Re: [Repeater-Builder] showing our age (old HT's)

2010-07-29 Thread Mike Morris
At 08:19 AM 07/28/10, you wrote: GE PR36, shudder! A brick with wires that easily broke when the case was opened or shut. Not a nice radio to have on the bench. I ran a Portamobile 1 on 52.525 about 10 years ago, guess I'll have to dig it out of the storage and see what shape it's in these

[Repeater-Builder] Fw: TKR750 -Preamp

2010-07-29 Thread Com/Rad Inc
- Original Message - From: Com/Rad Inc To: kenwood_...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 7:39 PM Subject: TKR750 -Preamp Greetings Group Have any of you experimented with a RX pre-amp for the TKR 750 repeater? I am seeking results of actual trials of a product -

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: TKR750 -Preamp

2010-07-29 Thread Ken Arck
At 04:30 AM 7/29/2010, Com/Rad Inc wrote: ubject: TKR750 -Preamp Greetings Group Have any of you experimented with a RX pre-amp for the TKR 750 repeater? I am seeking results of actual trials of a product - Anyone care to comment on their experience(s) ? We use AngleLinear PHEMT preamps

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Base station coax connector weatherproofing recommendations?

2010-07-29 Thread Jeff DePolo
I think you (Skipp) may be confusing 130C with one of the other 3M products. 130C is the self-vulcanizing (self-amalgamating?) tape. It has no adhesive; it's not sticky or gooey; itt doesn't leave any residue. In fact, it doesn't even leave a black stain on connectors like regular vinyl

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: TKR750 -Preamp

2010-07-29 Thread Doug Hutchison
Where does one obtain these and at what cost? Doug On 29/07/2010 15:58:54, Ken Arck (ah...@ah6le.net) wrote: At 04:30 AM 7/29/2010, Com/Rad Inc wrote: ubject: TKR750 -Preamp Greetings Group Have any of you experimented with a RX pre-amp for the TKR 750 repeater? I am

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Measure return loss and cable fault with HP 8924C

2010-07-29 Thread Dickson
Hi, Thanks for your info. Though a bit complicated, it is still doable. By the way, how to measure the cable fault location without the 11807 software? Thanks and Regards, Dickson Fu VR2WHF --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, ve7fet yahoogro...@... wrote: First you'll need a return

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: TKR750 -Preamp

2010-07-29 Thread Ken Arck
At 10:30 AM 7/29/2010, Doug Hutchison wrote: Where does one obtain these and at what cost? http://www.anglelinear.com Chip Angle is arguably one of the top 10 RF guys in the world Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: TKR750 -Preamp

2010-07-29 Thread Steven M Hodell
Another very good choice for this application is the GLB Preselector / Preamp from Simrex Corp. I have several of these deployed on 144 / 220 / 440 Amateur repeaters and they all perform very well. They can be tuned to maximize gain or selectivity per your requirements and their support is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: TKR750 -Preamp

2010-07-29 Thread Doug Hutchison
Thank you both. Doug On 29/07/2010 19:34:24, Steven M Hodell (st...@shodell.net) wrote: Another very good choice for this application is the GLB Preselector / Preamp from Simrex Corp. I have several of these deployed on 144 / 220 / 440 Amateur repeaters and they all perform very well.

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 420Mhz Radio for Voter?

2010-07-29 Thread Tim - WD6AWP
Those CDM radios are a bit pricy at $550 each. But I appreciate the suggestion. And you've given me some ideas. I still like the idea of building an out of band repeater for the remote receive site from a Micor chassis. I would need a 406-420 exciter, bandpass filter and trippler. If anybody

[Repeater-Builder] Re: 420Mhz Radio for Voter?

2010-07-29 Thread Tim - WD6AWP
I emailed Spantek. They told me they don't do Micor's any more. CW Wofle appears to not be in business as I can't find them on the web. Any other ideas where I might find some UHF low split Micor parts? --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris wa6...@... wrote: Look at W6KGBs

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Moving a MSF5000 from 800 to 900 Ham

2010-07-29 Thread Bill
I have move the800 mhz chunk to 900 ham operation wide dev. I have not had time to test the pa's to see how happy they can be tricked to efficient operation. The chunk is the easy part, getting those 150 and 75 watt 800 pa's may result in a lot of hair on the floor. . Bill Atlanta --- In

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Moving a MSF5000 from 800 to 900 Ham

2010-07-29 Thread Bill
I have move the800 mhz chunk to 900 ham operation wide dev. I have not had time to test the pa's to see how happy they can be tricked to efficient operation. The chunk is the easy part, getting those 150 and 75 watt 800 pa's may result in a lot of hair on the floor. If some one wants to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 420Mhz Radio for Voter?

2010-07-29 Thread Oz-in-DFW
On 7/29/2010 2:36 PM, Tim - WD6AWP wrote: I emailed Spantek. They told me they don't do Micor's any more. CW Wofle appears to not be in business as I can't find them on the web. Any other ideas where I might find some UHF low split Micor parts? If it's got to be Micor it's hamfest

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: TKR750 -Preamp

2010-07-29 Thread Steven M Hodell
More great info from Frank @ SIMREX. Steve ~ KA1RCI - Original Message - From: Frank Neuperger To: fr...@simrex.com Cc: Steven M Hodell ; maqui Mike Aquilino ; sa...@simrex.com Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: TKR750 -Preamp Steve,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 420Mhz Radio for Voter?

2010-07-29 Thread Glenn (Butch) Kanvick
Hello Tim. I just looked in my storage site and I found a Micor Base/Repeater which is on the band split of 402-430 MHz. I do not have channel elements for it. I know it was working when it came out of service a few years ago, and the PA can be used as a digital station, as it takes the four pin

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: TKR750 -Preamp

2010-07-29 Thread Jack Chomley
This unit looks like the answer for me..I think! I am in the process of building 2 repeaters on 70cm for possible emergency use by our Amateur Radio Club. Both will be very portable, I have Vertex VX-2200 radios for one, Hamtronics T304/R306 boards for the other. In keeping the units very

[Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-750 RF Preamplifiers

2010-07-29 Thread skipp025
Re: TKR-750 RF Preamplifiers Com/Rad Inc com-...@... wrote: Have any of you experimented with a RX pre-amp for the Kenwood TKR-750 repeater? Yeah, once or twice... I am seeking results of actual trials of a product - 'bout killed myself once trying a Thighmaster... Anyone care to

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Simrex - GLB Pre-Selector Pre-Amplifier

2010-07-29 Thread skipp025
Re: Simrex - GLB Pre-Selector Pre-Amplifier The Simrex (aka GLB) units are actually amplified pre-selector assemblies, not just plain wide-band Receive Pre-Amplifiers. There's a reason why these units offer/spec 8dB Gain versus the others un-protected preamps. The less obvious gain when

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: TKR-750 RF Preamplifiers

2010-07-29 Thread Doug Hutchison
Some man sir..TU Doug On 29/07/2010 22:31:49, skipp025 (skipp...@yahoo.com) wrote: Re: TKR-750 RF Preamplifiers Com/Rad Inc com-...@... wrote: Have any of you experimented with a RX pre-amp for the Kenwood TKR-750 repeater? Yeah, once or twice... I am seeking results of

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: TKR750 -Preamp

2010-07-29 Thread no6b
At 7/29/2010 11:34, you wrote: Another very good choice for this application is the GLB Preselector / Preamp from Simrex Corp. I have several of these deployed on 144 / 220 / 440 Amateur repeaters and they all perform very well. They can be tuned to maximize gain or selectivity per your

[Repeater-Builder] Intermod study for a site with spread spectrum equipment located on it

2010-07-29 Thread Joe
Does anyone know who would do an Intermod study for a site that has 900MHZ spread spectrum on it? I have done some very basic intermod runs, but don't quite know how to handle spread spectrum nor who to refer to for this service. Any ideas? Thanks, Joe, K1ike

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Simrex - GLB Pre-Selector Pre-Amplifier

2010-07-29 Thread no6b
At 7/29/2010 14:59, you wrote: Re: Simrex - GLB Pre-Selector Pre-Amplifier The Simrex (aka GLB) units are actually amplified pre-selector assemblies, not just plain wide-band Receive Pre-Amplifiers. There's a reason why these units offer/spec 8dB Gain versus the others un-protected preamps. The

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Simrex - GLB Pre-Selector Pre-Amplifier

2010-07-29 Thread Jack Chomley
On Jul 30, 2010, at 9:31 AM, n...@no6b.com wrote: At 7/29/2010 14:59, you wrote: Re: Simrex - GLB Pre-Selector Pre-Amplifier The Simrex (aka GLB) units are actually amplified pre-selector assemblies, not just plain wide-band Receive Pre-Amplifiers. There's a reason why these units

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: TKR750 -Preamp

2010-07-29 Thread Com/Rad Inc
Hello Doug Pre amplifiers are nifty gadgets. In my email I am seeking some personal references about this particular radio and a pre-amp which may have been tried wioth some level of success. When you start inserting GAIN ahead of a front end you have to be careful of overloading the system

[Repeater-Builder] Adjusting low power on an R1225 repeater

2010-07-29 Thread Joe
Hello to All, I want to turn the power down on my Motorola R1225 repeater to about 5 watts. It is the high power UHF version (25-45 watts). The reason for the low power is to drive a power amp at the output I want to achieve. Any drawbacks to running the R1225 this low? 73, Joe, K1ike

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Adjusting low power on an R1225 repeater

2010-07-29 Thread Eric Lemmon
Joe, Yes, indeed! The UHF high-power version will likely either go spurious or burn up if set that low. The only way to go with the radio you have is to add a 6 or 10 dB power attenuator rated at no less than 25 watts, and set your TX power at the low end. Admittedly, this is a kluge of the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adjusting low power on an R1225 repeater

2010-07-29 Thread Joe
Thanks Eric, I though there was a caveat to turning it down, but couldn't remember why. I want to experiment with an EchoLink repeater, but I'm not sure that the R1225 UHF hi power could hold up at 25 watts continuous duty. I think I'll do some shopping as you suggest. 73 and Thanks, Joe

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Simrex - GLB Pre-Selector - Preamp

2010-07-29 Thread skipp025
n...@... wrote: ...but what is the noise figure? I'm going to ask this every time someone says they perform very well. Bob NO6B Depends on the Pre-Selectors Generation and options. The original active device could be one of a few different types. After a period in time a GasFet upgrade

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Adjusting low power on an R1225 repeater

2010-07-29 Thread Scott Zimmerman
If you have a spectrum analyzer, be sure and check it for spectral purity. *Most* radios don't like to have their power cut back that far. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Road Boswell, PA 15531 Joe wrote: Hello to All, I want to turn the power down on my

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Simrex - GLB Pre-Selector Pre-Amplifier

2010-07-29 Thread no6b
At 7/29/2010 16:52, you wrote: Yes, but the NF is unpublished unknown. I therefore assume it's poor, maybe 3 dB? A Chip Angle GaAsFET @ UHF has 0.5 dB NF. Put a 1/4 wave pass cavity with 0.5 dB loops in front of it you have a narrow 1 dB NF front-end. I'll take 1 dB NF over 3 dB NF any day.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Simrex - GLB Pre-Selector - Preamp

2010-07-29 Thread no6b
At 7/29/2010 19:04, you wrote: The Noise Figure is not always the most important specification. s. OK, I have an RFPA for sale that performs very well. And that's all I'm going to say about it. ;) Without a NF spec, it's impossible for an RF system designer to determine if the device is

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Adjusting low power on an R1225 repeater

2010-07-29 Thread Robert McNeill
Is there an issue running one of those at 25 watts continuous? It is a repeater. What was it's intent if not to be used in a heavy duty cycle? 73, Robert K5ILS _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Thursday, July

[Repeater-Builder] FS GE Master II UHF Repeater ready to play

2010-07-29 Thread K5IN
I am selling a GE Mastr II UHF repeater already set up for the Arcom RC210 controller. GE preamp installed and crystaled up for 441.950 with a ts64 board installed. 75 watt PA and it is ready to go. No, this is not a repeater builder built repeater but otherwise is a good condition machine.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 420Mhz Radio for Voter?

2010-07-29 Thread James Adkins
I disagree on the price of the CDM's. You can get the CDM-750 (4-channel) for as low as $75 to $125 if you watch for them on e-bay. The CDM-1250 and CDM-1550 are more expensive used, but still you should be able to get them for $250 or less if you just have to have the 128 channels and alpha

RE: [Repeater-Builder] GE Mobile Radio

2010-07-29 Thread Eric Lemmon
Charlie, This is a tough one. The Y prefix indicates an RCC duplex radio, and the ER42M and ET59L indicate a Mastr Progress Line 35 watt radio for the 450-470 MHz band. I wonder if the 80 you quoted might actually be 88? Better double-check the Combination Number to make sure you're reading it

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Adjusting low power on an R1225 repeater

2010-07-29 Thread Eric Lemmon
Robert, The R1225 was never intended to be used in a heavy duty application. When marketed in its GR1225 desktop configuration, it was presented as a light-duty, local-area repeater for construction sites and similar low duty-cycle applications. Since the GR1225 included a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater transmit levels at the receiver?

2010-07-29 Thread Tim
Hi guys, Took some time away from the project... loosing too many hairs. Ok, I've gotten another receiver strip, and it has the specified sensitivity per Mot. Guess I want to bounce some ideas around with those of you who are more learned in the arts! With 250mW (+24dBm) into the transmit

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 420Mhz Radio for Voter?

2010-07-29 Thread Tim Sawyer
What's it take to program those radios? -- Tim :wq On Jul 29, 2010, at 8:45 PM, James Adkins wrote: I disagree on the price of the CDM's. You can get the CDM-750 (4-channel) for as low as $75 to $125 if you watch for them on e-bay. The CDM-1250 and CDM-1550 are more expensive used, but

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Measure return loss and cable fault with HP 8924C

2010-07-29 Thread ve7fet
See page five for an explanation of the process... http://206.209.106.106/datasheets/Miscellaneous/54100a-4.pdf Again, doable, but messy. Lee --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Dickson dicksonf...@... wrote: Hi, Thanks for your info. Though a bit complicated, it is still doable.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 420Mhz Radio for Voter?

2010-07-29 Thread James Adkins
Any windows PC with a serial port, an aftermarket or real Motorola cable and software. On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Tim Sawyer tisaw...@gmail.com wrote: What's it take to program those radios? -- Tim :wq On Jul 29, 2010, at 8:45 PM, James Adkins wrote: I disagree on the price

[Repeater-Builder] OT- Dispatcher injured by lightning strike

2010-07-29 Thread tracomm
A dispatcher was treated for electrical shock on May 2 after lightning sent a power surge through the dispatcher's headset. http://richmondregister.com/localnews/x1255109983/Lightning-surge-injure\ s-911-dispatcher http://richmondregister.com/localnews/x1255109983/Lightning-surge-injur\

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Digest Number 7357

2010-07-29 Thread burkleoj
I never saw the highly modified HT-200 of Dick's but I have heard stories of the infamous Drinkie-Talkie (as I heard it referred by) from Neil WA6KLA several times over the years. I remember that Dick's 2m repeater was great to use and listen to in the Mid 70's on my trips into the LA area.