Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium Batteries - Li-ion battery warning

2019-05-03 Thread Starlight Solar Power Systems
Hello Howie, You should be aware that Discover Li-ion battery does not have adequate protection to prevent damage if charged below freezing. The data sheet (see attachment) shows that you can charge the battery down to -4°F and adds a text warning not to charge below 32°F. "Care should be

Re: [RE-wrenches] large(ish) AC coupled battery backup

2019-05-03 Thread Kienan Maxfield
Dave, No problem. I don't know much about Sonnen, but what I do know is that not all GT inverters do the same impedance test. Outback Power did a bunch of testing and they found one inverter larger than 6 kW that would be able to tell that it could impact the voltage coming from the Radian,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium batteries

2019-05-03 Thread MiJo Nels
I love IronE's temp tolerances. and as far as LiPO4 goes AES is certainly neck and neck with the VERY best of LFP. Their BMS is very robust and well designed (And they're made in Canada) Joe Nelson Project Manager C-46/C-10 Sustainable Energy Group Inc., A California Corporation CSL# 868816

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium batteries

2019-05-03 Thread Jerry Shafer
Just my 2 cents, look at Blue ion from Blue Planet Energy, l have installed new and also switched over from other batteries, been very happy with performance On Fri, May 3, 2019, 2:30 PM Jason Andrade wrote: > > Howie, > I’ve used a few different brands and am currently using the Discover AES,

[RE-wrenches] Lithium batteries

2019-05-03 Thread Jason Andrade
Howie, I’ve used a few different brands and am currently using the Discover AES, I have a quad stack of the coupled to an dual stack of XW inverters and they are working great, As for another post comment that these companies are looking to be bought out, Discover is long time battery

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium Batteries

2019-05-03 Thread Howie Michaelson
Chris, Thanks for the reminder. I've stayed out of the Lithium option until now, largely because of just that, but now that I'm delving in, that is a good reminder. I swore off bleeding edge products years ago, but I guess I'm running the risk of bleeding again... Howie On Fri, May 3, 2019 at

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium Batteries

2019-05-03 Thread Howie Michaelson
Thanks Dave. Do you need an add-on to get the interface from the AES to the Conext gateway? Have you used Iron Edison's lithium offering? Is there a comprehensible reason for the significant price differential between the 2? Do you know where the IronEdison are manufactured? Howie On Fri, May

Re: [RE-wrenches] large(ish) AC coupled battery backup

2019-05-03 Thread Dave Tedeyan
Kienan, Thanks for the info here. That is really interesting about the 6kw limitation. Outback clearly states that limit, but Sonnen has managed to surpass that with their programming of the Radian. The PV part of the system is already existing, so this will need to be AC coupled entirely. I may

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium Batteries

2019-05-03 Thread Chris Mason
I'd be very cautious about getting too cosy with any of these battery companies, it seems their only aim is to get bought. Sonnen was acquired by Shell Oil, Pika by Generac. I'm a generac dealer so I am exploring what their intentions are. I doubt Shell will be gung-ho to continue to support

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium Batteries

2019-05-03 Thread penobscotsolar
Hi Howie, Have you looked at Fortress Power batteries? We're about to install some and they look like a very decent battery. Google will get you the basic info to start. Daryl Penobscot Solar Design > Hi Folks, > About to spec my first Lithium battery backup job. The client is not a >

[RE-wrenches] Lithium Batteries

2019-05-03 Thread Howie Michaelson
Hi Folks, About to spec my first Lithium battery backup job. The client is not a heavy user, but wants things done right more than being totally cost effective. We put in 14kW of net metered solar using SolarEdge and now he wants the backup component. This was significantly oversized for his use,

Re: [RE-wrenches] large(ish) AC coupled battery backup

2019-05-03 Thread Dave Tedeyan
Thanks Darryl, Yea, it used to be two separate 200A services. At some point, someone decided to turn one of those panels into a sub and run it all of a single service. Regarding paralleling Radians, I know that the max solar input when AC coupled is only 6kw for an 8kw inverter. When they are

Re: [RE-wrenches] large(ish) AC coupled battery backup

2019-05-03 Thread Darryl Thayer
the 2 each 200 Amp panels is to overcome the 42 circuit limit in one panel. must be a big house. This sounds like a whole house backup. you will need a transfer switch much like a whole house generator switch unless your customer needs TOU or some other grid service. For the AC coupled

[RE-wrenches] large(ish) AC coupled battery backup

2019-05-03 Thread Dave Tedeyan
Hi All, Does anyone have a good recommendation for an AC coupled energy storage solution for someone who has a 27.6kw array with two SE11400A-US inverters? The output of one of those inverters is more than a Sonnen or Radian can handle (which is what I am most familiar with). I am not sure yet