Re: [RE-wrenches] Connecting Two Grid-Battery Backup Inverters to 120/208

2012-12-01 Thread Christopher Warfel
Hi William, Thank you. I am leaning towards the second option. Hopefully I can draw it out and understand it first! Thank you again, Chris On 11/28/2012 11:30 PM, William Korthof wrote: You could use a 120:120volt, with both the first and second inverters using the same phase, but the xfmr

Re: [RE-wrenches] Connecting Two Grid-Battery Backup Inverters to 120/208

2012-12-01 Thread Christopher Warfel
I think we can do this. Each does have its own neutral, (we added one). Outback didn't mention this possibility. It's definitely worth a shot. We only have an one hour window to work on this in any one day do to the operation of the facility. Thank you. Chris On 11/28/2012 11:56 PM, Philip

Re: [RE-wrenches] Connecting Two Grid-Battery Backup Inverters to 120/208

2012-12-01 Thread Christopher Warfel
SW generate 3 phase. *From:* lance barker lanc...@centurytel.net *To:* RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org *Sent:* Thursday, November 29, 2012 8:29 AM *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Connecting Two Grid-Battery Backup

Re: [RE-wrenches] Connecting Two Grid-Battery Backup Inverters to 120/208

2012-11-29 Thread Darryl Thayer
generate 3 phase.     From: lance barker lanc...@centurytel.net To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Connecting Two Grid-Battery Backup Inverters to 120/208 I'm up On Nov 28, 2012

[RE-wrenches] Connecting Two Grid-Battery Backup Inverters to 120/208

2012-11-28 Thread Christopher Warfel
We were asked to replace two failed Trace SW4048 inverters with two Outback GT3048 inverters. Upon start up the slave inverter would not connect. We did not realize that the building service is 208, 3 phase. The bypass is 120/240 which the SW4048s could connect to without a problem. Outback

Re: [RE-wrenches] Connecting Two Grid-Battery Backup Inverters to 120/208

2012-11-28 Thread William Miller
Chris: I am surprised that the SW inverters connected to this service. They may not have been synced properly. Was there a ribbon cable between the two inverters? Maybe this is why they failed... Are there 240 VAC loads in the system? If not, you can configure the inverters in parallel

Re: [RE-wrenches] Connecting Two Grid-Battery Backup Inverters to 120/208

2012-11-28 Thread penobscotsolar
Chris, We had a problem similar to this in the Bahamas, only with a Radian instead of an FX series inverter. We used an Acme transformer, 3 ph 208 on one side, single phase 120/240 on the other end. It was about $1200 for the transformer. Acme is in Tennessee I believe and we worked with one of

Re: [RE-wrenches] Connecting Two Grid-Battery Backup Inverters to 120/208

2012-11-28 Thread Chris Mason
Use a 208 - 240/120 transformer. Use 3 x sunny islands On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Christopher Warfel cwar...@entech-engineering.com wrote: We were asked to replace two failed Trace SW4048 inverters with two Outback GT3048 inverters. Upon start up the slave inverter would not connect.

[RE-wrenches] Connecting Two Grid-Battery Backup Inverters to 120/208

2012-11-28 Thread William Korthof
You could use a 120:120volt, with both the first and second inverters using the same phase, but the xfmr secondary used to supply 120 volts out of phase from the primary for the slave. Voila, auto-transformer 120:240 split phase power. Downsides are the heavy loading all on one phase and

Re: [RE-wrenches] Connecting Two Grid-Battery Backup Inverters to 120/208

2012-11-28 Thread Philip
We had exactly this scenario at Dankoff Solar, to back up all the computer loads in the business. The building was 120/208, and the two SW inverters would sync to their respective phases, 120 degrees apart. The fun part was watching them on a scope when you shut off grid power -- they would