Re: [regext] WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03

2023-02-27 Thread James Galvin
Many thanks to those who responded to the last call for this document. There have been quite a few constructive comments and the Chairs do not believe we have consensus to move forward. Fortunately the authors agree and they have also agreed to take some time to review the comments and the docu

Re: [regext] WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03

2023-02-20 Thread Heather Flanagan
Hello all, The feedback received on this thread has been incredibly useful. Given the level of work left to do, I’d like to request we withdraw it from WGLC status. Thanks! Heather Flanagan Principal, Spherical Cow Consulting h...@sphericalcowconsulting.com sphericalcowconsulting.com the-writer

Re: [regext] WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03

2023-02-17 Thread Tim Wicinski
gt; > > *From: *Tim Wicinski > *Date: *Friday, February 17, 2023 at 11:01 AM > *To: *James Gould > *Cc: *"Hollenbeck, Scott" , "st...@shinkuro.com" > , "regext@ietf.org" > *Subject: *[EXTERNAL] Re: Re: [regext] WGLC: > draft-ietf-regext-

Re: [regext] WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03

2023-02-17 Thread Gould, James
;Hollenbeck, Scott" , "st...@shinkuro.com" , "regext@ietf.org" Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: [regext] WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03 On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 10:28 AM Gould, James mailto:jgo...@verisign.com>> wrote: Tim, The terms could change, but I hav

Re: [regext] WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03

2023-02-17 Thread Tim Wicinski
> *From: *Tim Wicinski > *Date: *Friday, February 17, 2023 at 10:10 AM > *To: *James Gould > *Cc: *"Hollenbeck, Scott" , "st...@shinkuro.com" > , "regext@ietf.org" > *Subject: *[EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] WGLC: > draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03 >

Re: [regext] WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03

2023-02-17 Thread Gould, James
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Re: [regext] WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03

2023-02-17 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
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Re: [regext] WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03

2023-02-17 Thread Tim Wicinski
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Re: [regext] WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03

2023-02-17 Thread Tim Wicinski
Scott is right on the IANA registry bit. RFC7489 (DMARC) was not just Informational but Independent Stream (ISE) and it created a registry just fine. Informational does make more sense in this case. tim On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 5:24 PM Andrew Newton wrote: > I've reviewed this draft and have

Re: [regext] WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03

2023-02-17 Thread Gould, James
nbeck, Scott" Date: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 12:49 PM To: "st...@shinkuro.com" , James Gould Cc: "regext@ietf.org" Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03 Steve, if the draft gives IANA instructions to create a registry, that’l

Re: [regext] WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03

2023-02-16 Thread Andrew Newton
I've reviewed this draft and have a couple of questions and comments. And with some of my questions, I may be reading this too literally, so please forgive me in advance. Section 2 paragraph 5 says: "Note that the legal definition of any of the terms used in the data dictionary, such as 'personall

Re: [regext] WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03

2023-02-14 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
point for text to be added to the draft. Scott From: Steve Crocker Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2023 11:11 AM To: Gould, James ; Hollenbeck, Scott Cc: regext@ietf.org; Steve Crocker Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03 Caution: This email originated

Re: [regext] WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03

2023-02-14 Thread Steve Crocker
James, Scott, et al, The motivation for this proposal was to have a registry of available data elements for everyone who is managing an Internet based registration system to draw upon. An informational RFC would be a way to communicate the idea of having such a registry but would not actually cau

Re: [regext] WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03

2023-02-14 Thread Gould, James
I agree with Scott's feedback on the track being changed to Informational and removal of the IANA Registry. Why doesn't this draft match the approach taken io RFC 8499 for DNS Terminology? The Registration System terms can certainly have overlap with the DNS terms in RFC 8499, where the RFC

Re: [regext] WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03

2023-02-14 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
I'm aware of two other RFCs that also define terms like this: 4949 (security) and 8499 (DNS). The intended status for this draft is "Standards Track". At best, this should be Informational in the same way that 4949 is informational. Neither of these RFCs creates a registry. As such, I don't see

Re: [regext] WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03

2023-02-13 Thread Jasdip Singh
Hello Heather, Steve, Overall, this doc should prove useful to anyone embarking on creating or evolving a registration protocol. While reviewing the latest draft, had some observations/feedback (sorry for the delay): Unless this doc, as-is, is intended for just the DNRs (Domain Name Registries

Re: [regext] WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03

2023-02-13 Thread James Galvin
This is a reminder to please indicate your support or no objection to the publication of this document. The Document Shepherd should take note that the WGLC for this document was noted on the DNSOP mailing list. Thanks to Scott Hollenbeck for doing this and making it relevant for them to consi

Re: [regext] WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03

2023-02-09 Thread Tim Wicinski
(forgot to cc regext) Big fan of this document and feel it is good. I have only one small nit: See also "domain name" in [RFC8499]. Should this not be "Domain name" (per 8499) ? I have a deeper question on using "ext" for extension - it feels like an abbreviation which doesn't feel useful. B

[regext] WGLC: draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary-03

2023-02-06 Thread James Galvin
The document editors have indicated that the following document is ready for submission to the IESG to be considered for publication as a Proposed Standard: Registration Data Dictionary https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-regext-datadictionary/03/ Please indicate your support or no objec