[Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-03 Thread Wayne
We had a similar problem using a Kenwood radio with switching or pin diodes that was on APRS. The repeater and the APRS radio were on DB224's very close to each other. The repeater has 6 cans and the aprs had 1 band pass can. Neither system interfered with the other but we soon discovered we

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread David
First of all you do not have enough isolation between antennas with only two wavelenghts horizonal seperation. A single bandpass cavity will not be enough. I would try 2 bandpass/bandreject cavities. Reject set for the TX freq and the other set for the RX freq. I believe that RF from your

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread Paul Plack
Can you receive through a circulator without heavy losses? I've never tried it... - Original Message - From: David To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 1:31 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread DCFluX
: Can you receive through a circulator without heavy losses? I've never tried it... - Original Message - *From:* David dep...@starband.net *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2009 1:31 PM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread depley
:31 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed First of all you do not have enough isolation between antennas with only two wavelenghts horizonal seperation. A single bandpass cavity will not be enough. I would try 2 bandpass/bandreject

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread Kris Kirby
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, dep...@starband.net wrote: I believe you are right. Simplex is difficult with a circulater. Can you receive through a circulator without heavy losses? I've never tried it... Older Micor mobiles had a built-in circulator and a T/R relay. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread Oz-in-DFW
Only on UHF. VHF was a lowpass filter. Kris Kirby wrote: On Mon, 2 Nov 2009, dep...@starband.net mailto:depley%40starband.net wrote: I believe you are right. Simplex is difficult with a circulater. Can you receive through a circulator without heavy losses? I've never tried it...

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread Ken Arck
At 12:31 PM 11/2/2009, David wrote: Most people used a simple mobile for aprs which creates alot of headaches where several transmitters are used. They just dont have the filtering needed for this application. You should also use a circulator on your aprs radio. This will help keep RF out of

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread Ken Arck
I am a firm believer that anyone who deploys ANY transmitter on a mountaintop (or any multi transmitter site) should be shot. ---Darn it.. What I meant is that I am a firm believer that anyone who deploys ANY transmitter on a mountaintop (or any multi transmitter site) WITHOUT A

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread skipp025
never tried it... - Original Message - From: David To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 1:31 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed First of all you do not have enough

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread Paul Plack
I guess there are some sites noisy enough that losing 30 dB wouldn't affect S/N... ;^) - Original Message - From: skipp025 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 4:29 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread bullmus
Thanks for the input folks! I missed a couple critical pieces of information that are about to get me shot! ;-) Our FM Voice repeater is running through a 6-cavity duplexer. The APRS setup had a single cavity, tuned to the 144.39 APRS frequency. I am assuming this single cavity is acting

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread Jason Parks
Thanks for the input. I missed a couple critical pieces of information. The FM Voice repeater is running through a 6-cavity duplexer. The APRS setup had a single cavity, tuned to the 144.39 APRS frequency. I am assuming this single cavity is acting as a low pass filter to prevent the voice

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread Joe
Jason Parks wrote: Noise and desense are one thing, but the popping and crackling when trying to hook the antenna to a powered off radio, I'm assuming that the popping and crackling that you are hearing is on the active repeater? If so, that is what one can expect if you change things in

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread Ken Arck
At 04:40 PM 11/2/2009, Joe wrote: The repeater might be getting into the PA stage of the APRS radio. Try powering off the APRS radio during the time that you hear the weird noise. I would bet that the noise goes away as soon as the APRS radio in powered off. ---Power is irrelevant as the PA

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread Jeff DePolo
The repeater might be getting into the PA stage of the APRS radio. Try powering off the APRS radio during the time that you hear the weird noise. I would bet that the noise goes away as soon as the APRS radio in powered off. What kind of radio is being used for APRS? If it's something

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed

2009-11-02 Thread k7pfj
] Re: Weird Interference between APRS and 2-M repeater help needed I am a firm believer that anyone who deploys ANY transmitter on a mountaintop (or any multi transmitter site) should be shot. ---Darn it.. What I meant is that I am a firm believer that anyone who deploys ANY