Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna ID

2010-09-03 Thread Russ Hines
I guess no one noticed the connector is an SO-239, not N. 73, Russ WB8ZCC On 9/3/2010 4:44 PM, La Rue Communications wrote: Perfect. Thanks Leroy! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - *From:*

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax length, etc.

2010-08-15 Thread Russ Hines
. ;-) Oh, BTW, the emperor has no clothes either. :-P 73, Russ WB8ZCC On 8/14/2010 10:11 PM, Kevin Custer wrote: Russ Hines wrote: Some related comments, if you don't mind. Temperature changes seem to be the biggest detuner of largely mechanical devices like cavity duplexers. We often send our

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax length, etc.

2010-08-15 Thread Russ Hines
I see some folks are heading for the Advil. My apologies. Thanks, Gary, for admitting the 43 doesn't measure power directly. One myth down. Of course, it is a directional coupler, no argument. That makes it a reflectometer, it enables the instrument to isolate forward/reflected samples

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax length, etc.

2010-08-15 Thread Russ Hines
Last round. Hi again, Gary. ;-) On 8/15/2010 7:09 PM, Gary Schafer wrote: Hi again Russ, *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Russ Hines *Sent:* Sunday

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax length, etc.

2010-08-15 Thread Russ Hines
*From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Russ Hines *Sent:* Sunday, August 15, 2010 7:37 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax length, etc. Last

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax length, etc.

2010-08-14 Thread Russ Hines
That's because there are as many rules as there are thumbs. ;-) I don't know about anyone else, but I can tell you about the highly scientific method I use. I start with a multiple of 1/2 electrical wavelength and trim as necessary. I'd stay away from an odd-multiple of 1/4 wavelength in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax length, etc.

2010-08-14 Thread Russ Hines
Some related comments, if you don't mind. Temperature changes seem to be the biggest detuner of largely mechanical devices like cavity duplexers. We often send our repeaters off to live in less-than-ideal environments, then expect cavity input/output impedances to remain as we measured them

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax length, etc.

2010-08-14 Thread Russ Hines
Sid, I think I found your formula. Look on page 62 of: http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/pdf/ve2azx-duplexerinfo.pdf BTW, my guess was wrong. Length is expressed in inches. 73, Russ WB8ZCC On 8/13/2010 1:44 PM, Russ Hines wrote: Hmm, the formula is a bit off, but... 30 x 32.785

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Coax length, etc.

2010-08-13 Thread Russ Hines
Hmm, the formula is a bit off, but... 30 x 32.785 = 983.55. I'll also bet length is expressed in feet. Looks eerily like someone wants you to cut a one-wavelength piece of coax cut at the mean repeater frequency. Just a guess. 73, Russ WB8ZCC On 8/13/2010 11:38 AM, Sid wrote: I have a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax length, etc.

2010-08-06 Thread Russ Hines
Jeff was correct to question. I was vague. What I should have said was indicated reflected power, not VSWR. But good luck trying to determine an accurate VSWR based on erroneous reflected readings. Let the boo birds squawk. Keep questioning, Jeff. 73, Russ WB8ZCC On 8/6/2010 1:07 PM,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax length, etc.

2010-08-05 Thread Russ Hines
Thanks, guys, a good topic and one that always seems to come up. And it sparks more questions and comments, of course. The cable length issue is a brother to if you don't like your VSWR, change the point along the transmission line where you're measuring it. By changing the length of the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Coax length, etc.

2010-08-05 Thread Russ Hines
Thanks for the reply, Kevin. I'm looking forward to seeing the article. 73, Russ WB8ZCC On 8/5/2010 1:20 PM, Kevin Custer wrote: Russ Hines wrote: Thanks, guys, a good topic and one that always seems to come up. And it sparks more questions and comments, of course. The cable length

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted Radio Communications Service Monitor

2004-08-18 Thread Russ Hines
an older Singer, Marconi, or Cushman service monitor, you can't hardly go wrong with these in good shape and working order. As they say, YMMV. 73, Russ Hines WB8ZCC - Original Message - From: Roger Ewing [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re:Question for the group

2004-08-12 Thread Russ Hines
HI Bob: You can sit for the GROL test by contacting one of the "testing agents" listed on the FCC website. The list includes NARTE, ISCET, NRE (National Radio Examiners) among others. You'll also need to pony up anywhere from $40 to $80 to take the test. 73, Russ WB8ZCC -

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Question for the group

2004-08-11 Thread Russ Hines
Hi Frank: The First Class Radiotelephone Operator's License was replaced with the General Radiotelephone Operator's License nearly 20 years ago. Approximately equivalent to the old 2nd Class license, the GROL is only needed for aviation, marine, and international public fixed stations. These