Hi John,
Do you know what firmware version was causing your initial over-voltage
situation?
Kevin
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Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 8:09 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Cc: John Blittersdorf
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium batteries
Ray
Ray,
With this batch of posts about lithium batteriem and several mentions of
XW inverters and overcharging, I just have to chime in with my experience
with one I installed and one installed by someone else. Both were charging
48V L16 wet cell batteries. In both cases with charge settings
Hi Richard;
Off list, what was your outcome from Simpliphi? Did they make any deal
with you? What did you put in as replacements?
Thanks,
Ray Walters
Remote Solar
On 2/8/2024 7:35 AM, Richard Nicol via RE-wrenches wrote:
Hi Ray
We had a complete failure of 6 Simpliphi batteries with the
The auxiliary charger was only used after Simpliphi recommended it.
This was also a requirement before they would even issue an RMA: charge
each battery individually for 2 hours with a separate DC power supply or
battery charger. That's 8 hours total on site by the way, and another
problem I
About 4 years ago I wrote about my failure of Simplify in service 3 years.
after much delay, I took each unit to shop and charged each one on bench
power supply, all returned to full function and are still working today off
grid system. I agree with the comments they are tricky, MorningStar knows
Ray,
Oddly enough we're getting ready to replace our 22 year old 48v bank of
Rolls Surrette batteries at our offgrid Design and Training Center in
Western NY with a set of Lithium batteries.The reason for the jump to
Lithium is because of the numerous request by clients for them over the
past 5
Hi Ray
We had a complete failure of 6 Simpliphi batteries with the same symptoms
you found.
Another installer had replaced the inverter with an XW and appeared to
leave the charger programing on factory defaults along with temp
compensation so when the generator was called for it would rise to
I've been having the same thoughts about Li and off-grid systems. It used
to be that I would install a system and then hear back from the clients a
decade later when it was time for new batteries. Now, almost every other
week I'm dealing with Li related issues (that I feel obligated to pay for).
Hi RayI’m going more and more with same oem for systems with lithium. Specifically so I don’t have an issue with finger pointing between OEMS. But that sure sucks. JayOn Feb 7, 2024, at 10:17 PM, Ray Walters via RE-wrenches wrote:
We just had a complete failure of a set of
For what it's worth, B has a stellar reputation around here for dealer
warranty support on their generators. I know that doesn't always translate
when companies acquire others (a case in point is the disastrous ADT/SunPro
mess). How battery manufacturers will handle LiPO warranty claims is still
We just had a complete failure of a set of four Simpliphi 3.8 KWh
batteries, 48 v. It has completely changed my thoughts on Li+ for off
grid. This set lasted 5 years, which is about equal to bottom of the
barrel Golf Cart batteries. The RMA/ Warranty process has not been
smooth. It took
One of the things that I’m just now learning is about BMS
failure/warranty/fix/replacement.
Some can be field installed some need to go back to the OEM.
I guess its something else we need to check on.
Jay
> On Feb 7, 2024, at 9:06 AM, Bradley Bassett via RE-wrenches
> wrote:
>
>
Jerry, have you used an XW with the Blue Ion? If so, is there a reason to
use a Conext Battery Monitor with the system? In this system, which is
grid-tied, there will also be a backup generator (he likes redundancy).
What settings would trigger the AGS if there was no Battery Monitor in the
The owner of Blue Ion runs XW's or at least I saw pix of him in front of
one.
They have their own monitor program but it is not compatible with
Outback or Schneider comms. That lets them out for my use.
Just finished
the circuit validation testing of XW pro here. It really was just to make
Howie,
I have now installed three Blue Ion systems (2 x 16 kwh and one 48kwh)
and am very pleased with them. It's a complete package with clear
instructions, all parts labeled, good technical support, and presents
very well to the client when installed. BMS info is accessed online
through
Jerry, thanks for this recommendation. I've been looking at the Blue Ion,
but for some reason they off my top tier choices. Have you integrated them
with XW battery backup systems? How is the BMS info access? The one thing
that I really like about the AES batteries is their integration with the
Thanks Jason. Great videos! Any thoughts on why AES is so much more than
some others that seem pretty solid as well?
Howie
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 5:30 PM Jason Andrade <
ja...@westcoastsustainables.com> wrote:
>
> Howie,
> I’ve used a few different brands and am currently using the Discover
Hello Howie,
You should be aware that Discover Li-ion battery does not have adequate
protection to prevent damage if charged below freezing. The data sheet (see
attachment) shows that you can charge the battery down to -4°F and adds a text
warning not to charge below 32°F.
"Care should be
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Jerry Shafer
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2019 2:32:37 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] L
Just my 2 cents, look at Blue ion from Blue Planet Energy, l have installed
new and also switched over from other batteries, been very happy with
performance
On Fri, May 3, 2019, 2:30 PM Jason Andrade
wrote:
>
> Howie,
> I’ve used a few different brands and am currently using the Discover AES,
Howie,
I’ve used a few different brands and am currently using the Discover AES, I
have a quad stack of the coupled to an dual stack of XW inverters and they are
working great,
As for another post comment that these companies are looking to be bought out,
Discover is long time battery
Chris,
Thanks for the reminder. I've stayed out of the Lithium option until now,
largely because of just that, but now that I'm delving in, that is a good
reminder. I swore off bleeding edge products years ago, but I guess I'm
running the risk of bleeding again...
Howie
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at
Thanks Dave. Do you need an add-on to get the interface from the AES to the
Conext gateway?
Have you used Iron Edison's lithium offering? Is there a comprehensible
reason for the significant price differential between the 2? Do you know
where the IronEdison are manufactured?
Howie
On Fri, May
I'd be very cautious about getting too cosy with any of these battery
companies, it seems their only aim is to get bought. Sonnen was acquired by
Shell Oil, Pika by Generac. I'm a generac dealer so I am exploring what
their intentions are. I doubt Shell will be gung-ho to continue to support
Hi Howie,
Have you looked at Fortress Power batteries? We're about to install
some and they look like a very decent battery. Google will get you the
basic info to start.
Daryl
Penobscot Solar Design
> Hi Folks,
> About to spec my first Lithium battery backup job. The client is not a
>
Hi Folks,
About to spec my first Lithium battery backup job. The client is not a
heavy user, but wants things done right more than being totally cost
effective.
We put in 14kW of net metered solar using SolarEdge and now he wants the
backup component. This was significantly oversized for his use,
The sonnen eco series of products were available before the PW2, and are
available today through distributors.
They also take AC in and out, with batteries and inverter internal in a sleek
enclosure. They are programmable for exporting restrictions.
-Glenn
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Date: May 26, 2015 at 7:05:58 PM PDT
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Hi All,
I've got a call about
: [RE-wrenches] Lithium batteries for Polaris Ranger EV
Jay,
I saw your post on RE-Wrenches, asking about a source for lithium batteries
for the Polaris Ranger EV utility vehicle. I’m friends with a Polaris Ranger
EV owner who recently converted his to lithium. His contact info
Hi All,
I've got a call about lithium batteries for the battery powered polaris EV
ranger.
I've looked but can't find any.
Anybody know of a supplier for this?
Sorry in advance if this is supposed to go to marketing.
jay
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I'd try a set with a few adventurous customers, but the price needs to
be really good for Beta testing. Once you get a couple of years of
proof of concept, and work out the charging details, etc. then your
friend could set the price higher. Its all about amp hours and cycle
life. If he can
to 50.4 VDC.
Kevin
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[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]On Behalf Of jay peltz
Sent: January 24, 2013 7:41 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] lithium batteries
HI All,
Is there a rough voltage range
-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of jay peltz
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:41 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] lithium batteries
HI All,
Is there a rough voltage range ( high/low nominal) for the lithium family of
batteries?
I'm curious if our current range of inverters can
HI All,
Is there a rough voltage range ( high/low nominal) for the lithium family of
batteries?
I'm curious if our current range of inverters can work with these batteries, at
least on the load side, probably not on the charging side.
thanks,
jay
peltz power
Hi Jeremy,
How large a bank is your client looking for?
We have worked with Corvus Energy on some projects but the numbers have never
worked, yet, for off-grid.
Regards,
Jamie
Jeremy Rodriguez- All Solar Inc. allso...@scswifi.net 7/17/2012 12:01
AM
I have a request for Lithium
I have a request for Lithium batteries (ion?). Not sure how to respond. The
application is an off grid, part time mountain home
Any thoughts?
Thank you
Jeremy Ridriguez
All Solar
Colorado
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I agree with Mick there about using lead acid, that's just a few
pounds for a bit of trouble. On the other hand if you're going to
play with Li on solar, you might as well start small in case
something cooks.
Keep us posted, I was wondering when one of us would try Li+.
Ray
In
Hi John. Sounds like a good application for Li. Energy densities max out
around 95 WH per pound. Lead acid is up to 20 WH per pound.
Li batteries are about 3.3 volts per cell, so the pack your client is
looking at may be 4 or 5 cells in series.
It is probably important to buy a commercial pack,
.
Darryl
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Hi there,
I have a customer with a hot air balloon doesn't want
to use
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