[Repeater-Builder] Re: how to build a very simple repeater

2006-11-28 Thread sgreact47
Mike you forgot one important resource: http://c-cor.org/echocomm/

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how to build a very simple repeater

2006-11-28 Thread Adam Vazquez
Hi from Adam Kb2jpd You can do a real simple repeater controller using some 555/556 timing chips in monostable mode.Look at any Forest Mimms 555 cookbooks. He did quite a few decent circuits. As for the ID timer requirement, You can get any 1200 packet TNC that has morse code ID that you can

[Repeater-Builder] repeater antenna suggestions

2006-11-28 Thread Steve Hutzley
Hello all, I know I'm asking a loaded question. Our club just lost our UHF antenna. The last straw was a wind storm. The make of the antenna that was up there is unknown. A stationmaster would be nice, but we cant afford it. A Decibel Products DB series - I hear are maintenance nightmares.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] repeater antenna suggestions

2006-11-28 Thread Paul Finch
A DB series antenna is the best choice if you install it correctly. They will last decades if done correctly. Paul WB5IDM _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Hutzley Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:59 AM To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] spur from UHF MASTR II mobile - link radio

2006-11-28 Thread Aland services
During receive mode try to measure the by-passed PA DC voltage if it exists then it may cause self oscillation within the PA disconnect this DC voltage and see. Aland Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, Built a link radio out of a MASTR II mobile a while back.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: spur from UHF MASTR II mobile - link radio

2006-11-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Should the same high-side injection be requested when ordering 440-450 MHz crystals for a MICOR channel element? So far, everything has tuned up very well just having ICM make new crystals according to the standard MICOR receiver formula, and I always send in the channel elements to be

Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater antenna suggestions

2006-11-28 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 05:59 AM 11/28/06, you wrote: Hello all, I know I'm asking a loaded question. Our club just lost our UHF antenna. The last straw was a wind storm. The make of the antenna that was up there is unknown. A stationmaster would be nice, but we cant afford it. A Decibel Products DB series - I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater antenna suggestions

2006-11-28 Thread Chuck Kelsey
If you call never having to touch it in the past 27 years as a maintenance nightmare then, yes, I'd avoid them. Chuck - Original Message - From: Steve Hutzley To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:59 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] repeater

[Repeater-Builder] 2 Baby Boys

2006-11-28 Thread Maire-Radios
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 7:22 PM Subject: Users Group 2 Baby Boys OK Everyone - Sorry I have not been watching the group for the last two weeks. I have been a little busy. On November 15th on of the twins decided at 4:30 AM to break his water. At around 4:30 PM Victoria and My Two

RE: [Repeater-Builder] spur from UHF MASTR II mobile - link radio

2006-11-28 Thread Bob Dengler
At 11/27/2006 12:26 PM, you wrote: Hi guys, Built a link radio out of a MASTR II mobile a while back. 444.575 TX, 447.575 RX. It's the LO multiplier chain that you're hearing. 145.460 * 3 + 11.2 = 447.580 (447.575). After having the link installed in my basement for a few days, I

RE: [Repeater-Builder] spur from UHF MASTR II mobile - link radio

2006-11-28 Thread Bob Dengler
At 11/28/2006 10:19 AM, you wrote: You don't hear it when the radio is TXing because the T/R relay disconnects the receiver from the antenna. Not quite, as 145 MHz will never make it through the UHF helicals. It's just leaking out of the RX case. I forgot to mention: the reason you don't

Re: [Repeater-Builder] spur from UHF MASTR II mobile - link radio

2006-11-28 Thread Nate Duehr
Aland services wrote: During receive mode try to measure the by-passed PA DC voltage if it exists then it may cause self oscillation within the PA disconnect this DC voltage and see. Aland Already done when the PA was by-passed, but thanks for the thought. Nate WY0X

RE: [Repeater-Builder] spur from UHF MASTR II mobile - link radio

2006-11-28 Thread Jeff DePolo
I forgot to mention: the reason you don't hear it on TX on an unmodified Mastr II is because the RX OSC 10V is cut off during TX, so there's no RX LO when TXing. Bob NO6B I don't have a manual in front of me, so I have to ask the question here. If the 10V to the Rx oscillator board is

RE: [Repeater-Builder] spur from UHF MASTR II mobile - link radio

2006-11-28 Thread Jeff DePolo
Not quite, as 145 MHz will never make it through the UHF helicals. It's just leaking out of the RX case. Neil's got the easiest solution: order a high-side LO xtal for your 447.575 RX. Bob NO6B But that will just move the problem somewhere else...up to 152.925 where you might make

Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater antenna suggestions

2006-11-28 Thread Maire-Radios
We have a number of them in operation(DB-420 and 419) both in Fl and TN. Some up and working since 1992 with no problems. Thanks john - Original Message - From: Chuck Kelsey To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:54 AM Subject: Re:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] spur from UHF MASTR II mobile - link radio

2006-11-28 Thread Bob Dengler
At 11/28/2006 10:49 AM, you wrote: Not quite, as 145 MHz will never make it through the UHF helicals. It's just leaking out of the RX case. Neil's got the easiest solution: order a high-side LO xtal for your 447.575 RX. Bob NO6B But that will just move the problem somewhere

RE: [Repeater-Builder] spur from UHF MASTR II mobile - link radio

2006-11-28 Thread Bob Dengler
At 11/28/2006 10:49 AM, you wrote: I forgot to mention: the reason you don't hear it on TX on an unmodified Mastr II is because the RX OSC 10V is cut off during TX, so there's no RX LO when TXing. Bob NO6B I don't have a manual in front of me, so I have to ask the question here. If

Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] spur from UHF MASTR II mobile - link radio

2006-11-28 Thread n . mckie
Not quite ... I believe he stated this radio package is being used at home - reason for the problem being discussed in the first place. The 145.45833 MHz birdie seems to be interferring with his ability to hear a 2 meter repeater output. A 152.925 MHz birdie may not cause

Re: [Repeater-Builder] spur from UHF MASTR II mobile - link radio

2006-11-28 Thread Nate Duehr
Bob Dengler wrote: At 11/28/2006 10:49 AM, you wrote: Not quite, as 145 MHz will never make it through the UHF helicals. It's just leaking out of the RX case. Neil's got the easiest solution: order a high-side LO xtal for your 447.575 RX. Bob NO6B But that will just move the problem

[Repeater-Builder] GE Exec II Conv. Max audio 1.5 KHz Dev, how can I increase it

2006-11-28 Thread n9lv
I have taken a UHF transmitter and combined it with a VHF receiver for a crossband split. The very maximum deviation that I can obtain from the radio is about 1.5 KHz. This is with the pot turn all the way up. Mic high is being fed into a 1.0 MFD cap through a 15K resistor to the high side

Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater antenna suggestions

2006-11-28 Thread Sean Fitzharris
Here here!! The 1151-2 Station Master sells for around $650 and from what I can find on the net the HS9-43050 Hustler antenna sells for $500. Steve, I think your closer to affording it than you think. Do it right once and worry about it again in 20 years. -Sean If you're up on a rough site,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] spur from UHF MASTR II mobile - link radio

2006-11-28 Thread Bob Dengler
At 11/28/2006 12:23 PM, you wrote: Bob Dengler wrote: At 11/28/2006 10:49 AM, you wrote: Not quite, as 145 MHz will never make it through the UHF helicals. It's just leaking out of the RX case. Neil's got the easiest solution: order a high-side LO xtal for your 447.575 RX. Bob

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Exec II Conv. Max audio 1.5 KHz Dev, how can I increase it

2006-11-28 Thread Bob Dengler
At 11/28/2006 12:31 PM, you wrote: I have taken a UHF transmitter and combined it with a VHF receiver for a crossband split. The very maximum deviation that I can obtain from the radio is about 1.5 KHz. This is with the pot turn all the way up. Mic high is being fed into a 1.0 MFD cap through a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] spur from UHF MASTR II mobile - link radio

2006-11-28 Thread Bob Dengler
At 11/28/2006 01:06 PM, you wrote: Nothing forgotten - the ICOM still gets 10 V, just not 10 V for the oscillator. There are two separate 10 V feeds to the RX: one for the LO oscillator one for everything else. Bob Confused. The ICOM *is* the oscillator, and it only has one 10V

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Exec II Conv. Max audio 1.5 KHz Dev, how can I increase it

2006-11-28 Thread Mathew Quaife
Bob, I am not all that familiar with op amp's. Do you have a diagram of something I can try to see if it works. The 1.5 KHz might be enough allowing the controller to maintain the rest, won't know until it is all hooked up and running. But in my thinking, 3.0 Khz would be much better,

[Repeater-Builder] Help in identifying

2006-11-28 Thread Mark Tomany
I have what I believe is a circulator/isolator that I would like to identify. It is big and heavy, meaning it measures 13W x 4 5/8H x 1 7/8D, and weighs about 15 lbs. The label says: Microwave Associates, a M/A Com company Serial: 1009 Model J-210 It has

[Repeater-Builder] Re: repeater antenna suggestions

2006-11-28 Thread Tony L.
Our club's 1151-2 Station Master was installed professionally in 1990 and is still going strong. No SWR problems at all and excellent wind rating. I'd highly recommend you spend the extra $150 for a top notch antenna. --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Sean Fitzharris [EMAIL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help in identifying

2006-11-28 Thread Nate Duehr
Mark Tomany wrote: I have what I believe is a circulator/isolator that I would like to identify. It is big and heavy, meaning it measures 13W x 4 5/8H x 1 7/8D, and weighs about 15 lbs. The label says: Microwave Associates, a M/A Com company Serial: 1009

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Exec II Conv. Max audio 1.5 KHz Dev, how can I increase it

2006-11-28 Thread Nate Duehr
Mathew Quaife wrote: Bob, I am not all that familiar with op amp's. Do you have a diagram of something I can try to see if it works. The 1.5 KHz might be enough allowing the controller to maintain the rest, won't know until it is all hooked up and running. But in my thinking, 3.0 Khz

[Repeater-Builder] Re: GE Exec II Conv. Max audio 1.5 KHz Dev, how can I increase it

2006-11-28 Thread k6jsi
Hi Mathew, You did not mention where you're picking up the audio from the VHF RX. It should be speaker audio, that has been de-emphed. If you are taking it from the high-side of the squelch pot (VOL-SQ HI), that is discriminator audio, and as it has already been correctly pointed out by

Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater antenna suggestions

2006-11-28 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 08:24 AM 11/28/06, you wrote: Here here!! The 1151-2 Station Master sells for around $650 and from what I can find on the net the HS9-43050 Hustler antenna sells for $500. Steve, I think your closer to affording it than you think. Not quite. See below. Do it right once and worry about it

Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater antenna suggestions

2006-11-28 Thread cruising7388
In a message dated 11/28/2006 5:42:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just include the anti-sway arm as part of the purchase price and consider the sum of the two as the cost of the antenna. Mike WA6ILQ Why spend money buying a stabilizing paddle for a

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Help in identifying

2006-11-28 Thread nj902
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mark Tomany [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have what I believe is a circulator/isolator that I would like to identify... -- Microwave Associates catalog sheet shows a J2101, that measures 13.0x4.75x1.88 Specs:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help in identifying

2006-11-28 Thread Ken Arck
If you decide you don't want/need it, I'd take it off your hands. Write me offlist if interested. Ken At 03:32 PM 11/28/2006, you wrote: I have what I believe is a circulator/isolator that I would like to identify. It is big and heavy, meaning it measures 13W x 4 5/8H x 1 7/8D, and weighs

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Help in identifying

2006-11-28 Thread Glenn Little WB4UIV
I work at a TV station that uses a Harris TV30L channel 4 TV transmitter. It has a circulator between the visual driver and PA. It is deeper that the one that you describe, but it uses type N fittings and is in the 70 MHz range. The connector indicates quality in this case. From the size, I

RE: [Repeater-Builder] repeater antenna suggestions

2006-11-28 Thread Eric Lemmon
Why? For one thing, PVC is notorious for its lack of UV resistance, and is prone to craze, crack, or crumble when exposed to sunlight for long periods. Been there, done that. Some formulations of PVC have components that affect the RF field and thereby affect the radiation pattern and/or

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Exec II Conv. Max audio 1.5 KHz Dev, how can I increase it

2006-11-28 Thread no6b
At 11/28/2006 14:52, you wrote: Bob, I am not all that familiar with op amp's. Do you have a diagram of something I can try to see if it works. The 1.5 KHz might be enough allowing the controller to maintain the rest, won't know until it is all hooked up and running. But in my thinking, 3.0

Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater antenna suggestions

2006-11-28 Thread Steve
Most people see hustler and dismiss it as crap but I have a feeling most, if not all people responding have never even seen a Hustler Spirit series antenna. In comparing them to the Stationmaster type antennas I'd say they're constructed equally well. It's a good stout commercial grade antenna

Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater antenna suggestions

2006-11-28 Thread Maire-Radios
We use the DB -420 with the DB side mount with no problems. John - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:42 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] repeater antenna suggestions Why? For one thing, PVC

Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater antenna suggestions

2006-11-28 Thread Gerald Pelnar
I'm not disagreeing with you. I am not a fan of antenna maintenance. For those that may want to use PVC for some purpose, PVC electrical conduit is sunlight resistant and uses less fillers in the formulation. Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF McPherson, Ks - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon

Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater antenna suggestions

2006-11-28 Thread cruising7388
In a message dated 11/28/2006 8:04:48 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why? For one thing, PVC is notorious for its lack of UV resistance, and is prone to craze, crack, or crumble when exposed to sunlight for long periods. Been there, done that. Some formulations of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] repeater antenna suggestions

2006-11-28 Thread Mike Morris
There's a difference between PVC at ground level (or a few hundred feet above it) and PVC at 5,500-6,000 feet AMSL. The IR and UV are much more intense at 6,000 feet elevation... You can gut a sunburn in an hour in the middle of December while swapping antennas or mounting feedline on a tower...