Re: [RE-wrenches] Surrette L-16 battereis

2015-12-15 Thread Howie Michaelson
While I have no experience with HUP, I do have many years of experience with Rolls/Surrette. They are a robust battery, and in my opinion superior to Trojan and other mid-line flavors. I am not as adamant about staying away from L16s as Allan, although I'd whole-heartedly agree with keeping to

Re: [RE-wrenches] Surrette L-16 battereis

2015-12-15 Thread Allan Sindelar
Drake, Your request is missing specifics so my answer can only be generic. Get away from all L16s. Go to one string of industrial cells. There are numerous well-respected brands. I would put HUPs at about the top. www.hupsolarone.com. Spend some time on this website and

[RE-wrenches] Schletter

2015-12-15 Thread Christopher Warfel
Has anyone had success using Schletter FS racking system? I am having a hard time talking to their people, and getting answers to some information to price the project. Thank you, Chris -- Christopher Warfel, President ENTECH Engineering, Inc. PO Box 871, Block Island, RI 02807 401-466-8978

Re: [RE-wrenches] Schletter

2015-12-15 Thread Gary Bassett
We are also experiencing the same frustration with communications to Schletter. We have used the FS system on many installation. I would be glad to offer help if I can. Please contact me off-line. Gary Bassett Engineering Manager Hudson Solar 13 Hook Road Rhinebeck, NY T: (866) 452-7652 x113

Re: [RE-wrenches] Surrette L-16 battereis

2015-12-15 Thread Allan Sindelar
I should add that my response was not intended to implicitly denigrate Surrette. They are good batteries in general. While I have experienced some failures, they have come through with good support when needed. And they also have Steve Higgins as their technical

Re: [RE-wrenches] Surrette L-16 battereis

2015-12-15 Thread Dan Fink
While I also advocate single strings and minimizing parallel strings when off the grid, single strings have one big problem, especially in more remote areas and especially with 6 volt batteries - 1-4 weeks downtime of the whole AC side of the system while waiting for a replacement battery and

[RE-wrenches] Surrette L-16 battereis

2015-12-15 Thread Drake
Hello Wrenches, Even after my clients have learned to maintain their batteries properly, the Trojan L-16 batteries continue to crater, one cell at a time. One client is considering spending $12,000 on a nickel - iron battery bank he found on the web. This seems like a ridiculously large

Re: [RE-wrenches] Schletter

2015-12-15 Thread Kevin Eigel
Hi Chris: I have used the Schetter FS ground mount system on about 15 residential jobs and its great. Easy to install, strong simple design and it looks very good. It is faster and cheaper if you buy a kit for 12 solar modules and size your system in multiples of 12. If you don't do that, they

Re: [RE-wrenches] Surrette L-16 battereis

2015-12-15 Thread tom
Dan, That problem of no AC at remote sites while waiting for replacement batteries is why I always recommend at least two strings paralleled through a buss bar rather than across terminals. That way if one battery or cell fails in one series string you can very easily remove the string from

Re: [RE-wrenches] Module recommendation for a specific off grid situation

2015-12-15 Thread Jay
Hi Allan Backwoods has 190 watt 72 cell for good pricing. They are roughly the same physical size as the 165's they have. Good luck Jay Peltz power Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 14, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Allan Sindelar wrote: > > Todd, thanks, but I rejected them.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Surrette L-16 battereis

2015-12-15 Thread Jerry Shafer
I have used the nickel iron and have hsd great results. If your customer is looking long term it might be an option. They do work better for 48 then 12 due to voltages of the batteries Jerry On Dec 15, 2015 7:26 AM, "Drake" wrote: > Hello Wrenches, > > Even

Re: [RE-wrenches] Surrette L-16 batteries

2015-12-15 Thread Kevin Pegg
We have been using L16's made by East Penn / Deka for many years, 100's of them installed every year, and have yet to have a cell failure attributed to manufacturing. Sure there has been occasional melted terminals or dry battery due to customer neglect. What I most like about this brand is

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback customer service???

2015-12-15 Thread Starlight Solar Power Systems
I received a replacement FET board from Outback that I ordered for an out of warranty inverter. They sent me a used/refurbished board dated 2003. I was expecting a new part. Is this normal for Outback? Thank you, Larry Crutcher Starlight Solar Power Systems

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback customer service???

2015-12-15 Thread Daniel Tittmann
Larry- This is normal and don't expect it to work for long. I have had board replacement fail out of the box and many others within months of replacement. We as a company have left outback unless we have to use them for some reason. As an aside I made a pilgrimage to Washington last fall to meet

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback customer service???

2015-12-15 Thread Ray Walters
I think many manufacturers use Refurb parts for repair/ warranty. I had a cell phone replaced under warranty and the "new" one was not new at all. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 12/15/2015 7:24

Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback customer service???

2015-12-15 Thread Jerry Shafer
How much was it, l dont think Outback is not required new parts for OOW repairs. l have always had to return the replaced part. Im sure it has been tested as if it was new, right? Jerry On Dec 15, 2015 1:02 PM, "Starlight Solar Power Systems" < la...@starlightsolar.com> wrote: > I received a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Surrette L-16 battereis

2015-12-15 Thread jay
I agree with Tom here about 2 strings. And I have been told more than a few times in the last 22 years, from battery folks that there is no substitute for lead, in terms of capacity or longevity. Here is a comparison I worked up for a job just the other day and I’ll let you figure out which

[RE-wrenches] Outback customer service???

2015-12-15 Thread jay
HI Larry, As far as I know, OB only sells refurbished boards ( for out of warranty stuff), which come with a short warranty You can contact Tom Duffy, he sells new OB boards with come with full warranty. Its a running joke between Daniel and myself. I’ve had nothing but problems with magnum,(