Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter On/Off Switch use Outback FX

2023-08-03 Thread Glenn Burt via RE-wrenches
berlin via RE-wrenches Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2023 12:37 PM To: RE-wrenches Cc: drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter On/Off Switch use Outback FX Do you have a source for voltage sensing coils? I only know about using the Morningstar relay driver. Tha

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter On/Off Switch use Outback FX

2023-07-30 Thread Drake Chamberlin via RE-wrenches
Do you have a source for voltage sensing coils? I only know about using the Morningstar relay driver. Thank you, Drake _Drake Chamberlin_ _Athens Electric LLC_ _Ohio Electrical Contractor's License 44810_ _CO Master Electrician's License 4526_ _NABCEP Certified PV Installation

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter On/Off Switch use Outback FX

2023-07-22 Thread Darryl Thayer via RE-wrenches
How about a Morningstar relay driver? I have not done this exact thing before.but similar things. On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 4:05 PM jay via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > HI All, > > I wanted to revisit this thread for one reason. > > If you turn off the inverter at the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter On/Off Switch use Outback FX

2023-07-21 Thread Maxfield Solar via RE-wrenches
See this image to see what we mean... I hope this makes sense. Thanks, Kienan Green-Go Solar Wholesale Distribution LLC maxfieldso...@hotmail.com (801) 631-5584(Cell) www.distribution.solar On Jul 21, 2023 at 4:07 PM -0600, Kienan Maxfield via RE-wrenches , wrote: > I was just about to

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter On/Off Switch use Outback FX

2023-07-21 Thread Kienan Maxfield via RE-wrenches
I was just about to suggest the same thing Mac suggested. Any 120 V relay would work. Just wire it in parallel with the auxiliary relay that is shutting the inverter off. When the AC input is energized, the relay closes, and your inverter turns on. I like using a relay that has a base. I trust

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter On/Off Switch use Outback FX

2023-07-21 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
I’ve never used one before. Can you recommend one?On Jul 21, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Mac Lewis via RE-wrenches wrote:To avoid power relay, how about adding a voltage sensing coil on the AC input and have an NC contactor that opens on voltage in series with the inverter shutdown circuit.  This should

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter On/Off Switch use Outback FX

2023-07-21 Thread Mac Lewis via RE-wrenches
To avoid power relay, how about adding a voltage sensing coil on the AC input and have an NC contactor that opens on voltage in series with the inverter shutdown circuit. This should interrupt the inverter shutdown any time the generator is on. On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 6:00 PM Ray Walters via

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter On/Off Switch use Outback FX

2023-07-20 Thread Ray Walters via RE-wrenches
I've done the AC relay idea as well, on Schneider that didn't have the easy off switching like the Outbacks.  The problems are: 1) Much bigger relay, much higher current on the control side as well.  It required a relay for the relay. 2) If there's a malfunction, you are messing with the main

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter On/Off Switch use Outback FX

2023-07-20 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches
Hi RayThis house won’t have an AGS, manual start only. And your comments exactly, having to wait until the next day when hopefully there is enough sun to charge the battery is iffy. Or they could do the inverter bypass switch. Again I’m back to why is it a worse idea to install a relay on the AC? 

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter On/Off Switch use Outback FX

2023-07-20 Thread Ray Walters via RE-wrenches
The aux off is only if the generator doesn't start.  You need to set the gen start voltage higher. Aux off is last ditch shut down, set for 44v for lead acid, or 47 to 49v, depending on the battery and inverter.   Hopefully DC coupled PV will raise the voltage enough to turn the inverters back

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter On/Off Switch use Outback FX

2023-07-20 Thread jay via RE-wrenches
HI All, I wanted to revisit this thread for one reason. If you turn off the inverter at the remote on/off with the AUX relay, then starting the generator won’t have any impact as the inverter is off. So someone will have to go and reset the AUX relay. Vs If you do a relay on the AC output,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter On/Off Switch use Outback FX

2023-07-13 Thread Starlight via RE-wrenches
They did not anticipate the use with Lithium battery chemistry which is mostly discharged at 12.7V, and that happens to be the fully charged resting voltage of lead batteries. Seems as though by now manufacturers should have increased the LBCO voltage range in the software. Larry Crutcher

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter On/Off Switch use Outback FX

2023-07-13 Thread Ray Walters via RE-wrenches
Hi Mac; I've used the aux control on charge controllers to turn on/off the FX inverters, just as you planned.  Works fine, and solves the LBCO programming issue. Now, if someone from the manufacturing side could PLEASE explain why they limited the LBCO on all these inverter models.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter On/Off Switch use Outback FX

2023-07-11 Thread Kent via RE-wrenches
Mac, I think you've got an elegant solution to the problem. All you need is an inexpensive relay and to program the Aux output for loadshed. I believe shutting down the inverter with the remote on/off contacts is actually less stressful on the inverter than opening a relay or contactor on

[RE-wrenches] Inverter On/Off Switch use Outback FX

2023-07-11 Thread Mac Lewis via RE-wrenches
Hello Wrenches, I'm trying to solve an issue with an older Outback FX system. It's a quad stack of Outback 3648 FX inverters and he has a couple of Fortress eVault and an unreliable generator. The LBCO setting can't go high enough to cut out before the eVaults cut out so he occasionally will