[Repeater-Builder] Does anyone else think of Power Factor like SWR?

2008-09-17 Thread kb9bpf
Since I'm way more into RF than industrial power distribution, I've always been able to think of power factor on the electrical power grid in terms similar to antenna system reflections, which are commonly measured in terms of SWR. After all, both are AC systems where the voltage and current

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Cavity interconnection cable length

2008-09-17 Thread Jeff DePolo
SO what I'll do is use the VNA to measure the loop's XL, calculate a starting point for coax lengths based upon it, and make a few other cables which are slightly different in length. Then I'll see what works best. The problem is that the XL of the loop in free space (unloaded) really

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Volt-Amp (Re: APC UPS Charging Power)

2008-09-17 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Spinning disk meters are becoming a thing of the past. However, I believe that very few utilities are billing residential customers for kVAR. Many do charge residential demand and time-of-day rates. Eric, you may want to comment further. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - As I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] APC UPS Charging Power

2008-09-17 Thread no6b
At 9/15/2008 16:03, you wrote: Bob, All standard residential utility meters read out in kilowatt hours. That is the basis for their tarrifs and billing. You are charged on the actual kilowatt hour use. The ups reading lower on actual battery operation MAY mean the charger is disabled and all you

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Volt-Amp (Re: APC UPS Charging Power)

2008-09-17 Thread Jim Brown
I have a site where for many years the only load was a battery charger feeding a battery to power up the equipment.  For many years the power meter DID NOT MOVE!  It started moving when I substituted a GE Mastr II base station power supply with backup battery. My theory (correct me if I am

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Volt-Amp (Re: APC UPS Charging Power)

2008-09-17 Thread Chuck Kelsey
More likely the meter simply failed to register well on light loads. It doesn't happen with the newer meters. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Jim Brown To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:06 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Volt-Amp

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Volt-Amp (Re: APC UPS Charging Power)

2008-09-17 Thread WD7F - John in Tucson
Thank you Eric Lemmon ! Your explanation is the most precise I've read thus far. The last line of your last paragraph said what folks want to hear. I started to respond to this thread earlier, but after a few minutes of organizing my thoughts, my aging pea-brain said, Forget this and go get

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Cavity interconnection cable length

2008-09-17 Thread kb9bpf
Excellent points, Jeff, and well taken. Too many subtle interactions for a concise solution. Still, some night in the near future when things are running smoothly and all we're doing is babysitting things, I'll run some tests with the VNA and see if measuring the XL of the loop and

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Swap my CAT300 for your Zetron 38A

2008-09-17 Thread dave_g7uzn
Any 'non-messers' out there? Cheers Dave UZN --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, dave_g7uzn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There may be some that think that I have lost my mind! but I would like to swap my working CAT300 with copy of manual for a working

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Cavity interconnection cable length

2008-09-17 Thread ka1jfy
One of our engineers had a factory tour of EMR. They did NOT calculate critical cable lengths, rather they had a pile of various length cables that they swapped in until it met specs. They were NOT optimized. That same engineer finally got a SWAG from them that the loops in the EMR cavities

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Cavity interconnection cable length

2008-09-17 Thread Kerincom
Hi guys .just been following this thead .When you talk about 1/4 wavelength is there a formula available to make these coax lengths. I found a calculator and I am wondering if this is the right one http://www csgnetwork.com/freqwavelengthcalc.html Going off that 1/4 wavelength for my coax's

[Repeater-Builder] Double-checking Andrews connectors with CableWave Heliax

2008-09-17 Thread Ray Brown
    Howdy! We're getting ready to move a repeater to a taller, more robust home. We have access to a run of CableWave 1 5/8 Heliax. Here's our question:     Will an Andrew H7PNF work with CableWave HCC158-50J170 Heliax? If not, what Andrew connector will work with CableWave HCC158-50J170 Heliax?

[Repeater-Builder] FS: MSF5000 VHF Repeater

2008-09-17 Thread rande1
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Does anyone else think of Power Factor like SWR?

2008-09-17 Thread Mark Harrison
Yes, SWR is a problem for long power distribution lines, but only the very long ones. There was a case I think in Canada where they ran into this problem. The transmission lines from one side of the continent to the other was an odd multiple of a quarterwave (1,250 km). Since a quarterwave acts

[Repeater-Builder] Micor TPN1110A power supply parts ID

2008-09-17 Thread kk2ed
Good Evening, I am trying to repair two TPN1110 power supplies. One has bad caps; the other has bad rectifier diodes CR1 and CR2. I tried looking up the part #s in the manual via Motorola Online, but the numbers are invalid (no suprise!). Anyone have any recommendations as to a suitable

[Repeater-Builder] Volt-Amp (Re: APC UPS Charging Power)

2008-09-17 Thread Laryn Lohman
Hi Mark, I'll weave some comments--- I've always understood poor power factor to be a problem because the generator and distribution system needs to carry higher currents to deliver the same energy into a poor load. That's a problem because the power companies either suffer higher resistive

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Volt-Amp (Re: APC UPS Charging Power)

2008-09-17 Thread Doug Zastrow
Eric, Kudos on a great explanation Doug - Original Message - From: Eric Lemmon To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:59 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Volt-Amp (Re: APC UPS Charging Power) John, You are correct that when the

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Does anyone else think of Power Factor like SWR?

2008-09-17 Thread Laryn Lohman
To answer the question, I don't. Look at it this way. The AC supply to your house, for example, is a low impedance; it can supply hundreds of amps (the transmitter). The 100 watt lamp (antenna/load) in your house is a relatively high impedance compared to the supply. There is no impedance

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Double-checking Andrews connectors with CableWave Heliax

2008-09-17 Thread Gerald Pelnar
Ray, Those Andrew connectors will not fit. The configuration of the inner conductor is different. I do not know if Andrew makes a compatible connector. I have a few Cable Wave N Male and female connectors. Contact me off the list. for what it's worth Andrew connectors will fit cable wave in

[Repeater-Builder] Kendecom Mark 4 crystals

2008-09-17 Thread collincollier
Group, I have a set of crystals for a Kendecom (MCS) Mark 4 repeater which I no longer need. T145.210 - R144.610 Let me know if you are intersted maybe for trade or sale or... Collin