[Repeater-Builder] Re: [Motorola-User] Look for test cable

2004-04-27 Thread Rick - VA3RZS/Charlotte - VA3CMR
Sorry All I got the part # wrong .. its a TEK-37 and TEK-37A Thanks Rick On 26 Apr 2004 at 20:52, Rick - VA3RZS/Charlotte - VA3CMR wrote: Hello all ... I am looking for a Motorola test set adapter cable model tkn6025a if any one can help me out that would be great need this cable

[Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread w9mwq
I have a repeater with an antenna up about 60 feet in the air, Frequency of 146.925/146.325 minus offset. Receiever sensitity is .25 micorovolt at 12DB, seems to be purring along just fine. IFR show the receive to be on frequency. Here's the problem, there is a repeater about 50 air miles

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread Bob Dengler
At 4/26/2004 05:59 PM, you wrote: I have a repeater with an antenna up about 60 feet in the air, Frequency of 146.925/146.325 minus offset. Receiever sensitity is .25 micorovolt at 12DB, seems to be purring along just fine. IFR show the receive to be on frequency. Here's the problem, there is a

[Repeater-Builder] Micor Receiver Identification

2004-04-27 Thread Tony Faiola
Hello Everyone: I have two Micor Receiver boards, and would like to get a schematic for each one. Also, what was their application? There is nothing in any of my micor manuals. Board #1: TLD 5782AV Appears to be 142-150 range. Has normal F1-F4, but looks like it has 4 Rx and 4 Tx elements

[Repeater-Builder] IFR Monitor Repair Charges

2004-04-27 Thread Eric Lemmon
I received the following statement from Aeroflex/IFR this morning, regarding their current fees: The current fee for a non-traceable calibration is $250.00 and a NIST calibration is $500.00. The flat-rate repair includes one major repair and a non-traceable calibration for $1,275.00. The

Re: [Repeater-Builder] IFR Monitor Repair Charges

2004-04-27 Thread John Sichert
Eric, Are the repair rates model specific? Thanks John At 01:04 AM 4/27/04, you wrote: I received the following statement from Aeroflex/IFR this morning, regarding their current fees: The current fee for a non-traceable calibration is $250.00 and a NIST calibration is $500.00. The flat-rate

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread Gary Hoff
Steve's suggestion s are good. We had similar problems in California with 15 Khz splits particularly when the user of the adjacent channel was a bit off frequency. It is most likely the user getting into your machine and not the repeater unless there is some kind of mixing going on. PL (CTCSS)

RE: [Repeater-Builder] IFR Monitor Repair Charges

2004-04-27 Thread Steve S. Bosshard \(NU5D\)
Same deal with large LMR factory depot - flat rate for one problem - more problems MORE $$$s. Steve Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL

[Repeater-Builder] Re: IFR Monitor Repair Charges

2004-04-27 Thread kk2ed
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Steve S. Bosshard \(NU5D\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same deal with large LMR factory depot - flat rate for one problem - more problems MORE $$$s. Steve I just repaired my COM120B - the 10MHz ref osc died. I called them and almost fell out of the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread Jim B.
w9mwq wrote: I have a repeater with an antenna up about 60 feet in the air, Frequency of 146.925/146.325 minus offset. Receiever sensitity is .25 micorovolt at 12DB, seems to be purring along just fine. IFR show the receive to be on frequency. Here's the problem, there is a repeater

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: IFR Monitor Repair Charges

2004-04-27 Thread Steve Grantham
Yeah.. I'd have been upset too! Upset enough to have been blinded by the fiery rage! Always try to remember to order some knobs, spare pico fuses, or whatever else might be cracked or broken if it will get you closer to the minimum charge. 73, Steve, AA5SG - Original Message - From:

[Repeater-Builder] Convertacom

2004-04-27 Thread acbross
Anyone have the pinout of the 25 pin connector on the bottom of a convertacom (NTN5612A)? Art - KC7GF Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Apcor?

2004-04-27 Thread Steve Bosshard
Back in the olden days when Adam 12 and Emergency were on TV, the guys would call Rampart and send a strip back to the ER using a Coronary Observation Radio. The Apcor would use the truck as a vehicular repeater back to the ER. The truck was equipped with a full duplex radio using MED 1 thru MED

[Repeater-Builder] Apcor?

2004-04-27 Thread acbross
Anyone ever heard of a Motorola Apcor radio? A friend has described it as a packset with 10 channels UHF. Can anyone tell me more about it? Art - KC7GF Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Apcor

2004-04-27 Thread RSGilmore
Additional to Steve's -- Squad 51 had the huge orange cargo-case... 80's era APCOR were more like a double-sized lunch-box - about 1/3 battery; believe the RF decks were built around the MX series.. On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 13:00:10 -0500 Steve Bosshard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Back in the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread Mathew Quaife
Yes you are right, I found the user that was causing the interference, not much I can do about it. I am waiting on a new receiver, so hopefully that will help cure some of the problems. Thanks for the input. Mathew - Original Message - From: Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Apcor

2004-04-27 Thread Kevin Bednar
The box on Emergency! was actually a GE telemetry radio I believe. The APCOR consisted of 2 parts. The APCOR itself was MX based and ran relatively low power, I think around 2 watts. The mobile unit was Micor based and they were strange beasts. The Micor/APCOR system was an in-band UHF repeater

[Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Alignment

2004-04-27 Thread w9mwq
Is there any methods of tuning a set of duplexer without having a Spectrum analyzer. I am in the learning stages again. I have an IFR-500a, so I can generate a signal into them. I know this would work somewhat for the receive, but what does one do for the transmit. Mathew Yahoo!

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread Virden Clark Beckman
Try using the math on the IF of your rx to see what is making them mix on your freq, how long have the 2 machines been co-existing on-the-air? If it were one or 2 users you would know it rather than the entire time the machine is active, can you see how clean the signal is from that machine, I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Apcor

2004-04-27 Thread Jim B.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Additional to Steve's -- Squad 51 had the huge orange cargo-case... Yeah-they were called 'Biocoms'. Basic RF components were those Repco/Comco/whatever modular handhelds. Pretty junky by todays standards. 80's era APCOR were more like a double-sized lunch-box -

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread Mathew Quaife
Well I narrowed down parts of the problem, the first being the wide as a 2x4 Regency receiver, which is going to be changed out, and the other is a local ham using 100 watts to talk to this machine, when in it really only needs about 7 watts to hit it full quieting with minimal antenna height. My

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Alignment

2004-04-27 Thread Ken Arck
At 07:40 PM 4/27/2004 -, you wrote: Is there any methods of tuning a set of duplexer without having a Spectrum analyzer. I am in the learning stages again. I have an IFR-500a, so I can generate a signal into them. I know this would work somewhat for the receive, but what does one do for

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread Jim B.
Mathew Quaife wrote: Well I narrowed down parts of the problem, the first being the wide as a 2x4 Regency receiver, which is going to be changed out, yeah. guess ya gotta start somewhere...;c) and the other is a local ham using 100 watts to talk to this machine, when in it really only needs

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread Rogers, Ron
Remind the fellow using 100 watts to talk to a repeater that he could be in violation of Part 97 rules on using minimal power. We had a similar situation and interference to our one 2 meter repeater on the mountain and we had to remind the guy of the Laws of Radio Physics, power, distance, and

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread Mathew Quaife
I could not agree with you more, however, I would tend to think I would have better luck talking to my 4 yr old and getting him to listen. Somehow, Part 97 never enters his mind. I'm changing the receiver to a GE Century receiver, so that should help narrow things down somewhat I hope. -

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Alignment

2004-04-27 Thread Mathew Quaife
The duplexers are a set of TX/RX duplexers, six of them. When you say a 3db pad, that is something that I am not sure of, is this basically the same thing as a db pad used in CATV systems? All I know is that the duplexers were set up as a Varinotch filter system. Mathew - Original Message

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread Virden Clark Beckman
Rather than re-invent the wheel why not try carving the helical from a dead old high band rx tray and add to the front of yours to make it a bit narrower than it is barefoot, if you can find a mastr2 with 5 helicals you could ad a pre-amp and convert the near hits to misses. Mathew Quaife wrote:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Alignment

2004-04-27 Thread Ken Arck
At 02:54 PM 4/27/2004 -0500, you wrote: The duplexers are a set of TX/RX duplexers, six of them. When you say a 3db pad, that is something that I am not sure of, is this basically the same thing as a db pad used in CATV systems? ---Yes they are the same CONCEPT, but CATV ones would be 72

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Alignment

2004-04-27 Thread Gregg Lengling
You should really be using a return loss bridge and a spectrum analyzer and tracking generatorbut yes I know we can't all afford that equipment. You can fudge by using a signal generator and a receiver, also never never never tune the duplexers under transmitter power. The first thing you

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Alignment

2004-04-27 Thread Mathew Quaife
Ok, most of that I understand, and I know there is the main tuning rod, then there is the reject high and reject low tuning pots, but there is a third tuning rod on these duplexers, what would be thier function. Mathew - Original Message - From: Gregg Lengling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread Jim B.
Virden Clark Beckman wrote: Rather than re-invent the wheel why not try carving the helical from a dead old high band rx tray and add to the front of yours to make it a bit narrower than it is barefoot, if you can find a mastr2 with 5 helicals you could ad a pre-amp and convert the near hits

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread Steve Bosshard
No amount of filtering will resolve 2 signals occupying the same overlapping spectrum. Steve Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread Mathew Quaife
I do have a micor coming, just don't know much about it until it get's here. At least I hope that it gets here, kinda shaky on the ebay deal, have not heard from the seller as of yet. Mathew - Original Message - From: Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread Jim B.
Mathew Quaife wrote: I do have a micor coming, just don't know much about it until it get's here. At least I hope that it gets here, kinda shaky on the ebay deal, have not heard from the seller as of yet. Mathew Good luck with it! repeater-builder.com has lots of good info for those. --

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread Ronald Schiller
If you really love your regency, change the if filter. Tighten up the front end with some extra cavities and a notch. Getting rid of interference is easy, a mix is another ball game. The older commercial radios had some very neat front ends. Stay away from any type of synthesized radio on a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexer Alignment

2004-04-27 Thread Ronald Schiller
No Money for equipment, use a scanner set up on the transmit frequency and align it that way. 20 db method or sinader. nice to have all the fancy stuff but you can get pretty close. Ron WA6UNM -Original Message- From: Gregg Lengling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread mch
Unless the problem ISN'T two signals occupying the same spectrum, and it's just a matter of one receiver hearing outside its 'channel'. Joe M. Steve Bosshard wrote: No amount of filtering will resolve 2 signals occupying the same overlapping spectrum. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread Mathew Quaife
You are right Steve, however I know some receivers are better than others. I just had some more interference, just as I have been passing back and forth, this particular ham is 26 miles west of here, says he is running 10 watts into an antenna 20 feet up, and he sounds just as good on 146.325 as

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread Mathew Quaife
I do have two more cavities that I could use, but really don't see the need, at least I hope not. Mathew - Original Message - From: Ronald Schiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: Ronald Schiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 3:26 PM Subject:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread Mathew Quaife
Yes indeed they do, I have been sent to some of it already. He says he took the crystals out of it, hope that is all that he took. Mathew - Original Message - From: Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 3:54 PM Subject: Re:

[Repeater-Builder] Spectrum Analyzer

2004-04-27 Thread w9mwq
Would anyone be willing to look at this Spectrum Analyzer and give me thier opinions on it. I realize it's not the IFR or Motorola service monitor with analyzer, but for basic use and it's price, what do you think. It's on ebay, and the transaction number is 3812108141. Any input would be

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread Steve Bosshard
Unless the problem ISN'T two signals occupying the same spectrum, and it's just a matter of one receiver hearing outside its 'channel'. Joe M. 146R325 occupies from 146315 to 146.335 146.310 occupies from 146.300 to 146.320 They SHARE 146.315 to 146.320. The front end will make NO

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread Bob Dengler
At 4/27/2004 02:00 PM, you wrote: I do have two more cavities that I could use, but really don't see the need, at least I hope not. Mathew Cavity filters will NOT help lessen adjacent-channel interference problems. You said that you can hear this person just as good on 146.325 as you can on

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help on Interference

2004-04-27 Thread Mathew Quaife
He did not tell me which radio he was using, just that it was a Kenwood, his audio was quite wide as well compared to other users that was on the system at the time. Getting him to beleive his transmitter is spurious would be hard to do. If it continues after the changes and completion of the

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Spectrum Analyzer

2004-04-27 Thread skipp025
It's a very nice toy, but not something really usable for the truely serious two-way radio person. Better to buy a used service monitor with the spectrum analyzer and tracking generator built in. Just be sure to buy from someone with references (ie more than one posted on the web). The extra