Re: God in the Constitution

2005-01-30 Thread Ed Darrell
There is a key difference between penumbral rights and structures the Constitution protects without direct mention, and an official recognition of God. The Constitution has provisions that directly protect rights of privacy, for example, even though the right itself is not named. There is little

Re: Hello

2005-02-13 Thread Ed Darrell
s who plan to be doing business overseas. Thank you for anything you can offer, Ed Darrell Dallas, TexasPaul Diamond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My name is Paul Diamond; I am a British barrister who works in the field of religious rights in the UK/Europe. I am affliliated with a Cambridge College.

Re: 21st Century Zorach

2005-02-16 Thread Ed Darrell
as for the educational achievement of the kids affected. Ed Darrell DallasMarty Lederman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dahlia Lithwick in Slate on current released-time programs in Virginia and elsewhere: http://slate.msn.com/id/2113611/. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit recently upheld a New

Re: 21st Century Zorach

2005-02-18 Thread Ed Darrell
case. Those choices deserve no less respect than the small minority of dissidents who want out. Ed Darrell DallasEd Brayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't there something to be said for accommodation? Here comes big old bully State, grabs parents by the lapels

Re: Ten Commandments

2005-03-02 Thread Ed Darrell
What federal building in Washington has something that would need to be sandblasted off? I spent a decade looking, and didn't find anything. Ed Darrell Dallas (now)[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/1/2005 6:26:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hesitate

Re: Protestants and non-Protestants

2005-03-05 Thread Ed Darrell
And isn't that exactly what deTocqueville said he found? Ed Darrell Dallas"A.E. Brownstein" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marci, of course, is more than capable of speaking for herself. But I would think that the reference to religious "intensity of belief" that thrives in an envi

Re: Rights of clergy regarding same-sex marriage?

2005-03-15 Thread Ed Darrell
solemnizers allows marriage performers to use many different reasons to refuse to perform any particular marriage, even unsavory and against-public-policy reasons. Ed Darrell Dallas Jean Dudley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm of the mind that the recent decision from Judge Robert Kramer in California

Re: Rights of clergy regarding same-sex marriage?

2005-03-15 Thread Ed Darrell
Americans not already separated marriage from the church, in large measure? One bridal website I found said there are about 2.4 million marriages in the U.S. annually. I haven't found a comparison, but I'd bet about 60% are outside any church. Does anyone have a bead on more solid statistics? Ed

RE: Rick Perry and separation of church and state

2005-06-07 Thread Ed Darrell
with condemning the action on private grounds. Perry's actions violate the Four-Square policy of the Rotary Clubs International, for example. I find they violate the Scout Law (Perry is an Eagle Scout). And what appeared to me to be an intentional affront to Jews was extremely poor taste. Ed

Re: Justice O'Connor Says She Will Retire

2005-07-01 Thread Ed Darrell
s at Judge McConnell in order to improve his chances? Ed Darrell Dallas"Conkle, Daniel O." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/01/politics/01cnd-oconnor.html ___To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.eduTo subscribe,

Re: Government criticism of the Supreme Court on religion-related materials

2005-07-12 Thread Ed Darrell
or givers of laws. It's been my observation that the displays that get into trouble are those that don't feature the pagans, animists, Jews, Moslems, atheists and French whose contributions help our laws today. One might make a case that they are bad because they do not accurately show the history.

Re: George Washington adding under God to the Presidential oath

2005-07-20 Thread Ed Darrell
Democrat Party" in error. It shows pique and little regard for history and fair discussion. Arthur V. Watkins and others of honor will, in this author's view, remain a Republican. It's not the "Republic Pary," either. Smiling all the time, Ed Darrell Dallas, by way of Columbia Falls,

Re: IRS clears Falwell

2005-07-25 Thread Ed Darrell
and Ronald Reagan, for example), and the non-political requirements of a 501(c)(3) where it is an officer of the organization either urging or ordering members to act politically. Ed Darrell Dallas[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps you'd be interested in this news story: "The Internal Revenue Se

Re: Humpty Dumpty, James Madison, the States and Meaning

2005-07-27 Thread Ed Darrell
, instead. Does anyone have a reference to a serious attempt to re-establish a church after 1778, in any of the colonies? Ed Darrell DallasGene Garman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, Steve's suggested "problem" is erroneous and a distortion. I never said the First Amendment when writt

Re: John Lofton/Oaths

2005-07-29 Thread Ed Darrell
efferson's view. Not toleration. Ed Darrell Dallas[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/28/2005 7:43:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not sure why it is implied that one's oath to God is false or rather to a false God unless one's hand is on the Bible. How can a plurali

Re: John Lofton/Oaths

2005-07-29 Thread Ed Darrell
of Rights, Madison's views on what the law should be never varied. Ed Darrell[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/29/2005 4:31:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Everybody's included, in Jefferson's view. Not toleration Okay. Now that evidences the possibility

Re: John Lofton/Oaths

2005-07-29 Thread Ed Darrell
informed by history, I think it's quite clear. Ed Darrell Dallas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/29/2005 6:33:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any alternativeargument must have Madison flip-flopping on religious freedom, and I don't think there is any

Re: Challenge

2005-07-29 Thread Ed Darrell
any branch of government or a quasi-governmental body to act in religion. Beyond the First Amendment, generally the government is silent about religious _expression_, and has been mostly silent since 1789. Ed Darrell DallasFrancis Beckwith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gene:Isn’t there something

Re: Pres. Bush Supports Intelligent Design

2005-08-02 Thread Ed Darrell
to teach creationism; that was the basis for the judgment against the Louisiana statute in Edwards v. Aguillard, which the Supreme Court agreed with in 1987. In the current controversies, the proposal is to put intelligent design into biology classes. Ed Darrell Dallas[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: Pres. Bush Supports Intelligent Design

2005-08-02 Thread Ed Darrell
tradition, and by several different laws. Curriculum is a local issue. Ed Darrell Dallas[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was a story in yesterday's NYT about a group placing "Bible" classes in various public schools. Apparently, the content includes assertions about intelligent design

Re: Pres. Bush Supports Intelligent Design

2005-08-02 Thread Ed Darrell
em stick. Biology books teach evolution agnostically, with no reference to origins other than a history of the planet geologically and a factual listing of the research on the conditions scientists find necessary for early life. It is that agnostic teaching exactly that the critics find offensiv

Re: Pres. Bush Supports Intelligent Design

2005-08-02 Thread Ed Darrell
But isn't that exactly what the First Amendment means when it says "Congress shall make no law?" It's not odd at all, to me. It is historically, patriotically, and liberty-confirminglycomforting. Ed Darrell' DallasFrancis Beckwith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed:Cause and effect co

Re: Elective Bible Classes

2005-08-02 Thread Ed Darrell
Bible course. Dr. Paterson's criticisms strike me as quite valid. Has this course ever been seriously challenged in court? What is the record of its surviving challenge on constitutional issues? If there has been no court test, it may be that Mr. Bradley's letter has simply scared off not-well-pr

Re: Cupertino case dismissed

2005-08-16 Thread Ed Darrell
s. Of course that's impossible if some people take a religious stand contrary to history, or science, or literature that is taught in the public schools. I can hope. We need to concentrate on liberty, and be careful that we don't start defending license. Ed Darrell DallasRick Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] w

RE: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-19 Thread Ed Darrell
frustrates their religion, them's the breaks. We have methods for determining good science from bad, or current science from disproven science. Those methods work fine with ID. Ed Darrell DallasRick Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any scientific theory that needs bad constitutional law to protect it

Re: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-19 Thread Ed Darrell
, and fishes. Ed Darrell Dallas[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/19/2005 5:50:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We have methods for determining good science from bad, or current science from disproven science. Here we agree and disagree. Utter silence from

Re: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-19 Thread Ed Darrell
nce issues, I think. In a fair fight, the evidence is solidly in back of Darwinian ideas. Ed Darrell Dallas[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/19/2005 6:02:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I have seenis a concerted effort to debunk ID's claim to be science.

Re: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-20 Thread Ed Darrell
blic health are rife with stories of goofs that led to evolution of newer and hardier breeds of germs and the insects and vermin who carry them. Keeping to the old Hippocratic Oath standard of, "First, do no harm," becomes more difficult the more we know and the tougher diseases become. Ed

Re: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-20 Thread Ed Darrell
such commentaries assume that science has been demonstrated, but that assumption has not been borne out in any court, and I don't think it can be. Ed Darrell Dallas Rick Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edwards did not hold that "creation science" could not be taught in the govt school

Re: No Secular Purpose

2005-08-21 Thread Ed Darrell
able to ID advocates, I think. A fair curriculum would of necessity expose the manifold errors of ID, and ID advocates would protest. That's why high school biology texts take it so easy on creationism now. Creationists need courses in evidence in civil procedure, not Constitutional law. Ed Darrell

RE: Religious Polygamy

2005-08-21 Thread Ed Darrell
. There remain some areas where information and education are still our best tools against disease. Ed Darrell DallasRick Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Sandy now agree with me that male on male anal sodomy is "victim-causing" behavior? If so, then the law could rationally go after th

Re: No Secular Purpose

2005-08-21 Thread Ed Darrell
rd members in Pennsylvania, too. As an active and practicing Christian, I have difficulty figuring out what these peole say is offensive in evolution. That is evidence again that it's a sectarian issue, and not one of science. Ed Darrell DallasFrancis Beckwith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed:It’s not clear

RE: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-23 Thread Ed Darrell
evidence. Ed Darrell DallasNewsom Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, with due respect, I don't think that there is an equivalence here.The news reports about students being driven away from science rest onempirical data. There is no empirical data that the questioner at thebeginning of the NYT

Re: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-23 Thread Ed Darrell
.org/docs2/news/fedsdropcase01042303.htmFrankOn 8/23/05 6:35 PM, "Ed Darrell" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In 2003 the Justice Department investigated a report of religious discrimination at Texas Tech University, where a popular and tough biology professor required students to pass his class

Re: UC system sued

2005-08-27 Thread Ed Darrell
t Calculus is not considered automatically as having understood the subject well enough to avoid taking it as the university teaches it. A bad calculus book can sink a kid's hopes for advanced placement in calculus. Why wouldn't a good university apply similar standards to other courses? Ed Darrell Dallas[EMAIL

Re: UC system sued

2005-08-28 Thread Ed Darrell
Jim, do you mean like Mormons and Moslems who do not accept communism on religious reasons? No, they don't get a pass on the parts of the history or economics exams that deal with communism. Are there other examples? Ed Darrell DallasJames Maule [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question 6 (followup

Re: Military Distribution of Bibles

2005-08-31 Thread Ed Darrell
presentation may be made by the Chaplain in charge, if necessary." Here's their website: http://www.gideons.org/faq.html Ed Darrell DallasGordon James Klingenschmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The mass distribution of Bibles to new recruits is generally done by Chaplains, in the chapel

Re: Floodwaters and Undermined Walls

2005-09-01 Thread Ed Darrell
the street, away from the government hall, forprayer and a sermon. I think Judge Dement would have approved of that, too. Surely there should be no less separation after incorporation. We can learn a lot from history. Ed Darrell Dallas[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/1/2005 4:11:37

Re: Floodwaters and Undermined Walls

2005-09-02 Thread Ed Darrell
of the problems Judge Dement noted in the earlier case. Let's not get distracted by unlikely hypotheticals. North Carolina, Florida, Texas, and other coastal areas can still be saved, with action. Ed Darrell Dallas[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The wall is the central metaphor defining the meaning and work

Re: CNN: Bush will nominate Roberts

2005-09-05 Thread Ed Darrell
But don't forget Roberts' time as clerk, and his Washington experience. Plus, soon there will be another new justice, with less time on the Court than Roberts has. There will be a shuffling of relationships, and a lot of new ties formed (and rather quickly, everyone hopes). The big question

Re: Garza?

2005-09-05 Thread Ed Darrell
How are we counting Cardozo? Ed DarrellRick Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that the President has nominated Roberts for CJ, any predictions on who will be nominated to fill O'C's seat? Here is mine--Judge Emilio Garza of the 5th Circuit (New Orleans). This is a political 3-base hit--Garza

Re: Public Schools, Intolerance Christian Dancers

2005-10-07 Thread Ed Darrell
ADF is larger than ACLU now? Amazing. Ed Darrell DallasRick Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is an ADF press release concerning a victory in a public school censorship case: On with the show: ADF secures student's right to dance to religious music Once-censored song back in play for high

Re: Air Force sued over religious intolerance

2005-10-08 Thread Ed Darrell
. Ed Darrell Dallas[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, of course, has taken my points out of context. When a recruit seeks out a chaplain for information about the chaplain's religion, that is entirely different from a chaplain engaging in proselytization on his or her own initiative. As Doug so rightly

Re: The Devil Went Down to Georgia

2005-10-15 Thread Ed Darrell
without objection. Duncanville's school lawyers may be more up on the law than other school lawyers. Ed Darrell Dallas (Duncanville ISD, by the way)"Volokh, Eugene" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An amusing little incident; thanks to Becky Dale for thepointer:http://www.potomacnews.com/servlet

Re: The Devil Went Down to Georgia

2005-10-16 Thread Ed Darrell
religious freedoms. Without additional action to infer religious intent on the part of the band director, I think it would be difficult to maintain a case that a marching band's instrumental music violates the reasonable separation of church and state. Ed Darrell Dallas[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Cornell's Interim President addresses Intelligent Design

2005-10-22 Thread Ed Darrell
You graduated from Cornell, and moved to Kentucky? Cornell's student paper has had several ID pieces in the last year. Is it a bit of a campus controversy? Rawlings seems eminently rational on the issue. Watch for attacks from the ID camp. And thanks for the URL. Ed[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Cornell's Interim President addresses Intelligent Design

2005-10-22 Thread Ed Darrell
My apologies to the list. Wrong Art. Wrong list. I need more coffee. Ed DarrellEd Darrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You graduated from Cornell, and moved to Kentucky? ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe,

RE: Bronx Household of Faith v New York Schools

2005-11-21 Thread Ed Darrell
ed in the Nebraskans singing Texas aspect, Ed Darrell DallasRick Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I don't understand the difference between "speech on a religious topic" and a "religious service." The "services" I attend most Sundays involve announcemen

Re: Bronx Household of Faith v New York Schools

2005-11-21 Thread Ed Darrell
, that this case is still in the system. Ed Darrell Dallas[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't the key question whether the public schools rent to groups 52 weeks/year for long periods of time? Many of the church-planting initiatives involve using the school the entire weekend, or at least almost all

Re: Public schools and parents

2005-11-28 Thread Ed Darrell
ience is taught, why not simply disclaim that religious view and leave the science alone? Surely it would be within the law for a governmental agency to note that it makes no religious endorsement in a given case, in support of Constitutional principles. Ed Darrell Dallas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RE: Public schools and parents

2005-11-28 Thread Ed Darrell
bama's law. If evolution critics want to make a label to avoid religious offense while withstanding judicial scrutiny, they need to compose a warning that avoids religious defense, too.! sp; There's the rub. Ed Darrell Dallas"Volokh, Eugene" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I think that man

Re: Dover Intelligent-Design Case

2005-12-20 Thread Ed Darrell
to subvert the legal machinery rather than go into the lab. Shakespeare was right about tangled webs. In nature, of course, we don't find tangled webs. Judge Jones saw that, and noted it accurately. IMHO, of course.Ed Darrell Dallas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although I do not disagree

Re: Dover Intelligent-Design Case

2005-12-20 Thread Ed Darrell
separately by two newspapers and captured on videotape. Judge Jones was probably wise to include this statement about the defendants' testimony, as a help for appellate courts.Ed Darrell DallasBrad M Pardee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The judge wrote, "Those who disagree with our ho

Re: Dover Intelligent-Design Case

2005-12-20 Thread Ed Darrell
l. I think Judge Jones' standing up for high standards on this issue is a good thing.Ed Darrell Dallas[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, Ed Darrell distorts my post. I never said or implied that Kuhn's theory of sciencefavors intelligent! design in any way at all." What

Re: Dover Intelligent-Design Case

2005-12-20 Thread Ed Darrell
, and spades as spades! . Judge Jones' carefully labeling a lie as a lie should leave no question, at least.Ed Darrell DallasBrad Pardee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps. If he had stopped at saying he believed they lied, that would be one thing. When the judge throws in the accusation

Re: Dover Intelligent-Design Case

2005-12-21 Thread Ed Darrell
d outcomes.Ed Darrell Dallas[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In a message dated 12/21/2005 8:42:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Interesting that you think that a judge's job does not include being aware of the political impact of his or her decision! Am

Re: Dover Case Questions

2005-12-21 Thread Ed Darrell
nce of any possible answer to that question points to the lack of science behind ID. That is the whole issue.Ed Darrell DallasPerry Dane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robert Lipkin wrote:I would argue that Steve's inference from the facts of "disease, war,violence, inequity, inequality, stupidity

Re: Dover Case Questions

2005-12-21 Thread Ed Darrell
by school boards that micromanage, either. Ed Darrell DallasSteven Jamar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so! mething can be true without being the full truth.2+2 = 4. That is true.But it does a poor job of fully describing nature. Or math.Setve On Dec 21, 2005, at 2:06 PM, Perry Dane

Re: Regarding A note about the Atheist Legal Center

2006-01-03 Thread Ed Darrell
In the Mermelstein case in California, the judge took judicial note of the accuracy of the history of the Holacaust. Was there a number mentioned in that decision?Ed Darrell DallasPaul Finkelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fair enough; I am just trying to get Larry Darby to explain his position

Re: Removing Purpose-Prong Taint

2006-01-09 Thread Ed Darrell
Compare the Alabama "moment of silence" case with Brown v. Georgia. Does that qualify?Ed Darrell Dallas"Conkle, Daniel O." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been asked the following question and don't have a good answer: Do you know of a case from any court where a

Re: Draft ID statutory language

2006-01-26 Thread Ed Darrell
valid reason to want to contradict so much science -- valid secular or religious reason?I haven't had my coffee yet. I may be missing problems with the language, but that's my first reaction.Ed Darrell Dallas "Gibbens, Daniel G." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Belowisdraft language fora

RE: Draft ID statutory language

2006-01-26 Thread Ed Darrell
, and in the prac! tice of law. Will the legislature be in session when the science changes? I don't think a case is yet made that current systems are inadequate to determine what is known by science and what gets put in the textbooks.Ed Darrell Dallas"Gibbens, Daniel G." [EMAIL

RE: Boy Scouts, Title VII, and the ministerial exemption

2006-03-02 Thread Ed Darrell
sk, Eugene? Is this a wholly hypothetical situation (I hope)?Ed Darrell DallasAlan Brownstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the answer to this question depends on what the Scouts believeand why they require a belief in G-d and reverence to G-d as a conditionfor membership. If the conditio

Re: State RFRA and nonreligious groups thathaveconscientiousobjections to antidiscrimination laws

2006-03-02 Thread Ed Darrell
for leaders only.Ed Darrell DallasPaul Diamond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A problem is that the Govt. enters the 'moral arena' in an ideological (not societal sense)in which a particular viewpoint is promoted. (ie. homosexuality is good, or not good). Either position tempers opposition.Thus, whilst

Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-03 Thread Ed Darrell
is already the law?Ed Darrell DallasSteven Jamar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is this much different from Reagan's [in]famous proclamation that ! we are Christian country? The resolution seems not to be any sort of law with impact -- just some hortatory language about how school-sponsored prayer

Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-04 Thread Ed Darrell
argument?Ed Darrell DallasPaul Finkelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Creches on public property are only legal if surrounded by Santa,! a few clowns, candy canes and enough other junk to destroy the religious meaing; the 10 commandments on texas lawn was legal only becauase it is "not s

Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-04 Thread Ed Darrell
are? And, by the way -- do you know of any city that has put up a gay pride banner? How many times has this happened?Ed Darrell DallasRick Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I read the text of the Mo resolution, and what I read there between the linesis notso much thedesire to make Christianity the national

RE: Re: Teenagers The Spirit of Liberty

2006-05-23 Thread Ed Darrell
how lawyers for each side might argue it affects such a case.Ed Darrell Dallas"David E. Guinn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (inter alia):This strikes me as theologically incoherent as well as constitutionally troubling (though more in terms of constitutional morality rathe

Re: Teenagers The Spirit of Liberty

2006-05-23 Thread Ed Darrell
is not enough to preserve religious rights against a mob. I'm deeply troubled by that.Ed Darrell DallasRick Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Here is the way I look at it. "One poor kid" tried to censor his classmates with the help of a powerful legal ally, the ACLU.His clas

Re: Atheists disqualified from holding office or testifying as witness

2006-08-20 Thread Ed Darrell
the issue.But it would be a good plot device for a novel: Murderer commits the crime in front of an atheist, then moves to disqualify the eyewitness account at trial on the basis of Article 19 of the Alabama Constitution . . .Ed Darrell DallasJoel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:From

Re: Victory for Military Chaplains Who Pray In Jesus Name

2006-09-30 Thread Ed Darrell
't live up to the same high standards? Why not follow the example of our founders, and avoid insulting the faiths of others?Ed Darrell DallasGordon James Klingenschmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Perhaps Marty's right about one thing...our modern "enlightened" reading of the Constitution

Are churches public venues for NFL purposes?

2007-02-03 Thread Ed Darrell
for a church congregation to watch an NFL game, but I wonder if the NFL hasn't overreached here, just a bit. Your opinions? Ed Darrell Dallas Louisville Courier-Journal: http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070201/SPORTS/70201053 Indianapolis Star

Re: Are churches public venues for NFL purposes?

2007-02-03 Thread Ed Darrell
for the refreshments, how would I calculate the dollar value of the different alternatives open? Ed Darrell Dallas David E. Guinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are several policy and politics issues arising in this exception: 1) The reason that businesses have better

Re: FW: Texas legislature adds under God to Texas flag pledge

2007-05-21 Thread Ed Darrell
bellyache much more about being only the second largest state in the union in land area, Alaska will petition for splitting, making Texas the third largest. Not much chance of that, either. Ed Darrell Dallas Paul Finkelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: alternatively, Texas admission can

Re: CFR for conscientious objectors removed

2007-07-11 Thread Ed Darrell
who could explain why there's little effect, if that's the case? Ed Darrell Dallas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just an informational item. The Department of Defense on June 19 withdrew from publication in the CFR the regulations concerning conscientious objection, previously found

Re: Mormon Student, Justice, ACLU Join Up

2007-08-30 Thread Ed Darrell
it? If West Virginia doesn't have a Blaine amendment in its constitution, doesn't its state constitution require it, too? Ed Darrell Dallas Volokh, Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any thoughts on this? http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Aug25/0,4670,ReligionLawsuitScholarship ,00.html

Re: Mormon Student, Justice, ACLU Join Up

2007-08-30 Thread Ed Darrell
of questions in elders' quorums, queries from potential spouses' parents, and the general disapproval of everyone a person knows, would think it's a voluntary sort of thing that is optional, and no big deal. People are encouraged to breathe, but it's not required . . . Ed Darrell Dallas Brad

Re: wwc -- semis

2007-09-23 Thread Ed Darrell
I thought it was a good discussion for the list. Drat! Ed Darrell Dallas Steven Jamar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My apologies to the list -- I have no idea how or why google put this address into this private email! Some bug in gmail I've run into once before. Steve On 9/23/07, Will Linden

Re: IIED and vagueness

2007-11-01 Thread Ed Darrell
Just out of curiosity, what happens in a hypothetical if the family of the soldier claims the funeral is a religious service which deserves special protection from such disruption? Let's assume the family has a long record of attending church -- oh, heck, let's assume the soldier is himself a

Re: IIED and vagueness

2007-11-01 Thread Ed Darrell
what I get for responding while on hold with a government agency I was arguing with. Ed Darrell Dallas Steven Jamar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry, Ed, but I'm missing the problem. Free exercise or free speech -- is that the conflict you are positing as in conflict? If so, I assume

Re: An email of possible relevance

2007-12-17 Thread Ed Darrell
almost 8 minutes): http://www.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/real/decwarsp.rm Here's the text from the FDR Library: http://www.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/decwart.html That's the one Congress got. Ed Darrell Dallas Alan Leigh Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have heard (hearsay) someone say that FDR gave

RE: Bible class rules set for Texas schools - Faith- msnbc.com

2008-07-22 Thread Ed Darrell
think it's dropping, in fact. Anybody got a current statistic? Ed Darrell Working in Dallas to get the curriculum planned out for 2008-2009, no thanks to the State School Board Gordon James Klingenschmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed writes about teaching about the Bible (as an optional elective

Kid misrecites the Pledge of Allegiance - can he be graded down for that?

2008-08-28 Thread Ed Darrell
grateful to say. Not my homework, either. What should the parents do? Ed Darrell Dallas ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

RE: Kid misrecites the Pledge of Allegiance - can he be graded down for that?

2008-08-29 Thread Ed Darrell
No, I don't know the child's age. I am assuming, due to the nature of the assignment, that the child is in a grade below 6th. Interesting responses on this one. A lot of light in a very dark area. Ed Darrell Dallas James Maule [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I don't think

Re: Augusta State University student sues school over requirementthat she undergo remediation due to her religious views

2010-07-28 Thread Ed Darrell
investigative boards (like the National Conference of Bar Examiners, or whatever name it goes by these days), federal regulation of hospitals and procedures, etc., etc.  A student's hair length is almost anarchic, in contrast. Ed Darrell Dallas --- On Wed, 7/28/10, Paul Finkelman paul.finkel...@yahoo.com

Re: Augusta State University student sues school over requirement that she undergo remediation due to her religious views

2010-07-28 Thread Ed Darrell
line of work. Ed Darrell Dallas --- On Wed, 7/28/10, Rick Garnett rgarn...@nd.edu wrote: From: Rick Garnett rgarn...@nd.edu Subject: Re: Augusta State University student sues school over requirement that she undergo remediation due to her religious views To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics

RE: Harassment

2011-03-03 Thread Ed Darrell
speech contest? Or am I barking up a telephone pole here? Ed Darrell Dallas --- On Fri, 3/4/11, Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edu wrote: From: Volokh, Eugene vol...@law.ucla.edu Subject: RE: Harassment To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Date: Friday, March

Re: Basketball tournaments on the Sabbath

2012-03-02 Thread Ed Darrell
scheduled the game to fit it in. Good, good news. Ed Darrell Dallas From: Alan Brownstein aebrownst...@ucdavis.edu To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Fri, March 2, 2012 3:35:05 PM Subject: RE: Basketball tournaments

Re: Voucher programs

2012-08-09 Thread Ed Darrell
I once wrote to Milton Friedman to ask for examples he knew of where vouchers had worked. I needed them for speeches I was writing. Never did get an answer. Is he the guy the Friedman Foundation is named for ? Ed Darrell Dallas From: Pybas, Kevin M

Re: Request...

2013-03-19 Thread Ed Darrell
Color photo here: http://www.freedomforum.org/graphics/2000/09/photos/lemon.alton.9.21.00.jpg Is it Alton T. Lemon? Ed Darrell Dallas From: William Janssen wjans...@charlestonlaw.edu To: religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Tue, March

Re: New Suit Argues Prop 8 Is Still Enforceable

2013-07-16 Thread Ed Darrell
Good news, for a change! If I had a dime for every time a rumor about some new form of repression from the right turned out to be false, I'd have easily $1.50 t $2.00.  Ed Darrell From: Steven Jamar stevenja...@gmail.com To: Law Religion issues for Law

Re: New Twist On Challenge to ACA Contraceptive Mandate

2013-08-15 Thread Ed Darrell
All he needs to do is decline the policy offered.  This is not a case in controversy.  I predict dismissal. Ed Darrell Dallas From: Penalver, Eduardo penal...@uchicago.edu To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu Sent: Thursday

Re: New Twist On Challenge to ACA Contraceptive Mandate

2013-08-15 Thread Ed Darrell
restaurants for less than 50 cents.  They chose the coffee. He said with a wink that it was not a sin if he didn't enjoy it, too much. There are alternative solutions well short of the legal system for a lot of these issues, it seems to me. Ed Darrell Dallas From

Re: Science Lecture

2014-09-29 Thread Ed Darrell
of reality like that seems to me to fall into Sloth and Pride, especially when coming from theologians. Sitting on the razor in my Texas congregation, Ed Darrell Dallas On Sunday, September 28, 2014 9:45 PM, Finkelman, Paul paul.finkel...@albanylaw.edu wrote: [I posted this earlier

Re: science professor lecture

2014-09-30 Thread Ed Darrell
religious claims against evolution. So they shouldn't be made in science classes, by honest people of faith. IMHO. Your mileage shouldn't vary. Ed Darrell Dallas On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 6:36 AM, Eric Treene etre...@comcast.net wrote: Marc also was asking about the flip side

Re: Muslim-focused "reflection room" in airport

2015-10-29 Thread Ed Darrell
government accommodation of speech or religion. Ed Darrell Dallas From: "Volokh, Eugene" <vol...@law.ucla.edu> To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 7:53 PM Subject: RE: Muslim-focused "refle

Re: Muslim-focused "reflection room" in airport

2015-10-28 Thread Ed Darrell
), the most complaints we got was on chapel signage. Passengers found it difficult to figure out where they were. Ed Darrell Dallas From: Alan E Brownstein <aebrownst...@ucdavis.edu> To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu> Sent: Wednesday, Oct

Re: Muslim-focused "reflection room" in airport

2015-10-28 Thread Ed Darrell
religious verse citations listed on the soft-drink cups at In-n-Out Burgers. Ed Darrell Dallas From: Justin Butterfield <jbutterfi...@libertyinstitute.org> To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 12:

Re: Muslim-focused "reflection room" in airport

2015-10-28 Thread Ed Darrell
m: Alan E Brownstein <aebrownst...@ucdavis.edu> To: Ed Darrell <edarr...@sbcglobal.net>; Law & Religion issues for Law Academics <religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 3:28 PM Subject: RE: Muslim-focused "reflection room" in ai

Re: help wanted

2016-02-22 Thread Ed Darrell
How does Congress get around the first requirement of laws on religion, that "Congress shall make no law?" Interesting question, but like the computer said in War Games, perhaps "the only way to win is not to play." Ed DarrellDallas From: Steven Jamar To:

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