Re: [RE-wrenches] Issue with DR1512 and oven

[Kevin Pegg]

I have a copy of the official service and diagnostics manual for DR series. 
It's a 1.5" thick binder full of fold out legal pages, addendums, etc. Not the 
easiest thing to scan. Is there something particular you are looking for?

Kevin

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Of Drake
Sent: September-20-16 8:31 AM
To: RE-wrenches 
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Issue with DR1512 and oven

We are looking for a schematic for the DR series inverter. Does anyone have one 
they could send me?

Thank you,

Drake

Drake Chamberlin
Athens Electric LLC
OH License 44810
CO License 3773
NABCEP Certified Solar PV
740-448-7328
http://athens-electric.com/


At 07:25 PM 9/19/2016, you wrote:

Kristopher,
Ray's advice is sound, and I'll add: that 14 year old inverter is likely to 
last forever, and that's not a reason to keep using it. It's almost certainly 
the crude waveform that's causing the issues.
If range replacement remains the only option, talk with Peerless-Premier 
(www.premierrange.com<http://www.premierrange.com>). As of my last contact with 
them a few years ago, they still make unadvertised models with circuit boards 
that were designed for original Trace mod-square inverters and have no glow 
bars for the oven. Our family home has a decent Pro series (stainless front 
with sealed burners) with electric igniters and no glow bar.
Allan

Allan Sindelar
al...@sindelarsolar.com<mailto:al...@sindelarsolar.com>
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional
New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician
Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc.
505 780-2738 cell


On 9/19/2016 4:46 PM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:

Thanks Ray,

This is a circa 2002 inverter.  I may just tell them to go to a pilot light 
stove model (hate to waste gas, ya know).

Kris

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Ray Walters 
mailto:r...@solarray.com>> wrote:
Sounds like ovens have gotten more complicated over the years.  As soon as I 
read "control board" and modified sine wave, I cringe.  The good old DR 
inverters worked great, I even ran my own shop on one for several years back in 
the 90s.  I for the most part quit selling them though, as even though most 
equipment worked on the mod sine, we started noticing premature failures.  I 
would attribute this to the extra heat generated by all the extra harmonic 
distortion.  Sorry I can't recommend an oven; they probably would be better 
going to something older form Craig's list with no AC connection at all.

R.Ray Walters



CTO, Solarray, Inc



Nabcep Certified PV Installer,



Licensed Master Electrician



Solar Design Engineer



303

505-8760
On 9/19/2016 4:35 PM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:

Hi Wrenches,
I have a client that has blown out 2 control boards on their oven in the last 
few months.  The appliance is a Whirlpool Model WFG515S0EW0 powered by a 
Xantrex DR1512.  Since this is an off-grid home, i recommended that they get an 
LP stove with no oven glow bar and this was the unit that the appliance company 
supplied.
Has anyone seen this before (i am assuming incompatibility of the circuitry 
with the modified sine wave output)?
Can you recommend another model that has been tried and true (preferably 
Whirlpool)?
Thanks tons,
Kris
--
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Legacy Solar, LLC
864 Clam Falls Trail
Frederic, WI 54837
www.legacysolar.com<http://www.legacysolar.com>
715-653-4295
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Issue with DR1512 and oven

[Kristopher Schmid]

Bill,

It's the stove control board that fried.  Sorry if that was unclear.

Kris

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Bill Loesch 
wrote:

> Hi Kris,
>
> Where did you source your DR control boards?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill Loesch
> Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar314 631 1094
>
> On 9/19/2016 5:35 PM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:
>
> Hi Wrenches,
>
> I have a client that has blown out 2 control boards on their oven in the
> last few months.  The appliance is a Whirlpool Model WFG515S0EW0 powered by
> a Xantrex DR1512.  Since this is an off-grid home, i recommended that they
> get an LP stove with no oven glow bar and this was the unit that the
> appliance company supplied.
>
> Has anyone seen this before (i am assuming incompatibility of the
> circuitry with the modified sine wave output)?
>
> Can you recommend another model that has been tried and true (preferably
> Whirlpool)?
>
> Thanks tons,
> Kris
>
> --
> Shine On!
>
> Kris Schmid
> Legacy Solar, LLC
> 864 Clam Falls Trail
> Frederic, WI 54837
> www.legacysolar.com
> 715-653-4295
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Issue with DR1512 and oven

[Bill Loesch]

Hi Kris,

Where did you source your DR control boards?

Thanks,

Bill Loesch
Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar
314 631 1094

On 9/19/2016 5:35 PM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:

Hi Wrenches,

I have a client that has blown out 2 control boards on their oven in 
the last few months.  The appliance is a Whirlpool Model WFG515S0EW0 
powered by a Xantrex DR1512.  Since this is an off-grid home, i 
recommended that they get an LP stove with no oven glow bar and this 
was the unit that the appliance company supplied.


Has anyone seen this before (i am assuming incompatibility of the 
circuitry with the modified sine wave output)?


Can you recommend another model that has been tried and true 
(preferably Whirlpool)?


Thanks tons,
Kris

--
Shine On!

Kris Schmid
Legacy Solar, LLC
864 Clam Falls Trail
Frederic, WI 54837
www.legacysolar.com 
715-653-4295
NABCEP Certified PV Installer
Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician
BSEE


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Issue with DR1512 and oven

[Allan Sindelar]

Drake,
As far as I know these were never made available outside of Trace/Xantrex.
Allan

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On 9/20/2016 9:31 AM, Drake wrote:
We are looking for a schematic for the DR series inverter. Does anyone 
have one they could send me?


Thank you,

Drake

Drake Chamberlin
/Athens Electric LLC
OH License 44810
CO License 3773
NABCEP Certified Solar PV
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/http://athens-electric.com/


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Issue with DR1512 and oven

[Kristopher Schmid]

Thanks all.

I have a Peerless Premier LP stove in my own house, but i am grid tied so i
was not sure how they behave with dirtier waves.  Good to know that they
are so bulletproof.  I am guessing that the appliance shop will not be
happy with going outside of their usual brands, but that seems to be the
direction you are all suggesting.  I will make my strong recommendation and
see how it flies.

Thanks,
Kris

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Chris Daum  wrote:

> Peerless Premier (www.premierrange.com) has offered battery-ignition
> ranges now for about two years -- no AC power required.  They need an
> 8-pack of double A cells, and can also be match-lit if you don't want to
> fool with the batteries.
>
>
> Chris Daum
> Oasis Montana Inc.
> 406-777-4309
> 406-777-0830 fax
> www.oasismontana.com
>
>
> --
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
> Behalf Of *frenergy
> *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2016 9:09 PM
>
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Issue with DR1512 and oven
>
> I just installed a system for some folks that found this range with no
> glow bar.  The oven light and the spark ignition each take 2, 9 volt
> batteries so zero outside electric power source.
>
> http://uniqueoffgrid.com/product/unique-elite-30-off-grid-propane-range/
>
> Those Canadians
>
> Bill
>
> Feather River Solar Electric
> Bill Battagin, Owner
> 4291 Nelson St.
> Taylorsville, CA 95983530.284.7849
> CA Lic 874049www.frenergy.net
>
>  On 9/19/2016 4:43 PM, Brian Teitelbaum wrote:
>
> Solid advice from both Ray and Allan.
>
>
>
> Switching to a sine-wave inverter will solve the controller issue, but not
> the 300W glow bar draining the batteries. Switching to a Peerless-Premier
> would solve that problem, or use an old Wedgewood range like I do. My
> 6-burner/two oven gas Wedgewood from the early 40’s works great, and will
> likely last for centuries, but it does take 4 gorillas to move the damn
> thing. It must weigh 600 lbs, although I’ve never weighed it.
>
>
>
> Brian
>
> AEE Solar
>
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Allan Sindelar
> *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2016 4:26 PM
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Issue with DR1512 and oven
>
>
>
> Kristopher,
> Ray's advice is sound, and I'll add: that 14 year old inverter is likely
> to last forever, and that's not a reason to keep using it. It's almost
> certainly the crude waveform that's causing the issues.
> If range replacement remains the only option, talk with Peerless-Premier (
> www.premierrange.com). As of my last contact with them a few years ago,
> they still make unadvertised models with circuit boards that were designed
> for original Trace mod-square inverters and have no glow bars for the oven.
> Our family home has a decent Pro series (stainless front with sealed
> burners) with electric igniters and no glow bar.
> Allan
>
> *Allan Sindelar*
> *al...@sindelarsolar.com* 
> NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
> NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional
> New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician
> Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc.
> *505 780-2738 <505%20780-2738> cell*
>
>
>
> On 9/19/2016 4:46 PM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:
>
> Thanks Ray,
>
> This is a circa 2002 inverter.  I may just tell them to go to a pilot
> light stove model (hate to waste gas, ya know).
>
> Kris
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Ray Walters <*r...@solarray.com*
> > wrote:
>
> Sounds like ovens have gotten more complicated over the years.  As soon as
> I read "control board" and modified sine wave, I cringe.  The good old DR
> inverters worked great, I even ran my own shop on one for several years
> back in the 90s.  I for the most part quit selling them though, as even
> though most equipment worked on the mod sine, we started noticing premature
> failures.  I would attribute this to the extra heat generated by all the
> extra harmonic distortion.  Sorry I can't recommend an oven; they probably
> would be better going to something older form Craig's list with no AC
> connection at all.
>
> R.Ray Walters
>
> CTO, Solarray, Inc
>
> Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
>
> Licensed Master Electrician
>
> Solar Design Engineer
>
> *303 505-8760* <303%20505-8760>
>
> On 9/19/2016 4:35 PM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:
>
> Hi Wrenches,
>
> I have a client that has blown out 2 control boards on their oven in the
> last few months.  The appliance is a Whirlpool Model 

Re: [RE-wrenches] Issue with DR1512 and oven

[Drake]

We are looking for a schematic for the DR series inverter. Does 
anyone have one they could send me?


Thank you,

Drake

Drake Chamberlin
Athens Electric LLC
OH License 44810
CO License 3773
NABCEP Certified Solar PV
740-448-7328
http://athens-electric.com/


At 07:25 PM 9/19/2016, you wrote:

Kristopher,
Ray's advice is sound, and I'll add: that 14 year old inverter is 
likely to last forever, and that's not a reason to keep using it. 
It's almost certainly the crude waveform that's causing the issues.
If range replacement remains the only option, talk with 
Peerless-Premier 
(www.premierrange.com). As of my last 
contact with them a few years ago, they still make unadvertised 
models with circuit boards that were designed for original Trace 
mod-square inverters and have no glow bars for the oven. Our family 
home has a decent Pro series (stainless front with sealed burners) 
with electric igniters and no glow bar.

Allan

Allan Sindelar
al...@sindelarsolar.com
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional
New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician
Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc.
505 780-2738 cell


On 9/19/2016 4:46 PM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:

Thanks Ray,

This is a circa 2002 inverter.  I may just tell them to go to a 
pilot light stove model (hate to waste gas, ya know).


Kris

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Ray Walters 
<r...@solarray.com> wrote:
Sounds like ovens have gotten more complicated over the years.  As 
soon as I read "control board" and modified sine wave, I 
cringe.  The good old DR inverters worked great, I even ran my own 
shop on one for several years back in the 90s.  I for the most part 
quit selling them though, as even though most equipment worked on 
the mod sine, we started noticing premature failures.  I would 
attribute this to the extra heat generated by all the extra 
harmonic distortion.  Sorry I can't recommend an oven; they 
probably would be better going to something older form Craig's list 
with no AC connection at all.


R.Ray Walters

CTO, Solarray, Inc

Nabcep Certified PV Installer,

Licensed Master Electrician

Solar Design Engineer

303 505-8760
On 9/19/2016 4:35 PM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:

Hi Wrenches,

I have a client that has blown out 2 control boards on their oven 
in the last few months.  The appliance is a Whirlpool Model 
WFG515S0EW0 powered by a Xantrex DR1512.  Since this is an 
off-grid home, i recommended that they get an LP stove with no 
oven glow bar and this was the unit that the appliance company supplied.


Has anyone seen this before (i am assuming incompatibility of the 
circuitry with the modified sine wave output)?


Can you recommend another model that has been tried and true 
(preferably Whirlpool)?


Thanks tons,
Kris

--
Shine On!

Kris Schmid
Legacy Solar, LLC
864 Clam Falls Trail
Frederic, WI 54837
www.legacysolar.com
715-653-4295
NABCEP Certified PV Installer
Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician
BSEE



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Re: [RE-wrenches] Issue with DR1512 and oven

[Chris Daum]

Peerless Premier (www.premierrange.com) has offered battery-ignition ranges
now for about two years -- no AC power required.  They need an 8-pack of
double A cells, and can also be match-lit if you don't want to fool with the
batteries.
 
Chris Daum
Oasis Montana Inc.
406-777-4309
406-777-0830 fax
www.oasismontana.com 
  


  _  

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On
Behalf Of frenergy
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 9:09 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Issue with DR1512 and oven



I just installed a system for some folks that found this range with no glow
bar.  The oven light and the spark ignition each take 2, 9 volt batteries so
zero outside electric power source.

http://uniqueoffgrid.com/product/unique-elite-30-off-grid-propane-range/

Those Canadians

Bill

Feather River Solar Electric

Bill Battagin, Owner

4291 Nelson St.

Taylorsville, CA 95983

530.284.7849

CA Lic 874049

www.frenergy.net




On 9/19/2016 4:43 PM, Brian Teitelbaum wrote:


Solid advice from both Ray and Allan. 

 

Switching to a sine-wave inverter will solve the controller issue, but not
the 300W glow bar draining the batteries. Switching to a Peerless-Premier
would solve that problem, or use an old Wedgewood range like I do. My
6-burner/two oven gas Wedgewood from the early 40's works great, and will
likely last for centuries, but it does take 4 gorillas to move the damn
thing. It must weigh 600 lbs, although I've never weighed it.

 

Brian

AEE Solar

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On
Behalf Of Allan Sindelar
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 4:26 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Issue with DR1512 and oven

 

Kristopher,
Ray's advice is sound, and I'll add: that 14 year old inverter is likely to
last forever, and that's not a reason to keep using it. It's almost
certainly the crude waveform that's causing the issues.
If range replacement remains the only option, talk with Peerless-Premier
(www.premierrange.com). As of my last contact with them a few years ago,
they still make unadvertised models with circuit boards that were designed
for original Trace mod-square inverters and have no glow bars for the oven.
Our family home has a decent Pro series (stainless front with sealed
burners) with electric igniters and no glow bar. 
Allan

Allan Sindelar
 <mailto:al...@sindelarsolar.com> al...@sindelarsolar.com
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional
New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician
Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc.
505 780-2738 cell



 

On 9/19/2016 4:46 PM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:

Thanks Ray,

This is a circa 2002 inverter.  I may just tell them to go to a pilot light
stove model (hate to waste gas, ya know).

Kris

 

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Ray Walters < <mailto:r...@solarray.com>
r...@solarray.com> wrote:

Sounds like ovens have gotten more complicated over the years.  As soon as I
read "control board" and modified sine wave, I cringe.  The good old DR
inverters worked great, I even ran my own shop on one for several years back
in the 90s.  I for the most part quit selling them though, as even though
most equipment worked on the mod sine, we started noticing premature
failures.  I would attribute this to the extra heat generated by all the
extra harmonic distortion.  Sorry I can't recommend an oven; they probably
would be better going to something older form Craig's list with no AC
connection at all.



R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
  303 505-8760

On 9/19/2016 4:35 PM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:

Hi Wrenches,

I have a client that has blown out 2 control boards on their oven in the
last few months.  The appliance is a Whirlpool Model WFG515S0EW0 powered by
a Xantrex DR1512.  Since this is an off-grid home, i recommended that they
get an LP stove with no oven glow bar and this was the unit that the
appliance company supplied.

Has anyone seen this before (i am assuming incompatibility of the circuitry
with the modified sine wave output)?

Can you recommend another model that has been tried and true (preferably
Whirlpool)? 

Thanks tons,

Kris



-- 

Shine On!

Kris Schmid
Legacy Solar, LLC
864 Clam Falls Trail
Frederic, WI 54837
 <http://www.legacysolar.com> www.legacysolar.com
  715-653-4295
NABCEP Certified PV Installer
Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Issue with DR1512 and oven

[Brian Teitelbaum]

Solid advice from both Ray and Allan.



Switching to a sine-wave inverter will solve the controller issue, but not
the 300W glow bar draining the batteries. Switching to a Peerless-Premier
would solve that problem, or use an old Wedgewood range like I do. My
6-burner/two oven gas Wedgewood from the early 40’s works great, and will
likely last for centuries, but it does take 4 gorillas to move the damn
thing. It must weigh 600 lbs, although I’ve never weighed it.



Brian

AEE Solar



*From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
Behalf Of *Allan Sindelar
*Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2016 4:26 PM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Issue with DR1512 and oven



Kristopher,
Ray's advice is sound, and I'll add: that 14 year old inverter is likely to
last forever, and that's not a reason to keep using it. It's almost
certainly the crude waveform that's causing the issues.
If range replacement remains the only option, talk with Peerless-Premier (
www.premierrange.com). As of my last contact with them a few years ago,
they still make unadvertised models with circuit boards that were designed
for original Trace mod-square inverters and have no glow bars for the oven.
Our family home has a decent Pro series (stainless front with sealed
burners) with electric igniters and no glow bar.
Allan

*Allan Sindelar*
*al...@sindelarsolar.com* 
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional
New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician
Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc.
*505 780-2738 cell*



On 9/19/2016 4:46 PM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:

Thanks Ray,

This is a circa 2002 inverter.  I may just tell them to go to a pilot light
stove model (hate to waste gas, ya know).

Kris



On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Ray Walters <*r...@solarray.com*
> wrote:

Sounds like ovens have gotten more complicated over the years.  As soon as
I read "control board" and modified sine wave, I cringe.  The good old DR
inverters worked great, I even ran my own shop on one for several years
back in the 90s.  I for the most part quit selling them though, as even
though most equipment worked on the mod sine, we started noticing premature
failures.  I would attribute this to the extra heat generated by all the
extra harmonic distortion.  Sorry I can't recommend an oven; they probably
would be better going to something older form Craig's list with no AC
connection at all.

R.Ray Walters

CTO, Solarray, Inc

Nabcep Certified PV Installer,

Licensed Master Electrician

Solar Design Engineer

*303 505-8760* <303%20505-8760>

On 9/19/2016 4:35 PM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:

Hi Wrenches,

I have a client that has blown out 2 control boards on their oven in the
last few months.  The appliance is a Whirlpool Model WFG515S0EW0 powered by
a Xantrex DR1512.  Since this is an off-grid home, i recommended that they
get an LP stove with no oven glow bar and this was the unit that the
appliance company supplied.

Has anyone seen this before (i am assuming incompatibility of the circuitry
with the modified sine wave output)?

Can you recommend another model that has been tried and true (preferably
Whirlpool)?

Thanks tons,

Kris


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Shine On!

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Legacy Solar, LLC
864 Clam Falls Trail
Frederic, WI 54837
*www.legacysolar.com* <http://www.legacysolar.com>
*715-653-4295* <715-653-4295>
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BSEE



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Re: [RE-wrenches] Issue with DR1512 and oven

[Allan Sindelar]

Kristopher,
Ray's advice is sound, and I'll add: that 14 year old inverter is likely 
to last forever, and that's not a reason to keep using it. It's almost 
certainly the crude waveform that's causing the issues.
If range replacement remains the only option, talk with Peerless-Premier 
(www.premierrange.com). As of my last contact with them a few years ago, 
they still make unadvertised models with circuit boards that were 
designed for original Trace mod-square inverters and have no glow bars 
for the oven. Our family home has a decent Pro series (stainless front 
with sealed burners) with electric igniters and no glow bar.

Allan

*Allan Sindelar*
al...@sindelarsolar.com 
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional
New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician
Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc.
*505 780-2738 cell*

**

On 9/19/2016 4:46 PM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:

Thanks Ray,

This is a circa 2002 inverter.  I may just tell them to go to a pilot 
light stove model (hate to waste gas, ya know).


Kris

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Ray Walters > wrote:


Sounds like ovens have gotten more complicated over the years.  As
soon as I read "control board" and modified sine wave, I cringe.
The good old DR inverters worked great, I even ran my own shop on
one for several years back in the 90s.  I for the most part quit
selling them though, as even though most equipment worked on the
mod sine, we started noticing premature failures.  I would
attribute this to the extra heat generated by all the extra
harmonic distortion. Sorry I can't recommend an oven; they
probably would be better going to something older form Craig's
list with no AC connection at all.

R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760 

On 9/19/2016 4:35 PM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:

Hi Wrenches,

I have a client that has blown out 2 control boards on their oven
in the last few months.  The appliance is a Whirlpool Model
WFG515S0EW0 powered by a Xantrex DR1512.  Since this is an
off-grid home, i recommended that they get an LP stove with no
oven glow bar and this was the unit that the appliance company
supplied.

Has anyone seen this before (i am assuming incompatibility of the
circuitry with the modified sine wave output)?

Can you recommend another model that has been tried and true
(preferably Whirlpool)?

Thanks tons,
Kris

-- 
Shine On!


Kris Schmid
Legacy Solar, LLC
864 Clam Falls Trail
Frederic, WI 54837
www.legacysolar.com 
715-653-4295 
NABCEP Certified PV Installer
Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician
BSEE


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Issue with DR1512 and oven

[Kristopher Schmid]

Thanks Ray,

This is a circa 2002 inverter.  I may just tell them to go to a pilot light
stove model (hate to waste gas, ya know).

Kris

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Ray Walters  wrote:

> Sounds like ovens have gotten more complicated over the years.  As soon as
> I read "control board" and modified sine wave, I cringe.  The good old DR
> inverters worked great, I even ran my own shop on one for several years
> back in the 90s.  I for the most part quit selling them though, as even
> though most equipment worked on the mod sine, we started noticing premature
> failures.  I would attribute this to the extra heat generated by all the
> extra harmonic distortion.  Sorry I can't recommend an oven; they probably
> would be better going to something older form Craig's list with no AC
> connection at all.
>
> R.Ray Walters
> CTO, Solarray, Inc
> Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
> Licensed Master Electrician
> Solar Design Engineer303 505-8760
>
> On 9/19/2016 4:35 PM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:
>
> Hi Wrenches,
>
> I have a client that has blown out 2 control boards on their oven in the
> last few months.  The appliance is a Whirlpool Model WFG515S0EW0 powered by
> a Xantrex DR1512.  Since this is an off-grid home, i recommended that they
> get an LP stove with no oven glow bar and this was the unit that the
> appliance company supplied.
>
> Has anyone seen this before (i am assuming incompatibility of the
> circuitry with the modified sine wave output)?
>
> Can you recommend another model that has been tried and true (preferably
> Whirlpool)?
>
> Thanks tons,
> Kris
>
> --
> Shine On!
>
> Kris Schmid
> Legacy Solar, LLC
> 864 Clam Falls Trail
> Frederic, WI 54837
> www.legacysolar.com
> 715-653-4295
> NABCEP Certified PV Installer
> Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician
> BSEE
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Issue with DR1512 and oven

[Ray Walters]

Sounds like ovens have gotten more complicated over the years.  As soon 
as I read "control board" and modified sine wave, I cringe. The good old 
DR inverters worked great, I even ran my own shop on one for several 
years back in the 90s.  I for the most part quit selling them though, as 
even though most equipment worked on the mod sine, we started noticing 
premature failures.  I would attribute this to the extra heat generated 
by all the extra harmonic distortion.  Sorry I can't recommend an oven; 
they probably would be better going to something older form Craig's list 
with no AC connection at all.


R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760

On 9/19/2016 4:35 PM, Kristopher Schmid wrote:

Hi Wrenches,

I have a client that has blown out 2 control boards on their oven in 
the last few months.  The appliance is a Whirlpool Model WFG515S0EW0 
powered by a Xantrex DR1512.  Since this is an off-grid home, i 
recommended that they get an LP stove with no oven glow bar and this 
was the unit that the appliance company supplied.


Has anyone seen this before (i am assuming incompatibility of the 
circuitry with the modified sine wave output)?


Can you recommend another model that has been tried and true 
(preferably Whirlpool)?


Thanks tons,
Kris

--
Shine On!

Kris Schmid
Legacy Solar, LLC
864 Clam Falls Trail
Frederic, WI 54837
www.legacysolar.com 
715-653-4295
NABCEP Certified PV Installer
Licensed Wisconsin Master Electrician
BSEE


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