Akademy Release Team BoF summary

2014-09-12 Thread Albert Astals Cid
We discussed KF5 and Plasma 5 schedules briefly, seems they are working fine, nothing to change atm. Applications 14.12 will be basically on the same schedule as 4.12 + 1 year You can see it in https://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Applications/14.12_Release_Schedule It was said that kdepim

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-16 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
Le dimanche 15 juillet 2012 16:39:54 Michael Jansen a écrit : Let us postpone this until i have the script ready. I think the discussion is needed but currently a bit difficult because it is all really theoritcal now. It is all very theoritical because people took a simple and pragmatic

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-16 Thread info
Am 2012-07-16 10:14, schrieb Aurélien Gâteau: Le dimanche 15 juillet 2012 16:39:54 Michael Jansen a écrit : Let us postpone this until i have the script ready. I think the discussion is needed but currently a bit difficult because it is all really theoritcal now. It is all very theoritical

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-16 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dilluns, 16 de juliol de 2012, a les 11:47:40, i...@michael-jansen.biz va escriure: Am 2012-07-16 10:14, schrieb Aurélien Gâteau: Le dimanche 15 juillet 2012 16:39:54 Michael Jansen a écrit : Let us postpone this until i have the script ready. I think the discussion is needed but

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-16 Thread Michael Jansen
I do not like maskerading pre releases as stable version. Version numbers have a clear semantic meaning. And KDE currently breaks that. We break what? Our numbers have a clear sematic meaning, i can look at a version number and tell you what it is. Agreed it's not trivial, but saying

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-16 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dilluns, 16 de juliol de 2012, a les 22:37:24, Michael Jansen va escriure: I do not like maskerading pre releases as stable version. Version numbers have a clear semantic meaning. And KDE currently breaks that. We break what? Our numbers have a clear sematic meaning, i can look at

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-16 Thread Michael Jansen
On Monday, July 16, 2012 10:42:11 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: El Dilluns, 16 de juliol de 2012, a les 22:37:24, Michael Jansen va escriure: I do not like maskerading pre releases as stable version. Version numbers have a clear semantic meaning. And KDE currently breaks that.

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-16 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dilluns, 16 de juliol de 2012, a les 23:37:12, Michael Jansen va escriure: On Monday, July 16, 2012 10:42:11 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: El Dilluns, 16 de juliol de 2012, a les 22:37:24, Michael Jansen va escriure: I do not like maskerading pre releases as stable version. Version

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-16 Thread Rex Dieter
On 07/16/2012 03:37 PM, Michael Jansen wrote: 4.5.70 is a stable release for anyone with experience in release numbers imo, that's a false assumption. anyone making that mistake deserves what they get. -- rex ___ release-team mailing list

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-16 Thread Rex Dieter
On 07/16/2012 05:41 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: On 07/16/2012 03:37 PM, Michael Jansen wrote: 4.5.70 is a stable release for anyone with experience in release numbers imo, that's a false assumption. anyone making that mistake deserves what they get. Hit enter too fast... I'm speaking mostly in

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-16 Thread Michael Pyne
On Monday, July 16, 2012 22:37:24 Michael Jansen wrote: I do not like maskerading pre releases as stable version. Version numbers have a clear semantic meaning. And KDE currently breaks that. We break what? Our numbers have a clear sematic meaning, i can look at a version number

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-15 Thread David Faure
On Sunday 15 July 2012 01:00:28 Rolf Eike Beer wrote: Am Samstag 14 Juli 2012, 23:47:29 schrieb David Faure: On Saturday 14 July 2012 12:29:57 Michael Jansen wrote: Why not marking an alpha, beta and rc as what it is and every other project out there already does? Why masking is as a

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-15 Thread Michael Jansen
On Sunday, July 15, 2012 01:00:28 AM Rolf Eike Beer wrote: Am Samstag 14 Juli 2012, 23:47:29 schrieb David Faure: On Saturday 14 July 2012 12:29:57 Michael Jansen wrote: Why not marking an alpha, beta and rc as what it is and every other project out there already does? Why masking is

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-15 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15-07-2012 11:57, Michael Jansen wrote: On Sunday, July 15, 2012 01:00:28 AM Rolf Eike Beer wrote: Am Samstag 14 Juli 2012, 23:47:29 schrieb David Faure: On Saturday 14 July 2012 12:29:57 Michael Jansen wrote: Why not marking an alpha, beta and

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2012-07-15 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15-07-2012 14:06, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: On 15-07-2012 11:57, Michael Jansen wrote: I provided specific numbers before to make sure we were all talking about the same - from the above I see we are not. When you start working on

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-15 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Diumenge, 15 de juliol de 2012, a les 14:06:32, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto va escriure: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15-07-2012 11:57, Michael Jansen wrote: On Sunday, July 15, 2012 01:00:28 AM Rolf Eike Beer wrote: Am Samstag 14 Juli 2012, 23:47:29 schrieb David

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-15 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Diumenge, 15 de juliol de 2012, a les 16:25:23, Albert Astals Cid va escriure: El Diumenge, 15 de juliol de 2012, a les 14:06:32, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto va escriure: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15-07-2012 11:57, Michael Jansen wrote: On Sunday, July 15,

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-15 Thread Michael Jansen
On Sunday, July 15, 2012 02:10:52 PM Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15-07-2012 14:06, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: On 15-07-2012 11:57, Michael Jansen wrote: I provided specific numbers before to make sure we were all talking

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-15 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2012-07-15, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org wrote: So, can you please use - and not ~. The - character has a special meaning on versions for us. The ~ character can cause issues for us, as we use it when specifying dependencies on other packages as a fuzzy version

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-15 Thread Heinz Wiesinger
On Sunday 15 July 2012 14:56:17 Sune Vuorela wrote: On 2012-07-15, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org wrote: So, can you please use - and not ~. The - character has a special meaning on versions for us. The ~ character can cause issues for us, as we use it when specifying

Re: Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-14 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 13 July 2012 14:31:35 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: To address this we proposed the following numbering scheme: 4.N.7{1,2,3} = N+1 alpha 1, 2, 3 4.N.8{1,2,3} = N+1 beta 1, 2, 3 4.N.9{1,2,3} = N+1 rc 1, 2, 3 With this scheme, 4.10 alpha 1 would be 4.9.71, 4.10 beta 2 would be 4.9.82 I

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-14 Thread Michael Jansen
On Friday, July 13, 2012 02:31:35 PM Aurélien Gâteau wrote: Le jeudi 12 juillet 2012 20:43:12 Albert Astals Cid a écrit : So here comes the summary of the Release Team BoF, the attached picture is all we wrote during the BoF itself so all written here is me trying to remember what we said,

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2012-07-14 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14-07-2012 10:29, Michael Jansen wrote: On Friday, July 13, 2012 02:31:35 PM Aurélien Gâteau wrote: Le jeudi 12 juillet 2012 20:43:12 Albert Astals Cid a écrit : So here comes the summary of the Release Team BoF, the attached picture is all we

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-14 Thread Michael Jansen
On Saturday, July 14, 2012 12:07:31 PM Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 14-07-2012 10:29, Michael Jansen wrote: On Friday, July 13, 2012 02:31:35 PM Aurélien Gâteau wrote: Le jeudi 12 juillet 2012 20:43:12 Albert Astals Cid a écrit : So

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2012-07-13 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 13 July 2012 12:37:19 Torgny Nyblom wrote: On 13.07.2012 08:14, Martin Gräßlin wrote: On Thursday 12 July 2012 23:23:39 Albert Astals Cid wrote: El Dijous, 12 de juliol de 2012, a les 17:06:12, Allen Winter va escriure: On Thursday, July 12, 2012 08:43:12 PM Albert Astals Cid

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, July 13, 2012 07:44:38 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: El Divendres, 13 de juliol de 2012, a les 14:31:35, Aurélien Gâteau va escriure: Le jeudi 12 juillet 2012 20:43:12 Albert Astals Cid a écrit : So here comes the summary of the Release Team BoF, the attached picture is all

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-13 Thread David Faure
On Friday 13 July 2012 13:54:23 Scott Kitterman wrote: On Friday, July 13, 2012 07:44:38 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: El Divendres, 13 de juliol de 2012, a les 14:31:35, Aurélien Gâteau va escriure: Le jeudi 12 juillet 2012 20:43:12 Albert Astals Cid a écrit : So here comes the

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-13 Thread Torgny Nyblom
On Friday 13 July 2012 19.44.38 Albert Astals Cid wrote: El Divendres, 13 de juliol de 2012, a les 14:31:35, Aurélien Gâteau va escriure: Le jeudi 12 juillet 2012 20:43:12 Albert Astals Cid a écrit : So here comes the summary of the Release Team BoF, the attached picture is all we wrote

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-12 Thread Richard Moore
One area this is missing is my own role as the release team list moderator. Dirk can also do this, but I stepped in when he was finding it hard to have the time and I doubt that has changed. At the moment I think I'm generally keeping things flowing, but at high intensity times like releases the

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-12 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Thu, 12 Jul 2012, Richard Moore wrote: One area this is missing is my own role as the release team list moderator. Dirk can also do this, but I stepped in when he was finding it hard to have the time and I doubt that has changed. At the moment I think I'm generally keeping things flowing,

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-12 Thread Allen Winter
On Thursday, July 12, 2012 08:43:12 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: == Note 2 == There is a suggestion that every feature commit should have an associated bug number so it can be better tracked. Someone suggests trying with frameworks when its more ready I wonder if we could make special Big

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-12 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dijous, 12 de juliol de 2012, a les 17:06:12, Allen Winter va escriure: On Thursday, July 12, 2012 08:43:12 PM Albert Astals Cid wrote: == Note 2 == There is a suggestion that every feature commit should have an associated bug number so it can be better tracked. Someone suggests trying

Re: Release Team BoF Summary

2012-07-12 Thread Richard Moore
I've now had 3 volunteers. Thanks to Sune, Boud and Albert we now have this one sorted. :-) Cheers Rich. On 12 July 2012 22:01, Richard Moore r...@kde.org wrote: One area this is missing is my own role as the release team list moderator. Dirk can also do this, but I stepped in when he was