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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: LMR Cable
What is the difference between real and un-real RG214? And what is the
problem with RG-142?
lh
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 6:24 PM, NORM KNAPP
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On Mar 7, 2010, at 4:46 PM, Larry Horlick wrote:
So in a duplex application, if the supply of the better cable is limited,
it's better to use it on the rx side?
I think other folks have said this as well, but the answer is... if the supply
of the right kind of cable to do the job is
LMR and similar cables are not rated for low PIM
What exactly do you mean by PIM ?
rffun
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Indeed. I'll read the archives. Thanks.
73
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Chuck Kelsey wb2...@... wrote:
The
Passive Intermodulation. Things like rusty hardware or disimilar metals can
cause it in the presence of RF.
From: rffun radio...@her.forthnet.gr
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Passive Intermod. In other words, it tends to be a source in which intermod
can be generated easily.
Chuck
WB2EDV
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: LMR
. trouble when used
duplex.
Dan
k8plw
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From: Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: LMR Cable
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Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 4:56 PM
Passive Intermod. In other words
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: LMR Cable
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Passive Intermod. In other words, it tends to be a source in which intermod
can be generated easily.
Chuck
WB2EDV
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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: LMR Cable
Any problems with RG-214 or RG223 for duplexers/multi
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Any problems with RG-214 or RG223
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Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 5:54 PM
Any problems with RG-214 or RG223 for duplexers/multi- couplers/ combiners?
lh
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Any problems with RG-214 or RG223 for duplexers/multi
not had this problem but it is a documented issue.
Dan
k8plw
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Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 6:24 PM
What
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From: Larry Horlick llhorl...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: LMR Cable
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Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 6:46 PM
So in a duplex application, if the supply of the better cable is limited,
it's better to use
] On Behalf Of Larry Horlick
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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: LMR Cable
Any problems with RG-214 or RG223 for duplexers/multi-couplers/combiners?
lh
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Dan Saputo dan17...@yahoo.com
mailto:dan17
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From: Larry Horlick llhorl...@...
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: LMR Cable
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 6:24 PM
What is the difference between real and un-real RG214? And what is the
problem with RG-142?
lh
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 6:24
I believe that the real problem is that the center conductor is solid. A
slight nick in it will eventually cause it to break due to cable flexing
fatigue at the weak point. RG-400 is often used instead and has a stranded
center conductor.
Chuck
WB2EDV
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Spec
What is the difference between real and un-real RG214?
There are some non-mil-spec RG214 varients out there. Sometimes they are
labeled as RG214 TYPE, or RG214 Commercial. These typically have double
braid like real RG214, but unlike real RG214, the braids are bare copper
instead of
The cables in duplexers are not under movement so the nick would not be the
issue there. The nick does expose the steel which is a ferro-magnetic material
that will cause intermodulation to occur at a much higher level. Plus, the
insertion loss will increase at that point and if there is a lot
of
this Group.
73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
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Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 3:05 PM
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Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: LMR Cable
Nope
OK Guys
My two dollar question is:
How to determine whether the braids are silver or tin coated,
without taking into consideration the brand/name on the sheath,
or have I missed the fine print in this discussion? :)
73 John/VK4JKL
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Whoops. Should have said no movement and I should have changed the
subject
line.
Chuck
And I wonder how many of these no movement scenarios actually suffer
from slowly decreasing sensitivity in their
-Builder] Re: LMR cable
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Whoops. Should have said no movement and I should have changed the
subject
line.
Chuck
And I wonder how many of these no movement scenarios actually suffer
from slowly decreasing
Hi Laryn,
Another war story also told over here some time back. One UHF box
we have in service went numb after about 3 months. Checked everything
out to spec... even the feedline looked good on fwd and reflected power.
After a lot of head scratching...
We replaced the 4 month old LMR-400
Andrew has a technical paper that compares Heliax to braid-foil cables
at:
http://www.andrew.com/search/BN_SP30-27.aspx
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wrote:
All this talk of LMR cable
Motorola also put out a white paper on braid-over-foil cable and pointed
out it's problems in a duplexed system. They did not specifically name LMR
cable, but it was obvious that they were talking about it and others.
Joe
At 10:48 PM 1/29/2007 +, you wrote:
Andrew has a technical
ok, what's the paper called? Is it posted on MOL? If so, what folder is
it in?
Gary
Joe wrote:
Motorola also put out a white paper on braid-over-foil
cable and pointed out it's problems in a duplexed system. They did
not specifically name LMR cable, but it was obvious that they were talking
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