and detect contraband, though as
> the transcript reflects, with different language that i'm not looking at
> right now.
>
> best,
>
> Mark Sabel
>
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On Oct 8, 2014, at 9:08 AM, Douglas Laycock wrote:
> And of course a fair number of questions about how to reconcile deference
> with compelling interest and least restrictive means. That is a genuine
> puzzle.
I’m shocked that anyone could have trouble with this after Kennedy
cleared it al
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chris,
i hope you're well. damn technology
le-32.3-Request.pdf
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Subject: RE: Holt v. Hobbs Oral Argument
For those who don't know what Doug means by "caught them red-handed" (or
what Marc means by "playing fast and loose in this case"), the relevant
material can be found in
2014 10:57 PM
To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics; Marc Stern
Subject: Re: Holt v. Hobbs Oral Argument
What Marc says is clearly true. But even in this case, when we caught
them red handed, I didn't feel like I could say to the Court that they lie
routinely. Judges have either fig
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>I think this case on its facts is likely to be easy for the Court because so
>many other st
how long
> Is too long.
> Marc Stern
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ong.
Marc Stern
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I haven't read all of the background materials, but it se
I haven't read all of the background materials, but it seems to me a little
bizarre to worry about what one could hide in a 1/4, 1/2 or even 3 inch
beard given what one could hide in a typical prison uniform. If uniforms
are searched for contraband, why not beards? Seems like it would be much
eas
e.blogs.com
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The oral argument transcript is up,
http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/13-6827_8758.pdf.
I haven't read it yet, but from the SCOTUS Blog report, it looks like things
went poorly for the state.
http://www.scotusblog.com/2014/10/argument-report-trouble-at-the-lecter
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