i picked your reply to keep the topic going
atv down here in florida in the space coast has been chased off
up to 900 mhz
there is a real good reason for this
the destruct sequencer uses freqs below the amateur bands on uhf
the mars probes and oher deep space projects also use uhf 431mhz?
for
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm
Band
The premise is common sense, but, as you say, this is the government.
Where would *you* put TV transmitters if not in the TV bands?
Joe M.
David Jordan wrote
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And what happens if they deploy it in a municipality where there's a 4.9 GHz
mesh network [like Phoenix, AZ
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180455347338
Just sent some pointed questions to the seller. Hope this is NOT the device.
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That IS the item... ReconRobotics' website has the disclaimer that the
device has not received FCC authorization may not be sold.
:44 PM
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That IS the item... ReconRobotics' website has the disclaimer that the
device has not received FCC authorization may not be sold
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What are you missing? The fact that it should be in bands where TV is
authorized, and not in a band where it will be subject to random
instances of interference from a service that has
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I just read the FCC order.I don't see a significant threat to amateur radio
UHF
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In my view this opens the door to other encroachments on our frequency
allocations.
The premise is common sense, but, as you say, this is the government.
Where would *you* put TV transmitters if not in the TV bands?
Joe M.
David Jordan wrote:
I don't think there is any premise or as you say, ...fact that it should be
in the bands where TV is authorized... is relevant.
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Richard,
The FCC has always had that option to re-assign spectrum.you use the term
our frequency which implies you think we have some implied rights to
utilize the spectrum. We have no rights, just
On 3/4/2010 1:54 PM, David Jordan wrote:
I just read the FCC order.I don't see a significant threat to amateur radio
UHF communications from this device.
It's operating on a ham band at more than flea power-maybe as much as
several watts. How can it NOT interfere? Trust me, it WILL! It
] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm
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The premise is common sense, but, as you say, this is the government.
Where would *you* put TV transmitters if not in the TV bands?
Joe M.
David Jordan wrote:
I don't think there is any premise or as you say, ...fact that it should
I'm an HFer.Interference doesn't bother me ;-)
_
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: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm
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Dave, You speak exactly what I would have said here. I recall the same angst
and irritation when the lower end of 220 was lost to United Parcel Service
and other entities if there were any. That turned out to be much
2.4 GHz, there are numorous TV transmitters already designed that
operate here, 2 of the 4 channels common channels fall on the ham band
and are often converted for ATV use.
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:42 PM, MCH m...@nb.net wrote:
The premise is common sense, but, as you say, this is the
It suffices to say there are lots of good answers, and none of them are
the 440 band. And, there is obviously existing spectrum for these
devices, so their waiver should have never been granted.
As far as the eBay auction, there ARE legal users of these devices - US!
(hams)
I can see it now -
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, David Jordan wrote:
My guess is the manufacturer doesn?t have the technology or funding
needed to build the cheaply made, significantly over priced crawling
camera to operate in the GHz ranges.
My bet is that the manufacturer got a deal on some 433MHz camera modules
from
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, David Jordan wrote:
My guess is the manufacturer doesn?t have the technology or funding
needed to build the cheaply made
On 3/4/2010 11:54 AM, David Jordan wrote:
What am I missing?
That there are other bands specifically set aside for this business
purpose, perhaps? :-)
Nate WY0X
On 3/4/2010 1:58 PM, David Jordan wrote:
I'm an HFer...Interference doesn't bother me ;-)
We'll notify your local power company that they can fire up BPL on your
block, effective immediately. :-)
(GRIN!)
Nate WY0X
At 3/4/2010 13:45, you wrote:
It suffices to say there are lots of good answers, and none of them are
the 440 band. And, there is obviously existing spectrum for these
devices, so their waiver should have never been granted.
As far as the eBay auction, there ARE legal users of these devices - US!
, 2010 6:18 PM
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Band
On 3/4/2010 1:58 PM, David Jordan wrote:
I'm an HFer.Interference doesn't bother me ;-)
We'll notify your local power company that they can fire up BPL on your
block, effective immediately
Not to mention the local CB'ers running a killowatt near your home! LOL!
Don, KD9PT
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From: Nate Duehr
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 5:18 PM
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At 3/4/2010 13:45, you wrote:
Doesn't matter; the legal world is ruled by precedents. This sets an
unhealthy one. And NTIA/Military has spoken up on the matter -- did
you see the section in the order where the device would not be operated
within so many miles of several AFBs, which are known to
Laryn and others,
Here is the link to the RO #08-63 . Please notice the dates on this-it
was in 2008... I do not think that the FCC should grant this at all, but we
need to let our representatives know both at the ARRL, FCC and
senators/congresscritters know that we find this encroachment
Until they start bringing up ATV repeaters, The common input
frequencies are 439.25, 434.0, 433.25, 427.25 and 421.25.
Now, see the channel assignments for the analog video? Since the video
carrier is 1.25 MHz above the bottom of each channel, we can predict where
most of the energy is going
: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC RO Involving the Amateur 70cm Band
Laryn and others,
Here is the link to the RO #08-63 . Please notice the dates on this-it was
in 2008... I do not think that the FCC should grant this at all, but we need to
let our representatives know both at the ARRL
Dave,
I was looking for it on the FCC website, and I saw nothing. Would be very
interesting reading. I would also enjoy reading of the internal docs at
ReconRobotics.
Phil
KK6PE
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Regarding the orginal RO, does
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Regarding the orginal RO, does anyone have access to the comments that were
received by the FCC
Anyone have a real link to this? Those of us on the Web do not get
attachments...
Laryn K8TVZ
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, George Henry ka3...@... wrote:
Re: the waiver request by ReconRobotics for 420 - 450 MHz operation.
Hams get the shaft again...
George, KA3HSW /
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of larynl2
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Anyone have a real link to this? Those of us on the Web do not get
attachments...
Laryn K8TVZ
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UMM..
Was just perusing eBay. Guess what I found
Search on Recon Scout in cameras an photos!
Is this the same device?
So much for part 90 licensing.
Jason, WA1NH
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, MCH m...@... wrote:
Except for the fact these users will be
Got the auction number?
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:30 PM, wa1nh wa...@arrl.net wrote:
UMM..
Was just perusing eBay. Guess what I found
Search on Recon Scout in cameras an photos!
Is this the same device?
So much for part 90 licensing.
Jason, WA1NH
--- In
180455347338
Just sent some pointed questions to the seller. Hope this is NOT the device.
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, DCFluX dcf...@... wrote:
Got the auction number?
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:30 PM, wa1nh wa...@... wrote:
UMM..
Was just perusing eBay. Guess what I
Well if this is it I had guessed on the Price But close I will Get that
little Sucker with My 440 HT
http://tinyurl.com/yeyccyk
Who will be the First do get the WARA Award Worked all Robot Award
73 De Don KA9QJG
Got the auction number?
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:30 PM,
Actually the DOD has been using these for some time and several
bomb disposal robots used higher power than these in the 440 band.
I know, I had and used several before retiring.
I am not worried as much about the interference to US.
Weak signals and short duration events.
What I am more
On that note I should point out that most explosives devices don't
like being exposed to RF.
And AM NTSC video tends to get into a bunch of stuff with the sync pulses.
I think this warning appears in most mobile radio manuals and is
posted around blasting sites.
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:12 PM,
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