RE: Question about the Kentucky County Clerk controversy

2015-09-02 Thread Volokh, Eugene
From: Volokh, Eugene Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 9:59 PM To: 'Paul Finkelman'; 'Law & Religion issues for Law Academics' Subject: RE: Question about the Kentucky County Clerk controversy 1. As I mentioned in my initial post, she should lose the federal law

Substantial burden and requirements imposed on people who choose to go into certain businesses

2015-08-16 Thread Volokh, Eugene
exercise? I think not. Not even close. On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu wrote: I appreciate Marty’s argument, but I’m not sure it quite works. The burden of giving up your business (if you want to avoid violating your

RE: Colorado Cakeshop decision

2015-08-14 Thread Volokh, Eugene
: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edumailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 10:06 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: Colorado Cakeshop decision Sandy: Why

RE: Colorado Cakeshop decision

2015-08-14 Thread Volokh, Eugene
National Constitution Center Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 518-439-7296 (w) 518-605-0296 (c) paul.finkel...@yahoo.commailto:paul.finkel...@yahoo.com www.paulfinkelman.comhttp://www.paulfinkelman.com/ From: Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu To: Law

RE: Colorado Cakeshop decision

2015-08-14 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Sandy: Why exactly should we all agree that anyone covered by common carrier law could not refuse to provide service to an abortion center - or a KKK delegation or what have you? After all, we don't agree that everyone covered by drug laws couldn't get a religious exemption, or

RE: Colorado Cakeshop decision

2015-08-14 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I appreciate Marty’s argument, but I’m not sure it quite works. The burden of giving up your business (if you want to avoid violating your religious beliefs) strikes me as quite substantial, just as is the burden of giving up your unemployment compensation (if you want to avoid

RE: Colorado Cakeshop decision

2015-08-14 Thread Volokh, Eugene
...@gmail.commailto:tzn...@gmail.com wrote: The various pharmaceutical companies refusing to sell certain drugs to death penalty states come to mind. -Kevin Chen On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu wrote: Sure, why not? Say a grape grower

RE: Colorado Cakeshop decision

2015-08-13 Thread Volokh, Eugene
of cupcake-eligible customers and include, in addition to payment and appropriate demeanor, adherence to the baker's views of sexual propriety? Sandy Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu wrote: I should add

RE: Colorado Cakeshop decision

2015-08-13 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I should add that it also concludes that the Colorado Constitution’s religious freedom guarantee follows the Smith model rather than the Sherbert/Yoder model, something that was less clear before. Eugene From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu

RE: Final Regs on matters including Contraceptive (or per some claimants abortifacient) Mandate

2015-07-10 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Well, maybe no sale to you, but I don’t see how that should persuade others. I’m not sure that the claimants should prevail here, but any argument that is based on the objection that a religious claim is “metaphysical” doesn’t strike me as persuasive. The Torah

FW: Final Regs on matters including Contraceptive (or per some claimants abortifacient) Mandate

2015-07-10 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Sorry – left out a “don’t” below (added in bold): Well, maybe no sale to you, but I don’t see how that should persuade others. I’m not sure that the claimants should prevail here, but any argument that is based on the objection that a religious claim is

Business speech supporting gay rights vs. opposing gay rights

2015-07-07 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I wonder if David could elaborate on what sorts of viewpoint-based restrictions the government can impose on business speech on its own property. As I understand it, the argument is that a business would be free to speak out in favor of gay rights, but not against gay rights -

RE: Damages based on a person's speaking out in defense of his tortious action

2015-07-07 Thread Volokh, Eugene
...@lists.ucla.edumailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu on behalf of Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu Reply-To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edumailto:religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 at 10:56 AM To: Law Religion issues

RE: Baker in Oregon told not to advocate against public accommodation law

2015-07-03 Thread Volokh, Eugene
If your client had anti-same-sex-marriage materials posted in his store, would you be worried that he might be sued for creating a “hostile public accommodations environment” based on sexual orientation? See, e.g., the opening pages of

RE: Abercrombie Fitch

2015-06-03 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Indeed. In RFRA, RLUIPA, and Title VII, Congress deliberately created regimes that mandate religious exemptions from some generally applicable rules. The Court is applying those regimes. That doesn't suggest, I think, that the Court will revisit its judgment that the

RE: 8th Cir. upholds exclusion of religious schools from playground safety funds

2015-06-02 Thread Volokh, Eugene
. Alan Brownstein From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edumailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edumailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu on behalf of Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu Sent: Tuesday

8th Cir. upholds exclusion of religious schools from playground safety funds

2015-06-02 Thread Volokh, Eugene
in Locke v. Davey: there'd be something very weird, to say the least, about going from long-prohibited to required in one fell swoop. Doesn't mean they can't or shouldn't do so; but it is understandable that they'd be anxious about it. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Volokh, Eugene vol

RE: 8th Cir. upholds exclusion of religious schools from playground safety funds

2015-05-31 Thread Volokh, Eugene
to religious organizations, even when they use the money to advance their religious objectives. On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 7:34 PM, Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu wrote: From Trinity Lutheran Church v. Pauley (8th Cir. May 29) (2-to-1 vote), http://media.ca8.uscourts.gov

RE: 8th Cir. upholds exclusion of religious schools from playground safety funds

2015-05-31 Thread Volokh, Eugene
is present: It's direct funding, not other forms of aid. And it's a very selective grant program, not a generally available entitlement. On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu wrote: I agree that there’s little clear in much

RE: 8th Cir. upholds exclusion of religious schools from playground safety funds

2015-05-31 Thread Volokh, Eugene
of Volokh, Eugene [vol...@law.ucla.edu] Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 10:04 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: 8th Cir. upholds exclusion of religious schools from playground safety funds I never quite understood this argument: Because some religious

8th Cir. upholds exclusion of religious schools from playground safety funds

2015-05-31 Thread Volokh, Eugene
From Trinity Lutheran Church v. Pauley (8th Cir. May 29) (2-to-1 vote), http://media.ca8.uscourts.gov/opndir/15/05/141382P.pdf: DNR [Department of Natural Resources] offers Playground Scrap Tire Surface Material Grants, a solid waste management program. The grants provide DNR funds to

RE: 8th Cir. upholds exclusion of religious schools from playground safety funds

2015-05-31 Thread Volokh, Eugene
diminish the rhetorical force somewhat. From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] on behalf of Volokh, Eugene [vol...@law.ucla.edu] Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 9:44 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: 8th Cir

RE: 8th Cir. upholds exclusion of religious schools from playground safety funds

2015-05-31 Thread Volokh, Eugene
their religious objectives. On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 7:34 PM, Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu wrote: From *Trinity Lutheran Church v. Pauley* (8th Cir. May 29) (2-to-1 vote), http://media.ca8.uscourts.gov/opndir/15/05/141382P.pdf: DNR

RE: Religious organizations, tax-exempt status and same-sex marriage

2015-04-30 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Marty: I thought it was established that some colleges forbid sex by students outside of marriage. I assume that this isn’t a judgment about the civil law of adultery, but rather because they view such sex as deliberate sin. If so, why wouldn’t they “extend such rules to

RE: Religious organizations, tax-exempt status and same-sex marriage

2015-04-29 Thread Volokh, Eugene
It sure is a way to whip up fear among people with traditional beliefs. But fear may often be perfectly logical, and a sound stimulus to political action. The gay rights movement has been trying hard to stigmatize sexual orientation discrimination, and hostility to

RE: Eugene's Blog Post on Liberals and Exemption Rights

2015-04-01 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Sandy: I appreciate your point, but should it be relevant that Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 actually covered a comparatively narrow set of places of public accommodation, and (as best I can tell) didn't apply to retail establishments or service providers such as

RE: Jim Oleske's new review of book by Robert George

2015-02-17 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I do think Smith is right, but jurisdiction-by-jurisdiction RFRAs (i.e., the model we now have in many states and at the federal level after City of Boerne) are sound, too, for reasons I discussed in my “Common-Law Model” article. I don’t know what Robert George thinks.

RE: The racist prostitute hypothetical

2015-02-16 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I think the answer is yes, just like I think the choice of whether to write / photograph / paint / sing something should come within the freedom from compelled speech recognized in Barnette, Wooley, and other cases. But some people, as I understand it, take the view that once one does

RE: The racist prostitute hypothetical

2015-02-15 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I don’t think we have to postulate this, or focus on highly out-of-the-mainstream religious groups. As I understand it, many a devout Jew will approve, on religious grounds, of a wedding between an irreligious ethnic Jew like me and another Jew, without any extra work that I

Wedding photographers and freelance writers

2015-02-15 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Alan: What do you thank about freelance writers? Say that someone generally takes freelance gigs to write a wide range of press releases, technical manuals, and pretty much anything else that comes in the door. Along comes the Church of Scientology, asking the person to write

RE: The racist prostitute hypothetical

2015-02-15 Thread Volokh, Eugene
The question isn't so much of whether the behavior is emotionally intimate, but whether it is sufficiently physically (or intellectually) intimate or personal that a person ought to have a right to choose her partners for such behavior. There are prostitutes legally working in Nevada,

RE: Wedding photographers and freelance writers

2015-02-15 Thread Volokh, Eugene
, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu wrote: Alan: What do you thank about freelance writers? Say that someone generally takes freelance gigs to write a wide range of press releases, technical manuals, and pretty much anything else

Can someone be legally obligated to have sex with people she's unwilling to have sex with?

2015-02-14 Thread Volokh, Eugene
. If it is just business (and that is not what a clergy person thinks they are doing when they marry someone), then it ought to be subject to anti- discrimination law. From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] on behalf of Volokh

RE: Can someone be legally obligated to have sex with people she's unwilling to have sex with?

2015-02-14 Thread Volokh, Eugene
of Volokh, Eugene [vol...@law.ucla.edu] Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 12:19 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Can someone be legally obligated to have sex with people she's unwilling to have sex with? Mark: So do I understand correctly that you think it's OK

RE: The racist prostitute hypothetical

2015-02-14 Thread Volokh, Eugene
www.paulfinkelman.comhttp://www.paulfinkelman.com * From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edumailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] on behalf of Volokh, Eugene [vol

RE: Can someone be legally obligated to have sex with people she's unwilling to have sex with?

2015-02-14 Thread Volokh, Eugene
the answer. Sent from my iPad On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:19 PM, Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu wrote: Mark: So do I understand correctly that you think it's OK for the government to say: As a condition of your being able to earn

RE: Can someone be legally obligated to have sex with people she's unwilling to have sex with?

2015-02-14 Thread Volokh, Eugene
legalized the business of prostitution, subject to regulations, and so treats such places of business like any other (including specifically a gymnasium, health spa, bowling alley, golf course or other place of exercise or recreation.) On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Volokh, Eugene vol

RE: Oklahoma bill would protect clergy who won't perform gay marriages

2015-02-13 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Any thoughts on the Coeur d’Alene, Idaho incident in which the City Attorney suggested that a wedding chapel run by two ministers would have to allow same-sex marriages, given a Coeur d’Alene public accommodations ordinance that banned sexual orientation discrimination? See

RE: Oklahoma bill would protect clergy who won't perform gay marriages

2015-02-13 Thread Volokh, Eugene
in Coeur d'Alene, marry over 35,000 couples like the Hitching Post ministers, but refuse to perform interracial marriages pursuant to their longstanding and sincere religious belief that God intended the races not to inter-marry). - Jim On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Volokh, Eugene vol

The racist prostitute hypothetical

2015-02-13 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I've been thinking about a little thought experiment, and I thought I'd run it past this list to see whether people see it as helpful. Imagine a state in which prostitution is legalized. A prostitute offers her services to the general public (perhaps through a web

RE: Homeschooling, vaccinations, and Yoder

2015-02-02 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I much appreciate Will’s responses; let me offer some in turn. Will writes: (a) When you say you agree that the vaccination analysis might vary by specific vaccine, I assume you mean that the government might have a harder time proving a compelling governmental interest for some

RE: Homeschooling, vaccinations, and Yoder

2015-02-02 Thread Volokh, Eugene
...@lists.ucla.edumailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edumailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 1:00 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Homeschooling, vaccinations, and Yoder I

RE: Homeschooling, vaccinations, and Yoder

2015-02-02 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Very interesting, and thanks very much! The Michigan case does indeed rely on Yoder, in holding that the statutory requirement that the homeschooling parents be certified instructors was unconstitutional, as to parents who had a religious objection to providing certified

RE: Homeschooling, vaccinations, and Yoder

2015-02-02 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Professor of Law University of Virginia Law School 580 Massie Road Charlottesville, VA 22903 434-243-8546 From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edumailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 1:00

Homeschooling, vaccinations, and Yoder

2015-02-01 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I agree that homeschooling is a possible constraint on the effectiveness of schooling-based immunization, though given the burdens of homeschooling, I'm not sure how many people's homeschooling choices are going to be driven primarily by vaccination preferences.

RE: Necessary, and alternatives that are less restrictive of one right, but that burden other interests

2014-12-11 Thread Volokh, Eugene
] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:26 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics (religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu) Subject: Necessary, and alternatives that are less restrictive of one right, but that burden other interests Dear colleagues: I'm writing an article

Offering amicus help on speech / religion cases, in any court, starting late February

2014-12-09 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Dear colleagues: I'm teaching my First Amendment Amicus Brief Clinic again this Spring, and I thought I'd pass along our letter seeking cases, in case any of you are litigating cases in which we can help, or would like to circulate the letter to some friends of colleagues who might want such

Necessary, and alternatives that are less restrictive of one right, but that burden other interests

2014-12-09 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Dear colleagues: I'm writing an article on the concept of necessary, in the sense of least restrictive alternative. I plan to focus on, of all things, the law of self-defense and the duty to retreat, as well as least restrictive means tests in constitutional law / RFRA, and other matters as

AALS 2014 Law and Religion Newsletter

2014-11-25 Thread Volokh, Eugene
From Marc DeGirolami, a link to the AALS 2014 Law and Religion newsletter: http://clrforum.org/2014/11/25/2014-aals-law-religion-newsletter-2/ Eugene ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe,

RE: City subpoenas pastors' sermons in equal rights ordinance case

2014-10-15 Thread Volokh, Eugene
. I hope that helps, Allen Asch -Original Message- From: Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics (religionlaw@lists.ucla.edumailto:religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu) religionlaw@lists.ucla.edumailto:religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent

RE: City subpoenas pastors' sermons in equal rights ordinance case

2014-10-15 Thread Volokh, Eugene
existing law… See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA7r9bVpayQ Allen -Original Message- From: Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edumailto:religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Tue, Oct 14, 2014 11:29

City subpoenas pastors' sermons in equal rights ordinance case

2014-10-14 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Colleagues: Does anyone know the theory on which the subpoenaed information is relevant here? http://www.chron.com/news/politics/houston/article/City-subpoenas-pastors-sermons-in-equal-rights-5822403.php Houston's embattled equal rights ordinance took another legal turn this week when it

Question about the President's executive order on sexual orientation discrimination

2014-07-23 Thread Volokh, Eugene
My apologies if I missed this in past list traffic on the subject, but I just wanted to check my understanding: As I read it, under an existing executive order, http://www.dol.gov/ofccp/regs/statutes/eo11246.htm, federal contractors can't discriminate based on race, color,

RE: Question about the President's executive order on sexual orientation discrimination

2014-07-23 Thread Volokh, Eugene
23, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu wrote: My apologies if I missed this in past list traffic on the subject, but I just wanted to check my understanding: As I read it, under an existing executive order, http://www.dol.gov/ofccp/regs

RE: Question about the President's executive order on sexual orientation discrimination

2014-07-23 Thread Volokh, Eugene
discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu wrote: I agree -- my point was simply that the debate is in part over whether to treat sexual orientation discrimination as akin to race

RE: Discrimination that is both religious discrimination and ethnic discrimination

2014-07-23 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Marty: I appreciate the basis for your doubts as to (A). But if it’s not correct, then I take it that Jewish religious institutions just couldn’t get the benefit of sec. 702 at all, given that -- as best I can tell -- the standard Jewish understanding is precisely that an

RE: Question about the President's executive order on sexual orientation discrimination

2014-07-23 Thread Volokh, Eugene
B. Cruz Professor of Law University of Southern California Gould School of Law Los Angeles, CA 90089-0071 U.S.A. From: Volokh, Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu Reply-To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edumailto:religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu

Practice experience of Justices

2014-07-11 Thread Volokh, Eugene
My understanding is that Anthony Kennedy was a local Sacramento lawyer of some distinction - and not at a large firm - from 1963 to 1975. I suspect this was largely a civil practice, so it might not go to criminal law experience (which, as some pointed out, only Alito and

RE: On a different strand of the seamless web

2014-07-07 Thread Volokh, Eugene
that this statement of yours about Doug is actually true? Eugene From: Paul Finkelman [mailto:paul.finkel...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 1:53 AM To: Volokh, Eugene; Law Religion issues for Law Academics; Douglas Laycock; Scarberry, Mark Subject: Re: On a different

RE: On a different strand of the seamless web

2014-07-07 Thread Volokh, Eugene
...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 9:57 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: On a different strand of the seamless web Sandy: I appreciate your point, and it is certainly a view held by many serious scholars. But my point

RE: On a different strand of the seamless web

2014-07-07 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I don't see how this works. First, the question isn't whether a customer's going to the mall is a religious experience. The question is whether the mall owner's decisions about how to run with the mall may be guided or mandated by religious beliefs. A mall owner might, for

Re: Town of Greece and coercion

2014-07-07 Thread Volokh, Eugene
government? On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu wrote: I do not view standing in respectful silence as participation in a religious ceremony (for much the same reasons Justice Scalia gave in Lee v. Weisman). I view

Community membership and year of our Lord

2014-07-07 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Mark’s post raises a very interesting point, but it also, I think, points to a deeper problem. In our culture, with its history, we have a vast range of religious references. “The year of our Lord” (or “A.D.”) is one. Place names – Corpus Christi, Los Cruces, Sacramento,

RE: On a different strand of the seamless web

2014-07-06 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I’m not a fan of official prayers. But it seems a plausible view of religious liberty that (1) people should have exemptions, when possible, that let them practice their religion, but (2) government institutions should have considerable latitude to include religious speech in

RE: On a different strand of the seamless web

2014-07-06 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I take it that the authors of those briefs saw a law requiring someone to do something that they thought was sinful as different from a practice under which people end up hearing things from the government that they might find offensive or alienating. Eugene

RE: On a different strand of the seamless web

2014-07-06 Thread Volokh, Eugene
for prudence, as against all principle all the time. Sandy Sent from my iPhone On Jul 6, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu wrote: I take it that the authors of those briefs saw a law requiring someone to do something that they thought

Increasingly implausible theories of complicity

2014-07-05 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Aren’t most religious claims “implausible”? It’s pretty implausible to me that God would care whether we mix meat and milk, and in particular that a prohibition on “seething a kid in his mother’s milk” (the relevant text, if I understand correctly) should be read as barring

RE: Increasingly implausible theories of complicity

2014-07-05 Thread Volokh, Eugene
them from opting out in a way that will give the government authority to compel someone else to provide the coverage, or that their religion requires them to provide employer-based health insurance to their employees, well, . . . let's just say I'm skeptical. On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Volokh

The less restrictive means analysis and political feasibility

2014-07-01 Thread Volokh, Eugene
It seems to me that there are likely to be many situations in which a court holds that a law isn’t the “least restrictive means,” but the political coalition backing the law has lost power – whether in the recent past, or just because the law is a very old one – and therefore any less

RE: Hobby Lobby Question

2014-07-01 Thread Volokh, Eugene
The Court also said that there’s a compelling government interest in preventing race discrimination in employment, even though there are literally millions of people who are exempted from Title VII (since they work for employers who have fewer than 15 employees). Is such gross

Question from Prof. Nancy Leong about how atheists are treated under various legal rules

2014-06-30 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Prof. Nancy Leong asked me to forward this query: What is the best work on atheists are treated under the Establishment Clause, state constitutions, and/or Title VII? I have been surprised by how little I've found in law reviews, and wondered whether there is a legal scholar

RE: Divisiveness

2014-06-10 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I think there's much to what Alan says, but I think the relationship between national and local politics is complex. For instance, while choosing U.S. Supreme Court Justices is a matter for national politics, many groups that organize to influence that will also have local

Granting free exercise rights to a corporation ... is what we usually call 'establishment'

2014-06-10 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Could you please elaborate a bit further on the assertion in the last sentence? A corporation, after all, is a private entity, not the government; it’s not obvious, then, that giving it free exercise rights is an “establishment,” at least in any constitutional sense. Indeed,

RE: Divisiveness

2014-06-09 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I appreciate Alan's attempt to cabin the divisiveness concept, but I wonder whether it works. Nothing is beyond the scope of political decision-making -- there is always the possibility of constitutional amendment, and, more importantly, so long as various decisions involve the

RE: Divisiveness

2014-06-09 Thread Volokh, Eugene
, but this problem of inconsistency (and therefore illegitimacy) over time seems particularly severe. On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu wrote: I appreciate Alan's attempt to cabin the divisiveness concept, but I wonder

RE: Hobby Lobby/Ellen Katz

2014-06-08 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I appreciate the general concerns raised in Jon Mallamud's post -- but I just don't see how items 1 to 5 lead to the conclusion in item 6 about Hobby Lobby. Could you elaborate, please, why it would not be wis[e] for Justice Scalia to view RFRA as constitutional as to federal laws, and

RE: FW: Religious Exemption From Vaccination Policy Requires Acceptance of Secular Reasons As Well

2014-06-08 Thread Volokh, Eugene
alike. Sandy Sandy Sent from my iPhone On Jun 7, 2014, at 9:02 PM, Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu wrote: I agree entirely on the bottom line, but let me ask what would happen in the absence of concerns about harm to the sick. Say an employer has

RE: Hobby Lobby/Ellen Katz

2014-06-08 Thread Volokh, Eugene
.] Jon On 2014-06-08 12:24, Volokh, Eugene wrote: I appreciate the general concerns raised in Jon Mallamud's post -- but I just don't see how items 1 to 5 lead to the conclusion in item 6 about Hobby Lobby. Could you elaborate, please, why it would

Divisiveness

2014-06-08 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I agree very much with Tom on this point. In most controversies, both sides are acting in ways that could plausibly be labeled as divisive. Government religious speech may be seen as divisive, because it may alienate members of other religious groups; but prohibitions on such speech,

RE: Divisiveness

2014-06-08 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Whoops, hit enter too early -- please disregard the Of course,. -Original Message- From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw- boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2014 4:55 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics

RE: Hobby Lobby/Ellen Katz

2014-06-07 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Jon Mallamud writes: 4. Hobby Lobby represents to me an important test in how politically motivated the Court is becoming. In Boerne the Court held that in enforcing the fourteenth amendment, the Congress had to stick to the Supreme Court's interpretation of the constitution. In

RE: Religious Exemption From Vaccination Policy Requires Acceptance of Secular Reasons As Well

2014-06-07 Thread Volokh, Eugene
-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 10:50 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics (religionlaw@lists.ucla.edumailto:religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu) Subject: FW: Religious Exemption From Vaccination Policy Requires Acceptance of Secular Reasons As Well

RE: Does UVA have its own Regnerus scandal?

2014-05-25 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I see – “scandal” means “expressing views you disagree with.” Have you actually read the work of Doug Laycock (one of the top Religion Clauses scholars in the country)? Do you have a substantive response to his substantive arguments? Or is your view based on, to borrow a term,

RE: Does UVA have its own Regnerus scandal?

2014-05-25 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Mr. Green: This is an academic discussion list, for substantive arguments of substantive legal questions having to do with the law of government and religion. Please focus on substantive argument, rather than personal attacks, whether on Prof. Horwitz, Prof. Laycock, or me, and

RE: Does UVA have its own Regnerus scandal?

2014-05-25 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Mr. Green: You obviously take a dim view of the value of the list, and thus seem not terribly interested in maintaining the value of the list (at least as those of us who do value the list understand it). There are many forums online in which you can express your views. But

RE: Does UVA have its own Regnerus scandal?

2014-05-25 Thread Volokh, Eugene
, 2014 4:57 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: Does UVA have its own Regnerus scandal? Eugene: I take it you have no problem with Mr. Green's personal attacks on me? ;-) On Sunday, May 25, 2014, Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu wrote

Hadley Arkes' Recasting Religious Freedom

2014-05-12 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I was just reading, and being puzzled by, Hadley Arkes' First Things article, Recasting Religious Freedom, http://gallery.mailchimp.com/87af8f0af298f8ee9016150c3/files/f4e8099e-b859-4316-b018-30b1df49f257.pdf. I hesitate to try to summarize his point, for fear that I didn't fully grasp it;

RE: States prohibiting churches from sanctioning same-sex marriage

2014-05-09 Thread Volokh, Eugene
. Winston Churchill, speech to the House of Commons, 1941 On May 9, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu wrote: I agree entirely, but which particular statutory scheme is under discussion? If it's the North Carolina one, a recent

RE: States prohibiting churches from sanctioning same-sex marriage

2014-05-09 Thread Volokh, Eugene
...@lists.ucla.edumailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Volokh, Eugene Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:11 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: States prohibiting churches from sanctioning same-sex marriage Well, I'd

Re: Fired Buddhist Employee Sues Claiming Failure To Accommodate Religious Beliefs

2014-03-25 Thread Volokh, Eugene
An interesting lawsuit that Howard Friedman blogged about, and that I thought I’d pass along. I assume that in this situation, the employee would win only if there were someone else who could have easily done the task instead of the plaintiff, yes? I would think that, both as

List of religious exemptions actually upheld under Sherbert/Yoder regimes

2014-03-24 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Is there a comprehensive list of court decisions that have upheld religious exemption claims (setting aside those that have been reversed) under Sherbert/Yorder regimes, whether federal or state and constitutional or RFRA, from 1963 to today? Thanks, Eugene

From the list custodian

2014-03-01 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Folks: I think we've been departing in recent days from the politeness and thoughtfulness that has generally made this discussion list especially valuable. Personal attacks are unlikely to persuade anyone -- even bystanders -- and are just likely to poison the well for future

FW from Paul Salamanca: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses

2014-02-26 Thread Volokh, Eugene
From: Salamanca, Paul E Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:28 PM To: 'Law Religion issues for Law Academics' Subject: RE: Subject: Re: Kansas/Arizona statutes protecting for-profit businesses Dear friends, The Supreme Court has interpreted the First Amendment to do much more than protect

(FW from Faisal Kutty)

2014-02-18 Thread Volokh, Eugene
From: Faisal Kutty [mailto:faisal.ku...@valpo.edu] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 4:06 PM ... Dear Colleagues: I write on behalf of the AALS Section on Islamic Law and myself to enlist your assistance in circulating a survey on teaching to the right individual or individuals at your law

RE: courts and lawmaking

2013-12-30 Thread Volokh, Eugene
1. I don’t see where Marci can possibly get the inference that I “would not have overturned the Lochner like of cases.” The main part of my law Common-Law Model for Religious Exemptions articles criticizes the Sherbert/Yoder regime for being in many ways Lochner-like. I think

RE: courts and lawmaking

2013-12-30 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Our criminal law and evidence law was developed by courts. Our tort law, contract law, and property law have been and continue to be developed by courts. Courts are, rightly or wrongly, seen by our legal system as competent enough to make such decisions. There's nothing unconstitutional

Courts and lawmaking

2013-12-28 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Marci A. Hamilton Verkuil Chair in Public Law Benjamin N. Cardozo Law School Yeshiva University @Marci_Hamilton On Dec 17, 2013, at 9:10 PM, Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edumailto:vol...@law.ucla.edu wrote: The heart of Marty’s argument (I focus for now on item 1 below) is, I think

Re: courts and lawmaking

2013-12-28 Thread Volokh, Eugene
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RE: Two kinds of religious exemption arguments

2013-12-19 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I appreciate Alan's point about Moore, which is indeed an exemption from a generally applicable law for family relationships. But note how rare such an exemption is, and how minimal the costs are that it imposes on others. Neither neighbors nor taxpayers, I suspect, suffer appreciably

Two kinds of religious exemption arguments

2013-12-18 Thread Volokh, Eugene
Rick Garnett's and (less directly) Michael Worley's posts highlight, I think, the fact that there are two kinds of religious exemption arguments that are often heard. The first is Rick's argument, at least in this instance, which focuses on what might see as

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