Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s

2013-08-08 Thread Steve Higgins
-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Dan Fink Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 5:00 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s You can get a decent battery refractometer now for about $80. We got one and it works fine. Check Amazon. The one we got is an Extech. Dan Fink

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s

2013-08-07 Thread Allan Sindelar
Eric, I kept this in my inbox for awhile, and finally had to ask - where did you get this information? I have never heard this recommendation - to charge a taller flooded lead acid battery to a higher voltage just because it's taller. I guess I see the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s

2013-08-07 Thread RE Ellison
I would be more inclined to think it's because of a denser plate material in the larger batteries I know surrettes need longer absorbs and I believe a bit higher of a charging voltage to remain happy And I generally run the Trojan L16s Just a bit higher than normal Bob Ellison On Aug 7,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s

2013-08-07 Thread Eric . Bentsen
12:59 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s Sent by: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org Eric, I kept this in my inbox for awhile, and finally had to ask - where did you get this information? I have never heard this recommendation - to charge a taller flooded lead acid battery

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s

2013-08-07 Thread Bob-O Schultze
...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of RE Ellison Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 2:29 PM To: al...@positiveenergysolar.com; RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s I would be more inclined to think it's because of a denser plate

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s

2013-08-07 Thread William Miller
-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Bob-O Schultze Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 3:36 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s Steve, Good advice but I'm not at all surprised that most folks don't have a hydrometer. Frankly, unless you are willing to spend a bunch

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s

2013-08-07 Thread Dan Fink
maintenance. WM -- *From:* re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Bob-O Schultze *Sent:* Wednesday, August 07, 2013 3:36 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s Steve, Good

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s

2013-07-23 Thread Tom Duffy
...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jay Peltz Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 1:27 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s Hi Tom Where did you get the .42 from? Jay Peltz power Sent from my iPhone On Jul 22, 2013, at 11:04 AM

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s

2013-07-23 Thread Allan Sindelar
-Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jay Peltz Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 1:27 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s Hi Tom Where did you get the .42 from? Jay Peltz power Sent

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s

2013-07-22 Thread Drake
Hi Larry, I will bump up the absorb voltage to 29.6 V. How long do you think the bank should stay in absorb at that rate? The bank now seems healthy, with the bad battery replaced. It does accept charge, without going high prematurely. The max charge rate from the array is around C/10.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s

2013-07-22 Thread Tom Duffy
-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s Hi Larry, I will bump up the absorb voltage to 29.6 V. How long do you think the bank should stay in absorb at that rate? The bank now seems healthy, with the bad battery replaced. It does accept charge, without going high prematurely. The max charge

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s

2013-07-22 Thread Jay Peltz
Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Drake Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 10:04 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s Hi Larry, I will bump up the absorb voltage to 29.6 V. How long do

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s

2013-07-22 Thread Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems
Drake, When you said, The batteries usually reach absorb voltage shortly after the sun hits the array, I wondered if you had more of a problem with that system. Glad to hear it's not that way. Absorb time is an issue I have with the design of most charge controllers: They do not measure

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s

2013-07-22 Thread Drake
Larry and Tom, Thanks for the information. I will boost the voltage and the charge hours for the array. The inverter is good as is. The batteries charge quickly since they are not generally cycled deeply. The cabin is only used for three or four days a week, giving the batteries plenty of

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s

2013-07-19 Thread Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems
Hi Drake, It always concerns me when I hear that a battery bank reaches absorb setting very quickly. It typically means one of two things: very few AH were removed from the bank; the battery bank has sulfated cells due to chronic undercharging. Far too often I find the latter to be true.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s

2013-07-18 Thread Drake
Are they too inefficient for off grid? Drake At 05:53 PM 7/17/2013, you wrote: for standby (bbgt) systems, please consider wet cell lead calcium cells. i have a 23 year old set still going strong. lead antimony will go 12 years... if you are lucky! todd On Wednesday, July 17,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s

2013-07-18 Thread toddcory
inefficient? they are better then lead antimony, but are considered 'shallow cycle', so i never take them down more than 50%. todd On Thursday, July 18, 2013 5:44am, Drake drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org said: Are they too inefficient for off grid? Drake At 05:53 PM

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s

2013-07-18 Thread jay peltz
Hi Todd Where can we find info and pricing? Thanks Jay Peltz power ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s

2013-07-17 Thread Drake
Hi Tom, These are Trojan L-16E batteries, 370 AH. They have a 2 hour absorb cycle at around 29.3 V. There is one series string of 4 batteries in a small, off grid cabin that is used 3 or 4 days a week. The system has 980 Watts of PV with an Outback FM 60 CC and an Outback 3524 VFX

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s

2013-07-17 Thread toddcory
for standby (bbgt) systems, please consider wet cell lead calcium cells. i have a 23 year old set still going strong. lead antimony will go 12 years... if you are lucky! todd On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:06pm, Drake drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org said: snip They have been a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Trojan L-16s

2013-07-16 Thread Tom Duffy
Hi Drake The first thing I would look at is how the batteries are being charged... Can they even be charged by the present equipment? What is the Bulk/Absorb voltage and time? Equally important is the design of the bank... series or series/parallel and if parallel how many strings. Lastly