Re: [regext] EPP Transport Service Discovery

2024-03-20 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: George Michaelson > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 11:00 PM > To: Hollenbeck, Scott > Cc: regext@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] EPP Transport Service Discovery > > Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click >

Re: [regext] EPP Transport Service Discovery

2024-03-20 Thread George Michaelson
I very much tend to believing that SVCB is the way to do this. Not to emebed, not to invent, to use the existing mechanisms to find transports with flagging to rank server side preferences. This also serves to bootstrap TLS and so is a "two birds with one stone" solution. * its how other

Re: [regext] EPP Transport Service Discovery

2024-03-20 Thread Tobias Sattler
+1 During my 14-year tenure on the registrar side, where we implemented almost every gTLD and many ccTLDs, I always felt well-informed by registries if they intended to make substantial changes. While this feature seems nice, I don’t know if the effort is worth it. Best, Tobias > On 20. Mar

Re: [regext] EPP Transport Service Discovery

2024-03-20 Thread Gould, James
+1 We’ve had experience of adding and removing transports many years ago and it was done with adequate notice to the registrars. -- JG [cid87442*image001.png@01D960C5.C631DA40] James Gould Fellow Engineer jgo...@verisign.com 703-948-3271 12061 Bluemont Way Reston, VA 20190

Re: [regext] EPP Transport Service Discovery

2024-03-20 Thread Jody Kolker
Just adding my 2 cents. It seems that designing and implementing a discovery system seems to be a bit complicated and will take some time to design and complete. Every registry will be contacting registrars when a new system is enabled, or at least should be. I don’t see a huge benefit of

[regext] Shepherd's wirteup about rir-search completed

2024-03-20 Thread Mario Loffredo
Hi Chairs, this is to inform you that I just completed the shepherd's writeup of rir-search. Best, Mario -- Dott. Mario Loffredo Senior Technologist Technological Unit “Digital Innovation” Institute of Informatics and Telematics (IIT) National Research Council (CNR) via G. Moruzzi 1,

Re: [regext] EPP Transport Service Discovery

2024-03-20 Thread Steve Crocker
Scott, et al, This seems to me an excellent idea, but let me suggest adding a bit more content. And before doing so, let me acknowledge that a registry will likely inform its registrars well in advance of any changes and will likely provide a test system for registers to use in advance of a

Re: [regext] EPP Transport Service Discovery

2024-03-20 Thread Jim Reid
> On 20 Mar 2024, at 08:09, Bill Woodcock wrote: > > “Telling people about it” doesn’t get them to upgrade. Neither would publishing some discovery info (presumably in the DNS). > If we want to improve things, we actually need to improve things, not just > talk about it. I agree. What I

Re: [regext] EPP Transport Service Discovery

2024-03-20 Thread Bill Woodcock
> On Mar 20, 2024, at 08:50, Jim Reid wrote: >> On 20 Mar 2024, at 07:04, Bill Woodcock wrote: >> Yes, because the registry can improve over time, and the registrars can >> update their software over time. If we don’t give updated client-side >> software a mechanism to discover that the

Re: [regext] EPP Transport Service Discovery

2024-03-20 Thread kowalik
Hi Scott, On 20.03.24 05:56, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: -Original Message- From: Francisco Obispo Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 12:32 AM To: Hollenbeck, Scott Cc:regext@ietf.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] EPP Transport Service Discovery This is a neat idea, Is there a reasoning

Re: [regext] EPP Transport Service Discovery

2024-03-20 Thread Jim Reid
> On 20 Mar 2024, at 07:04, Bill Woodcock wrote: > > Yes, because the registry can improve over time, and the registrars can > update their software over time. If we don’t give updated client-side > software a mechanism to discover that the server now supports improved > transport, we get

Re: [regext] EPP Transport Service Discovery

2024-03-20 Thread Kal Feher
-Original Message- From: Francisco Obispo Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2024 12:32 AM To: Hollenbeck, Scott Cc: regext@ietf.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] EPP Transport Service Discovery Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open

Re: [regext] EPP Transport Service Discovery

2024-03-20 Thread Bill Woodcock
The. Certificate problem can be dealt with as elsewhere: switch to DANE and stop accepting CA certs. -Bill > On Mar 20, 2024, at 5:33 AM, Francisco Obispo wrote: > > This is a neat idea, > > Is there a reasoning or use case for such need? > > One of the challenges

Re: [regext] EPP Transport Service Discovery

2024-03-20 Thread Bill Woodcock
Yes, because the registry can improve over time, and the registrars can update their software over time. If we don’t give updated client-side software a mechanism to discover that the server now supports improved transport, we get gridlock. -Bill > On Mar 20, 2024, at