Re: [Repeater-Builder] Installation of Radio Equipment in Elevator Machine Rooms and Hoistways

2007-11-01 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
In Texas the JCAH (Joint Commission on Accreditation of Hospitals) guidelines forbids installation and operation of radio transmitting equipment in hospital elevator equipment rooms. Both Scott and White and Kings Daughters Hospitals had us re-locate all of their radio equipment in the early

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Installation of Radio Equipment in Elevator Machine Rooms and Hoistways

2007-11-01 Thread Bob M.
I remember one such room back in the mid to late 1970s; actually it was almost a floor in itself, as opposed to a room. Four huge Westinghouse traction motors, each with its own rotary converter, handled 11 floors. Racks with hundreds of microswitches and a moving panel followed the cab's progress

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Heliax

2007-11-01 Thread mung
Any suggestions on what to use for a jumper between the Heliax and the antenna for the last few feet to provide flexability and make it easier to get the cable into the antenna mount? Thanks, Vern

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Heliax

2007-11-01 Thread Dexter McIntyre W4DEX
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any suggestions on what to use for a jumper between the Heliax and the antenna for the last few feet to provide flexability and make it easier to get the cable into the antenna mount? RG-214 Dex

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Installation of Radio Equipment in Elevator Machine Rooms and Hoistways

2007-11-01 Thread Shanon KA8SPW
Code is one thing. At the end of the code it states Or as local authority dictates Which translates to what ever the local inspector (aka, self proclaimed god) believes to be the correct interpretation of the code. A few years ago at the Ford World Head Quarters building in Dearborn

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Installation of Radio Equipment in Elevator Machine Rooms and Hoistways

2007-11-01 Thread Paul Plack
Hmmm...Sounds like we need to get the elevator buyers to make the bid specs include a VHF radio in each elevator car! 73 - Paul AE4KR - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 7:52 PM Subject:

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Calculating required T/R isolation

2007-11-01 Thread Paul Plack
Guys, thanks for the suggestions. The duplexer manufacturer websites have scant info. TX-RX Systems has two graphs, one for VHF high band, one for UHF, but no info on the assumptions behind the math. I'm skeptical about the usefulness of receiver adjacent-channel rejection specs, for two

[Repeater-Builder] Ledex control Model 2204

2007-11-01 Thread K7OET
Anyone have a manual for the DTMF controller? Thanks, Jim

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Installation of Radio Equipment in Elevator Machine Rooms and Hoistways

2007-11-01 Thread skipp025
Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I won't presume to know what prompts some people to ignore the law and/or common sense in these cases. Simple, pressure from the gobal economy and what I term the Wal Mart effect. s.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Calculating required T/R isolation

2007-11-01 Thread Gary Schafer
There is no magic formula. The curves given by the duplexer manufacturers are typical for radios like Motorola and GE. Duplexer isolation requirements have little if anything to do with adjacent channel receiver selectivity. That number only tells you how strong the neighboring frequency can

[Repeater-Builder] pc board duplexer article

2007-11-01 Thread skipp025
Anyone got a scanned or photocopy of the famous PC-Board Duplexer QST Magazine Article from years past... they could/would share? This is the duplexer kit made sold by Circuit Board Specialists in Pueble CO. thanks in advance for your replies s.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Installation of Radio Equipment in Elevator Machine Rooms and Hoistways

2007-11-01 Thread n9wys
George, To my knowledge there was no grandfather period awarded. My 900 repeater is located in the penthouse of a 19-floor geriatrics housing building in Joliet, and they made us move all transmitters out of the elevator equipment room about 2 years ago, including the Sheriff, Joliet PD and FD,

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Micor Unified Chassis

2007-11-01 Thread ac6vj
Hi Don, The quick answer is no yes no. The long answer is, On the low band Compa-Station the output power control Board samples the VSWR on the output and folds back, the gain of the pre-driver in the power amplifier when the VSWR gets too high compared to the current draw of the final

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Installation of Radio Equipment in Elevator Machine Rooms and Hoistways

2007-11-01 Thread Daron J. Wilson
Actually, it is addressed in NFPA 70- the National Electrical Code- which is ratified by each State's legislature as law in that State. I quote NFPA 70-2005 Article 620.37, Wiring in Hoistways, Machine Rooms, Control Rooms, Machinery Spaces, and Control Spaces in its entirety: (A) Uses

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Calculating required T/R isolation

2007-11-01 Thread Paul Plack
Gary, I appreciate the comments, and agree with all but one. If transmitter sideband noise, filter skirts and dynamic range can all be represented by numbers, then they should be able to be distilled down to a formula. A complicated one, to be sure, but nothing magic. Those

Re: [Repeater-Builder] pc board duplexer article

2007-11-01 Thread George Henry
According to the ARRL web site QST index search, it was April 1979, page 11. I don't have that one, but do have a copy of the 1972 6-can duplexer construction article. Somebody out there must have the QST CD-ROM that covers 1979, though George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413 -Original

[Repeater-Builder] Motorola antenna adapter part number needed

2007-11-01 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Years ago the standard scanner radio antenna connector was the so-called Motorola car radio connector. It was a metal cylinder maybe 1/4 in diameter with a protruding center pin. Does anybody know of a commercial source of a male Motorola connector to BNC female adapter? Alternatively an SO239

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Calculating required T/R isolation

2007-11-01 Thread Gary Schafer
Hi Paul, I meant that it was not complicated to figure out. For example if the receiver noise floor (sensitivity) is -120 dbm then the transmitter noise power must be known at the receive frequency (as supplied from the manufacturer or measured) and an amount of attenuation added at the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola antenna adapter part number needed

2007-11-01 Thread Bob M.
Is this what you're looking for: http://www.scannerworld.com/content/product/model/ANT38 Bob M. == --- Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Years ago the standard scanner radio antenna connector was the so-called Motorola car radio connector. It was a metal cylinder maybe 1/4 in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola antenna adapter part number needed

2007-11-01 Thread Johnny
If it will help any, I bought one at Radio Shack a few years ago. Johnny Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: Years ago the standard scanner radio antenna connector was the so-called Motorola car radio connector. It was a metal cylinder maybe 1/4 in diameter with a protruding center pin. Does

[Repeater-Builder] Donation Request - Repeater Builder Website - Please read.

2007-11-01 Thread Kevin Custer
Hello all, Reference RBTIP MASTR II websites: http://www.repeater-builder.com/ http://www.mastr2.com/ Everyone knows I hate asking for financial support, but it's the only way I can afford to keep the Repeater Builder site up and running reliably. I have been ask why don't you consider a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] pc board duplexer article

2007-11-01 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 01:32 PM 11/01/07, you wrote: According to the ARRL web site QST index search, it was April 1979, page 11. I don't have that one, but do have a copy of the 1972 6-can duplexer construction article. Somebody out there must have the QST CD-ROM that covers 1979, though George, KA3HSW /

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola antenna adapter part number needed

2007-11-01 Thread Kris Kirby
On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: Years ago the standard scanner radio antenna connector was the so-called Motorola car radio connector. It was a metal cylinder maybe 1/4 in diameter with a protruding center pin. Yes, I could butcher the radio and install a BNC female, but I

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola antenna adapter part number needed

2007-11-01 Thread MikeDeWaele
last ones I got from radio shack. They may still have some if you can get the salesman to stop trying to sell you a cell phone long enough! Mike KA2NDW -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ Sent: Thursday,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola antenna adapter part number needed

2007-11-01 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
EXACTLY !!! They are closed now, I'll call them tomorrow and get two into the mail... Thanks! Mike WA6ILQ At 03:08 PM 11/01/07, you wrote: Is this what you're looking for: http://www.scannerworld.com/content/product/model/ANT38 Bob M. == --- Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Heliax

2007-11-01 Thread mung
I have 65w out of the duplexer on 2m. A friend has a rg214 jumper for me so I think I will use it. On Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:14:00 -0700 Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:01 AM 11/01/07, you wrote: Any suggestions on what to use for a jumper between the Heliax and the antenna

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Heliax

2007-11-01 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 07:01 AM 11/01/07, you wrote: Any suggestions on what to use for a jumper between the Heliax and the antenna for the last few feet to provide flexability and make it easier to get the cable into the antenna mount? Thanks, Vern What's the power level? At 100w or less I use RG-400. At higher

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola antenna adapter part number needed

2007-11-01 Thread Eric Lemmon
Mike, Go to your neighborhood Radio Shack emporium and ask for a #278-208 UHF-to-Motorola-Type Scanner Adapter. It'll set you back $3.49- if it is in stock. It is a male Motorola antenna plug on one end, and a SO-239 jack on the other. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Calculating required T/R isolation

2007-11-01 Thread Eric Lemmon
Paul, General Electric published several Datafile Bulletins which will help you. Here's one: www.repeater-builder.com/ge/datafile-bulletin/df-10003-01.pdf Since you already have experience with Mastr II radios, you'll appreciate that the Duplex Operation Curves are available on the GE Master

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ledex control Model 2204

2007-11-01 Thread Gerald Pelnar
Jim, Have you had the cover off of it? I think I had one of those. There was basic jumper programming for touch tones and connection info on the inside of the top cover. 73, Gerald Pelnar WD0FYF McPherson, Ks - Original Message - From: K7OET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] pc board duplexer article

2007-11-01 Thread George Henry
I'll scan the Dec. 2005 article tomorrow and send you both. George - Original Message - From: Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] pc board duplexer article At 01:32 PM

RE: [Repeater-Builder] pc board duplexer article

2007-11-01 Thread John Barrett
Dump a copy of the duplexer article this way if you would. I need something better than the 4-6 cans I currently have. _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Henry Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 11:11 PM To:

[Repeater-Builder] UHF Radio recommendations ??

2007-11-01 Thread John Barrett
The major problem I was having is resolved. I've finally got a UHF backyard pair for my portable repeater :-) No more hassling with trying to pack 4 radios into 1mhz of VHF bandwidth :-) Since there isn't a way to look at receiver specs and figure how much isolation is really needed, here I am

Re: [Repeater-Builder] UHF Radio recommendations ??

2007-11-01 Thread Nate Duehr
On Nov 1, 2007, at 10:16 PM, John Barrett wrote: Since there isn’t a way to look at receiver specs and figure how much isolation is really needed, here I am asking – what is my best bet for radios to build a UHF repeater? I’m currently looking at a Hamtronics receiver/exciter pair with