory
I know many on this list disagree, but this sounds SO typical for sealed batteries. It is why I never use em... never! If they are 5 years old, you are probably at the limit of their life. Replace em with flooded lead calciums and your customers (and you) will be happy for 20+ years. my .o2

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers

2010-10-04 Thread jay peltz
HI Todd, I agree that the issue is probably dead batteries. In regard to the calciums, what is the added cost per life. ie if they cost 3x as much and last 4 x as long when you calc in MX, venting etc, costs might be pretty close? thanks, jay peltz power On Oct 4, 2010, at 12:22 AM,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers

2010-10-04 Thread Mark Frye
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of toddc...@finestplanet.com Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 12:23 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers I know many on this list disagree, but this sounds SO typical for sealed batteries. It is why I

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers

2010-10-04 Thread Dan Fink
Wrenches; I have quite a bit of experience with flooded lead-calcium vs. traditional flooded lead-antimony battery banks in remote, off-grid locations, over the course of the last 15 years. As always, your mileage may vary. On the positive side, lead calcium cells have a low self-discharge

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers

2010-10-04 Thread toddcory
. Or is the capacity checker a waste of money. Jim Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]on Behalf Of toddc...@finestplanet.com Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:23 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers

2010-10-04 Thread toddcory
Perhaps James @ Surrette can chime in about the cost difference. I do not think flooded lead calciums are much more expensive then flooded lead antimony batteries. Todd On Monday, October 4, 2010 8:00am, jay peltz j...@asis.com said: HI Todd, I agree that the issue is probably dead

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers

2010-10-04 Thread toddcory
, October 04, 2010 12:23 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers I know many on this list disagree, but this sounds SO typical for sealed batteries. It is why I never use em... never! If they are 5 years old, you are probably at the limit of their life. Replace em

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers

2010-10-04 Thread James Surrette
- From: toddc...@finestplanet.com To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: 10/4/2010 5:25:51 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers Perhaps James @ Surrette can chime in about the cost difference. I do not think flooded lead calciums are much more expensive then flooded

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers

2010-10-04 Thread holtek
Products 500 Jewell Dr. Waco TX. 76712 254-751-9111 www.holteksolar.com - Original Message - From: toddc...@finestplanet.com To: RE-wrenches Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers The battery choice was the decision

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers

2010-10-04 Thread Carl Emerson
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers Lead cadmium or lead calcium? Again, I do not have the cycle chart handy, but hopefully James can post that. Todd On Monday, October 4, 2010 8:11am, Mark Frye ma...@berkeleysolar.com said: Todd, Can you give us a comparison of lead vs

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers

2010-10-04 Thread toddcory
...@finestplanet.com Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:23 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers I know many on this list disagree, but this sounds SO typical for sealed batteries. It is why I never use em... never! If they are 5 years old, you are probably

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers

2010-10-04 Thread Darryl Thayer
was not to hard but I learned something.  Darryl --- On Mon, 10/4/10, hol...@sbcglobal.net hol...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: hol...@sbcglobal.net hol...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Date: Monday, October 4, 2010, 4

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers

2010-10-04 Thread jay peltz
: From: hol...@sbcglobal.net hol...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Date: Monday, October 4, 2010, 4:46 PM ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers

2010-10-04 Thread bob ellison
-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of North Texas Renewable Energy Inc Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:36 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers Todd I've heard the same arguement, as well as its inverse. The battery choice was the decision

[RE-wrenches] Battery capacity testers

2010-10-03 Thread North Texas Renewable Energy Inc
I have a customer with a set of 24 Concord PVX-6480s that have twice failed during grid outages during the night. No large loads are on the critical load panel and, since it's at night when they drop to 50% dod, I'm not sure what's up with them. I plan on cleaning and retightning all the cable