Re: [RE-wrenches] DC conductor line loss numbers

2015-07-27 Thread Jarmo . Venalainen
...@glbcc.com To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org, Date: 07/25/2015 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] DC conductor line loss numbers Sent by: RE-wrenches re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org You would want to confirm hot temp PV circuit values with chosen Vdrop to ensure the irrelevant

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC conductor line loss numbers

2015-07-27 Thread jerrysgarage01
From: jarmo.venalai...@schneider-electric.com Date: 07/27/2015 5:34 AM (GMT-10:00) To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] DC conductor line loss numbers Hi: When deciding on voltage drops and otherwise working out the design of a solar system, one

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC conductor line loss numbers

2015-07-25 Thread William Miller
I have worked out the area under the daily bell curve. A 2% loss at max current equals 1% loss average. Maybe this logic could allow some flexibility. William On Jul 25, 2015, at 5:52 AM, Jerry Shafer jerrysgarag...@gmail.com wrote: Wrenches I have 3 engineering firms and one in-house

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC conductor line loss numbers

2015-07-25 Thread Chris Mason
It should be noted that the NEC recommendations for feeder circuits are to do with acceptable voltages at the load, i.e., you do not want your 208V equipment running on 200V. PV circuits are not feeder circuits, voltage drop is irrelevant. Power loss may be relevant, but only in terms of economic

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC conductor line loss numbers

2015-07-25 Thread Glenn Burt
Mason cometenergysyst...@gmail.com Sent: ‎7/‎25/‎2015 15:20 To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] DC conductor line loss numbers It should be noted that the NEC recommendations for feeder circuits are to do with acceptable voltages at the load, i.e., you do

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC conductor line loss numbers

2015-07-24 Thread Jerry Shafer
Wrenches I have 3 engineering firms and one in-house engineer that only use 1% because in the NEC it is stated as a suggestion and not a requirement but they take this as a must not exceed instead, I cant change CC as it will be remotely monitored via the Outback connection, the Engineers refuse

[RE-wrenches] DC conductor line loss numbers

2015-07-22 Thread Jerry Shafer
Wrenches Some time back there was discussion on the conductor size and efficiency rating requirement for long DC runs. What I am looking at is this, 400 feet of MCM 400 to keep the line loss at or below 1% per NEC code for an off grid application, cost vs return is not acceptable. 2/0 is less than

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC conductor line loss numbers

2015-07-22 Thread Roy Rakobitsch
Maybe 600vdc charge controller? Roy Rakobitsch NABCEP Certified Small Wind Installer® NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer® Certified Advanced Tower Climbing, Safety Rescue Wind/PV Design Engineer Windsine LLC 631-514-4166 www.windsine.org On Jul 22, 2015 1:52 PM, Jerry Shafer

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC conductor line loss numbers

2015-07-22 Thread Brian Teitelbaum
Of *Jerry Shafer *Sent:* Wednesday, July 22, 2015 10:38 AM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] DC conductor line loss numbers Wrenches Some time back there was discussion on the conductor size and efficiency rating requirement for long DC runs. What I am looking at is this, 400 feet of MCM

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC conductor line loss numbers

2015-07-22 Thread Starlight Solar Power Systems
Jerry, A long distance wire run is practical now days using a high voltage controller. Have a look at Schneider and Morningstar 600Vdc controllers. Not sure what you mean by nothing can be changed but wire size” but you will have to rewire the strings into series and protect the wire run.

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC conductor line loss numbers

2015-07-22 Thread Jarmo . Venalainen
@lists.re-wrenches.org, Date: 07/22/2015 11:52 AM Subject: [RE-wrenches] DC conductor line loss numbers Sent by: RE-wrenches re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org Wrenches Some time back there was discussion on the conductor size and efficiency rating requirement for long DC runs. What I am