Re: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower

2005-03-09 Thread Fred Seamans
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower Sometimes the system has not read the physics book! I once worked with four PHD's, 3 out of four said I would never make a circuit work, one abstained. I did make it work, and it worked better than the one the PHD's came up

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower

2005-03-09 Thread Paul Finch
-Original Message- From: Fred Seamans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 6:59 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower Please do not down grade all engineers. Some of us with degrees realize that the real world

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower

2005-03-08 Thread CookTowersInc
1st off that was not a put down! I will not blow my on horn but I can say if it works for you then use it. BUT! It is not how antenna physics work. Just think how much better a system will work when we do not try to change the laws and rules of antenna physics? Dean Westbrook, EE,PE

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower

2005-03-08 Thread Joe Montierth
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1st off that was not a put down! I will not blow my on horn but I can say if it works for you then use it. BUT! It is not how antenna physics work. Just think how much better a system will work when we do not try to change the laws and rules of antenna

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower

2005-03-08 Thread Mike Perryman
AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1st off that was not a put down! I will not blow my on horn but I can say if it works for you then use it. BUT! It is not how antenna physics work. Just think how

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower

2005-03-08 Thread k1eg
happen. Mike K1EG - Original Message - From: Joe Montierth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1st off that was not a put down! I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower

2005-03-08 Thread Joe Montierth
happen. Mike K1EG - Original Message - From: Joe Montierth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1st off that was not a put

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower

2005-03-08 Thread Kevin Custer
Joe Montierth wrote: Dean specified 100ft AAT, which takes into account the ground elevation, thats not very high off the ground. I own a 140 ft tower, with antennas that have relatively high gains. I can sit at the bottom of the tower (which should be the worst null) and still hear and get

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower

2005-03-08 Thread Paul Finch
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower Joe Montierth wrote: Dean specified 100ft AAT, which takes into account the ground elevation, thats not very high off the ground. I own a 140 ft tower, with antennas that have relatively high gains. I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower

2005-03-07 Thread CookTowersInc
Hello All, And good Monday morning! Sorry for my delay but I do not work every week end. The reason for the 8 DBd on the flag pole support is as most of us know they compress the pattern the higher the gain and flag pole supports are not that high. If you go to high in gain your coverage

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower

2005-03-07 Thread Paul Finch
ubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower Hello All, And good Monday morning! Sorry for my delay but I do not work every week end. The reason for the 8 DBd on the flag pole support is as most of us know they compress the pattern the higher the gain and flag pol

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower

2005-03-05 Thread Joe
It should work, but do not skip on any of the antenna system components. Maintenance on a flagpole site can be a nightmare and very expensive. The last one I got involved in required a crane, man-basket, and ended up in an OSHA fine. This was just to replace some defective jumpers. Who is

[Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower

2005-03-04 Thread bbedoe
Hello All, Has anyone had the opportunity to be inside a disguise antenna tower? A cell company is proposing to erect a Flag pole at the site I'm at with itscell antennas, and the UHF users inside the Pole. The pole is a 20 inch diameter fiberglass pole with mounts inside the tower for

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower

2005-03-04 Thread CookTowersInc
Hello All, We install many of the flag pole antenna supports as well as the pine tree supports here at work. You will be fine with your 440 Ham band antenna. But watch your gain. In DBd do not go any higher then 8 DBd. Plus no down tilt. Have fun! Dean Westbrook, EE,PE.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Inside a Flag pole Tower

2005-03-04 Thread Paul Finch
the "no-down tilt" on a low site like a cell tower. I have to admit, I missed the start of the thread. Paul -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 5:14 PMTo: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Build