Re: [RE-wrenches] Remote Alert and Bootstrapping on Sunny Island AC Coupled System-Follow up

2020-12-19 Thread Ray
Little Nerd Family, that's great.  Back on Topic:  I'm also in the midst of trying to care for a Sunny Island setup we inherited a few years ago.  Tump's info is invaluable and also explains why my adopted step system couldn't keep its AGMs alive for more than 4 years. (curtail charge rate at

Re: [RE-wrenches] Remote Alert and Bootstrapping on Sunny Island AC Coupled System-Follow up

2020-12-19 Thread Tump
William, good morning. I live off grid w/ these things please feel free to contact me off list. Without knowing your familiarity w/ the SMASI, I may be repeating things you already know. Anytime the SOC is above 70% your frequency is shifted to reduce array input, (German engineers) so this is

[RE-wrenches] Remote Alert and Bootstrapping on Sunny Island AC Coupled System-Follow up

2020-12-19 Thread William Miller
Wrenches: I found some time to review the .evt and .log files from the primary Sunny Island inverter. Prior to 12/8/20 the system was running normally with a generator run averaging 6 hours about every other day. On 12/8 at 06:00 the system tried to start the generator. There was no

Re: [RE-wrenches] Remote Alert and Bootstrapping on Sunny Island AC Coupled System

2020-12-18 Thread Kevin Pegg
To: will...@millersolar.com; RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Remote Alert and Bootstrapping on Sunny Island AC Coupled System I have long been a supporter & installer of the SMA SI product line, but their support and availability has led me to find other products. Outback Schneider products

Re: [RE-wrenches] Remote Alert and Bootstrapping on Sunny Island AC Coupled System

2020-12-18 Thread Tump
I have long been a supporter & installer of the SMA SI product line, but their support and availability has led me to find other products. Outback Schneider products like Victron with their smart phone interface and their "Virtual remote monitoring” sunsets the SMA product line. Thats not to

[RE-wrenches] Remote Alert and Bootstrapping on Sunny Island AC Coupled System

2020-12-18 Thread William Miller
Friends: Thanks for the many replies. Here is what I have learned, paired with the questions. 1. Is it normal for the display screens on the Sunny Islands to go blank after shutting off due to low battery voltage? *Apparently this is a feature, not a bug--the display is supposed to go

Re: [RE-wrenches] Remote Alert and Bootstrapping on Sunny Island AC Coupled System

2020-12-17 Thread Ray
Broken record here: DC coupled array, even if its just 1 kW.  That failure is classic AC coupled death spiral.  Leak caused the pump to run, pump ran the battery down, Sunny Island shut off, now no gen start or PV. We're trying to fix an orphaned SMA system now, the gen start is particularly

Re: [RE-wrenches] Remote Alert and Bootstrapping on Sunny Island AC Coupled System

2020-12-17 Thread Howie Michaelson
My memory is that you need to disconnect the Sunny Island from all AC and DC voltages for 15-20 minutes before the low voltage lockout releases (I think there is a small LED light on the internal circuit board which turns off). Once that happens, you can reconnect the batteries and even with

Re: [RE-wrenches] Remote Alert and Bootstrapping on Sunny Island AC Coupled System

2020-12-17 Thread Tump
This is totally normal w/ the displays. There IS an emergency charge setting…. You put AC into the AC out essentially AC coupling w/ the genset. Page 222 section 20.10. This works only w/ FLA batteries. What was the issue w/ the generator battery? I install a small AC charger for the generator

Re: [RE-wrenches] Remote Alert and Bootstrapping on Sunny Island AC Coupled System

2020-12-17 Thread August Goers
We had one Sunny Island system go totally dead years ago. The only way to get it running again was to charge the batteries, which we did in groups of two (6 volt batteries each) with a heavy duty 12 VDC automotive charger. It took about a week to charge all the batteries. Jerry, it's good to know

Re: [RE-wrenches] Remote Alert and Bootstrapping on Sunny Island AC Coupled System

2020-12-17 Thread Jerry Shafer
Wrenches This is why AC coupling is not the best solution but you can program the SI to protect low voltage so if this happens you still have headroom to reboot the system, also program the GT inverters not to wait 300 sec to start. I would also suggest having a 48 vdc charger wired directly to

[RE-wrenches] Remote Alert and Bootstrapping on Sunny Island AC Coupled System

2020-12-17 Thread William Miller
Friends: I have a client living off-grid with a Sunny Island system AC coupled to Sunny Boy inverters. They returned from being away to find the system entirely shutdown due to cloudy weather, a dead generator cranking battery and a water leak which ran two booster pumps continuously over a