Re: NY Religious Corporations Law

2009-03-12 Thread Will Linden
> > In a message dated 03/11/09 15:55:44 Central Daylight Time, > smkrie...@verizon.net writes: >Marc and Marci - If a congregation registers under the Not for Profit > Corporation law , does that thereby allow ecclesiastical decisions to be > subject to approval by lay governance or review

Re: Connecticut bill

2009-03-12 Thread Douglas Laycock
Fair enough. I did not take offense. I haven't seen the full page ad. Quoting hamilto...@aol.com: > For the record I was not asking about money. I was just struck by > the bishops full page newspaper ad and wondered what else they might > have done in response to a clearly unconstl law..

Re: Connecticut bill

2009-03-12 Thread hamilton02
For the record I was not asking about money. I was just struck by the bishops full page newspaper ad and wondered what else they might have done in response to a clearly unconstl law.. No offense at all intended. Marci Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "

Re: Connecticut bill

2009-03-12 Thread hamilton02
Thanks, Doug. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Douglas Laycock Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:51:09 To: Subject: Connecticut bill ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscri

Re: Connecticut bill

2009-03-12 Thread Marc Stern
The american jewish congress also filed a statement opposing the bill. Unfortunately we were not paid for our efforts either_and we could use the money Marc stern - Original Message - From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Thu Mar 12 14:51:09 2009

Connecticut bill

2009-03-12 Thread Douglas Laycock
The bishops have their own lawyers. They did not commission the law professor's letter, and no one but the signers had any input into its content. Marci, even you agree that this bill was "plainly unconstitutional," so it did not take a conspiracy of bishops to get me to say so. If the rea

Re: NY Religious Corporations Law

2009-03-12 Thread Michael R. Masinter
The more interesting question is why anyone would have proposed such a patently unconstitutional law. For an apparently well sourced explanation debunking the claim, already made, that the proposed legislation was either retribution for the Church's stand on Prop 8, or part of a larger cul

Re: NY Religious Corporations Law

2009-03-12 Thread hamilton02
I would like to ask a point of information on the law profs letter to Conn legis. I am wondering if it was formally or informally commissioned by the bishops. Marci Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: "Marc Stern" Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:21:28 To:

Re: NY Religious Corporations Law

2009-03-12 Thread Marc Stern
Generally the not for profit corporation leaves so much room to create a corporate form amenable to one's needs that this should not be a problem Marc stern - Original Message - From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Sent: Thu Mar 12 11:55:3

Re: NY Religious Corporations Law

2009-03-12 Thread Vance R. Koven
Having statutes with apparently mandatory organizational provisions directed at religious organizations is problematic for the reasons Doug and the other signatories of the Connecticut letter mention. There are subtler but none the less troubling issues if a state says that a religious organization

Re: NY Religious Corporations Law

2009-03-12 Thread SAMUEL M. KRIEGER
I recognize that by black letter law, a church is exempt. However for a church to secure an actual letter of recognition of exemption from the IRS , I have always believed there was a requirement to submit a Certificate of Incorporation (and By Laws), Trust agreement , Constitution or similar

RE: NY Religious Corporations Law

2009-03-12 Thread Friedman, Howard M.
Probably the earliest development of the corporate form in Roman law and English law was the "corporation sole" that permitted property to pass from one bishop to the next when the bishop died. This avoided the inheritance problems that would be present if title were held in the personal name of

Re: NY Religious Corporations Law

2009-03-12 Thread Lawyer2974
Why would being an unincorporated association have any effect on tax status of a church? In a message dated 03/11/09 15:55:44 Central Daylight Time, smkrie...@verizon.net writes: Marc and Marci - If a congregation registers under the Not for Profit Corporation law , does that thereby allow e

Law.com - 9th Circuit Considers Christian Student Group's Challenge to Law School's No-Bias Policy

2009-03-12 Thread Joel Sogol
http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202428988644 ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/religionlaw Please note that mes