[Repeater-Builder] MSR 2000 Squelch Gate Module text - Update and error correction

2005-01-22 Thread skipp025
Motorola MSR 2000 (and Micor) Repeater Conversion Text update and (opps) error correction. Hello there, Much to my surprise, I've discovered the MSR 2000 (and Micor) Repeater to External Controller conversion package (downloadable sqlgate.zip file) on the www.radiowrench.com/sonic page was

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Circulator vs. Isolator

2005-01-22 Thread skipp025
Wouldn't the second harmonic of a 1/4 cavity contain minimal F2 rf energy? (The 3rd harmonic is another issue) cheers, skipp Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... because cavities can frequently be resonant on the second harmonic (or higher), which is what you're trying to filter out.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries

2005-01-22 Thread Neil McKie
I've seen people use the battery charger ... but I don't don't have an opinion on using one. Neil Mathew Quaife wrote: Got one to spare...Hi HiI don't have a problem running the batteries, it's keeping them charged at a rate that they can handle. We don't often loose power

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries

2005-01-22 Thread Mathew Quaife
Well call this luck of the draw. I just had donated three 86 amp hour batteries and the charger that came out of a telephone communications tower. Probably will go pick them up next week. So till then, guess I don't get to use my amateur station as I robbed the power supply. Thanks for the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries

2005-01-22 Thread Q
And also note that marine grade batteries wont last very long in standby duty,a little better than a car battery but not much. Its worth the extra money to buy gel cell type batteries designed for that type of duty.They are also totally sealed which may be required if used in your home or at

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries

2005-01-22 Thread Mathew Quaife
I agree! One only know how much damage could have been created once the power supply died. I don't even know if it sent any power backwards, but no damage to the equipment. The donator of the batteries is a commercial broadcast technician as is his father, and has offered his knowledge in

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries

2005-01-22 Thread Mathew Quaife
Pretty Expensive, my cost as a dealer is near the $200.00 mark, and that's before shipping. At least for the good ones. Might work. Mathew -Original Message- From: Mark Holman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 6:55 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries

2005-01-22 Thread Al Wolfe
Mathew, There has been some good advice on here about different method to accomplish what you want to do. I have used both the relay idea and the diode isolator with success. As others have mentioned, using a smart charger is your best insurance for reasonable battery life. FWIW, the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Circulator vs. Isolator

2005-01-22 Thread Eric Lemmon
Scott, A ferrite circulator is simply a three-terminal device that is designed to steer RF currents so that they move in one direction around a circular path between ports that are spaced 120 degrees apart. What comes in at one port will leave at the next port if the terminating impedance is 50

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries

2005-01-22 Thread CookTowersInc
Just to add to Russ, W3CH. The local club in NJ that did this did NOT install the battery's in the UPS. That was not made real clear. They sit next to the APC brand UPS in two Sears battery boxes. This has been working on there repeater for well over a year. Russ is correct it is very cost

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries

2005-01-22 Thread Ronny Julian
I think you are talking about Optima batteries. Yea I've got one in my Minivan :) It's the main battery and has been working great for quite awile. 3 year free replacement. I have the Red top battery but all the young bucks say the yellow lasts longer. I didn't see much difference.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries

2005-01-22 Thread Ronny Julian
Mathew where are you buying yours? Ebay has lots! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=7948379212category=33574 - Original Message - From: Mathew Quaife [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 10:13 PM Subject:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries

2005-01-22 Thread Wade Lake
- Original Message - From: Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries edctexas wrote: Look on the Kevin's Web site under Astron power

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries

2005-01-22 Thread NØATH
Hey Jim - wouldn't that work if you used a 12 volt relay powered by the Astron? I understand what you are saying and your post has warned me of a potential problem coming on my system ( which has a 120 volt relay ) Never ever even considered that possibility. Thanks for the tip, Dave / NØATH

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries

2005-01-22 Thread Wade Lake
A friend of mine and I designed a very simple circuit to modify the Astron 20A Power supplies to do this job. Obviously this could be done on any power supply but the Astron 20A is common and inexpensive and they leave enough room to put this all inside easily. The first thing you will need is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries

2005-01-22 Thread Rick - VA3RZS/Charlotte - VA3CMR
We also use the same idea here ... we use 2 batts from the scotters .. thay are sealed lead acids . work great !! and thay can really be drawn down if needed ( that's what thay where made to do) and the price is not bad .. we paid $100 each for them and verry will worth it and we also

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries

2005-01-22 Thread kc2cjw
I prefer solid state isolators between the batteries the supply. West Mt.'s was reviewed in a recent QST (see below), and Duracom ( others) have similar units at varying prices. I recommend them highly, and use them in commercial, public utility, and public safety applications. I have

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Circulator vs. Isolator

2005-01-22 Thread wn1b8
Eric, Jim, and others, Thanks for the replies. Your explanations were as I expected but I wanted to be certain. I am very familliar with circulators as we use them quite often in microwave configurations. When I became aware of isolators, I attempted to research them and concluded that there

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries

2005-01-22 Thread kc2cjw
The UPS w/ external battery is a great idea. One thing you need to watch however is the in-rush current of a nearly drained battery stack. If there was an outage which took the batteries down to where the UPS shut off, when A/C returned the batteries *might* want allot more food than the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries

2005-01-22 Thread Q
The UPS's I have used had current limiting on their charging circuits and never had a problem running bigger external battery banks,but YMMV depending on the design... However,lightning wasnt so kind. Anyone have a surplus UPS FS? kc2cjw wrote: The UPS w/ external battery is a great idea.

[Repeater-Builder] Where can I find the CAS for IC F-420

2005-01-22 Thread Paul
Can anyone tell me where to find the CAS or COR signal for an Icom F- 420? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo!

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries

2005-01-22 Thread CookTowersInc
Home Depot has a cheap UPS for about $39.00 Beakin or something like that brand. I bought 3 for at home and they work out OK. Dean Westbrook, EE, PE. Cook Towers, INC. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries

2005-01-22 Thread CookTowersInc
This is all 100% true. But try this little mod. Add a 14 VDC light bulb in series with the load. It will help to limit this problem. Dean, Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries

2005-01-22 Thread Gran Clark
Mathew You should at least check the option BB on the Astron. The backup option gives 13.8V current limited at about 3A. We just replaced four deep cycle batteries in parallel after about seven years of service being kept alive with the BB option. Gran K6RIF At 09:11 1/21/2005, you wrote:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 220 Repeater

2005-01-22 Thread k3phl
The 13-509's are more common than you might think. I lot of them are popping up in estate sales and on E-Bay for well under $100. I've found half a dozen of them just this past year. If you just monitor one local 220 machine, buying one of these and ordering a crystal set for it is an

[Repeater-Builder] Re: UPS 4sale

2005-01-22 Thread Tedd Doda
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:38:37 -0500, Q wrote: However,lightning wasnt so kind. Anyone have a surplus UPS FS? Sure, how much do you want to spend :) I have one surplus to my needs: A) Alpha UPS 2200 complete with 4 NEW 33AH gell cells -laughs at loads below 1.5 KW -instant start - think of it

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries

2005-01-22 Thread Mathew Quaife
Well the battery and power supply problem was rectified by a ham that lives about 30 miles from the repeater. He recently began using the repeater. He over heard me talking to another ham telling him what happened to the power supply, and jumped in and donated three large capacity

[Repeater-Builder] syntor X 9000

2005-01-22 Thread Rich
I know you can co-phase Mobil antennas, 33- 45 split. Can It be done with Base antennas? With 50 ft of hard line. WE had two GE rangers in our EOC and one went bad. Let me know... Rich Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries

2005-01-22 Thread Richard
I've been doing some research into 3-mode battery chargers and the Ibex units seem to fit the bill for my application. Using your link, I checked their web site but they state they will not sell to individuals. Is this true and is there a way around this? Richard, N7TGB -Original

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Powering the Repeater With Marine Batteries

2005-01-22 Thread Tony King, W4ZT
I have bought from them several times in the past and they said on the phone that they will sell to hams. Their service was good. They don't or didn't take credit cards but did ship as soon as they received my check. 73, Tony W4ZT Richard wrote: I've been doing some research into 3-mode

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cook Towers

2005-01-22 Thread Doug Zastrow
Thanks, John. I did get in touch with them. Doug - Original Message - From: John Przychocki To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cook Towers hmmm, just got a letter from them,

[Repeater-Builder] Re: UPS 4sale

2005-01-22 Thread Tedd Doda
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:38:37 -0500, Q wrote: However,lightning wasnt so kind. Anyone have a surplus UPS FS? Sure, how much do you want to spend :) I have one surplus to my needs: A) Alpha UPS 2200 complete with 4 NEW 33AH gell cells -laughs at loads below 1.5 KW -instant start - think of it