On Monday 19 May 2014 22:28:27 Scott Kitterman wrote:
Speaking as a packager for a distro that's in group #2, I don't see this as
any change from your initial proposal.
That's correct...
You're proposal moves us into group #1
... which is what I stated I think.
Chosen extracts:
Going
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Kevin Ottens er...@kde.org wrote:
On Monday 19 May 2014 22:28:27 Scott Kitterman wrote:
Speaking as a packager for a distro that's in group #2, I don't see this as
any change from your initial proposal.
That's correct...
You're proposal moves us into group
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 19:07:41 Ben Cooksley wrote:
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Kevin Ottens er...@kde.org wrote:
snip
Now, I think we'll have to agree to disagree on something. You believe
there's some rule written in stone somewhere which will make the
everyone will pile up backports
Meanwhile, I notice that the release date of May 4th for B2 wasn't attained,
or did it just go without a announcement and dot story?
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On Tuesday 20 May 2014 10:20:35 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
Meanwhile, I notice that the release date of May 4th for B2 wasn't attained,
or did it just go without a announcement and dot story?
It was published, but indeed no announcement and dot story.
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On May 20, 2014 4:19:26 AM EDT, Jos Poortvliet jospoortvl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 19:07:41 Ben Cooksley wrote:
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Kevin Ottens er...@kde.org wrote:
snip
Now, I think we'll have to agree to disagree on something. You
believe
there's some rule
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 07:19:59 Scott Kitterman wrote:
On May 20, 2014 4:19:26 AM EDT, Jos Poortvliet jospoortvl...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 19:07:41 Ben Cooksley wrote:
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Kevin Ottens er...@kde.org wrote:
snip
Now, I think we'll have to
On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 13:28:29 Martin Gräßlin wrote:
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 07:19:59 Scott Kitterman wrote:
On May 20, 2014 4:19:26 AM EDT, Jos Poortvliet jospoortvl...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 19:07:41 Ben Cooksley wrote:
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Kevin Ottens
On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 08:04:59 Kevin Ottens wrote:
On Monday 19 May 2014 22:28:27 Scott Kitterman wrote:
Speaking as a packager for a distro that's in group #2, I don't see this
as
any change from your initial proposal.
That's correct...
You're proposal moves us into group #1
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 07:19:59 Scott Kitterman wrote:
On May 20, 2014 4:19:26 AM EDT, Jos Poortvliet jospoortvl...@gmail.com
So after 5.0, 5.0.1 is released with minor features and bugfixes (but
no mandatory changes in dependencies at all); which continues until
January, when 5.1 comes out,
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 07:55:26 Scott Kitterman wrote:
I'm open to discussing change, but so far the change is You're on your own,
get over it. Not a lot to discuss in that.
It's not at all the way it's been thought, it is unfortunate if it is
perceived that way. Looks like I can't frame and
On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 14:07:02 Kevin Ottens wrote:
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 07:55:26 Scott Kitterman wrote:
I'm open to discussing change, but so far the change is You're on your
own, get over it. Not a lot to discuss in that.
It's not at all the way it's been thought, it is unfortunate
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 08:00:43 Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 08:04:59 Kevin Ottens wrote:
On Monday 19 May 2014 22:28:27 Scott Kitterman wrote:
Speaking as a packager for a distro that's in group #2, I don't see this
as
any change from your initial proposal.
Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2014, 14.09:18 schrieb Scott Kitterman:
Morning Scott
On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 14:07:02 Kevin Ottens wrote:
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 07:55:26 Scott Kitterman wrote:
I'm open to discussing change, but so far the change is You're on your
own, get over it. Not a lot to
On May 20, 2014 8:27:39 AM EDT, Kevin Ottens er...@kde.org wrote:
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 08:00:43 Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 08:04:59 Kevin Ottens wrote:
On Monday 19 May 2014 22:28:27 Scott Kitterman wrote:
Speaking as a packager for a distro that's in group #2, I don't
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 08:52:39 Scott Kitterman wrote:
That's how it comes across to me. There was a lot of negative feedback the
first time and the reaction to that comes across to me as a patronizing
repetition of the initial proposal wrapped up in IMO unfounded assurances
that it would be
On May 20, 2014 8:52:30 AM EDT, Mario Fux kde...@unormal.org wrote:
Am Dienstag, 20. Mai 2014, 14.09:18 schrieb Scott Kitterman:
Morning Scott
On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 14:07:02 Kevin Ottens wrote:
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 07:55:26 Scott Kitterman wrote:
I'm open to discussing change, but so
hi ...
it would be interesting to see a true cost/benefit analysis using real data of
the benefits of the monthly bug fix releases.
in support of what Kevin is going after here:
the monthly bugfix releases sound awesome on paper, but they don't always work.
i've seen significant regressions
Hi,
2014-05-20 13:19 GMT+02:00 Scott Kitterman:
We've pushed nearly every point release to end users throughout the KDE4
cycle. I use them myself. Your characterization of the KDE4 point releases
doesn't match my experience.
here is just one recent example, where someone pushed a commit to
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 11:30:54 Kevin Ottens wrote:
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 10:20:35 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
Meanwhile, I notice that the release date of May 4th for B2 wasn't
attained, or did it just go without a announcement and dot story?
It was published, but indeed no announcement and
On May 20, 2014 10:38:54 AM EDT, Aaron J. Seigo ase...@kde.org wrote:
hi ...
it would be interesting to see a true cost/benefit analysis using real
data of
the benefits of the monthly bug fix releases.
It would. I've no idea how to do it. My impression is providing them is
popular with our
On May 20, 2014 10:41:04 AM EDT, Frank Reininghaus frank7...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Hi,
2014-05-20 13:19 GMT+02:00 Scott Kitterman:
We've pushed nearly every point release to end users throughout the
KDE4 cycle. I use them myself. Your characterization of the KDE4 point
releases doesn't match my
On Tue, May 20, 2014 16:38:54 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
in support of what Kevin is going after here:
the monthly bugfix releases sound awesome on paper, but they don't always
work. i've seen significant regressions in recent releases due to patches
being backported with poor judgment, resulting
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 10:58:01 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 11:30:54 Kevin Ottens wrote:
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 10:20:35 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
Meanwhile, I notice that the release date of May 4th for B2 wasn't
attained, or did it just go without a announcement and dot
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