Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct??

2006-12-31 Thread Kevin Custer
-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Doug Zastrow *Sent:* Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:23 PM *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct?? Bill, What source and load impedance

[Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct??

2006-12-31 Thread skipp025
Hmmm... I always thought that the resistor was on the input side. Y'all sure this circuit is correct as it is above? Ken Arck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---You're right. The cap should be on the load side of the resistor, not the disc. side. In a receiver de-emph circuit like the GE Master

[Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct??

2006-12-31 Thread skipp025
You have the facilities to do it, and you have the test equipment to prove it. I'll let you do the work. The time constant equation is the same, if you put the capacitor in front or behind the resistor. In fact: You could put a 7.5K in front of, and a 7.5K behind the capacitor to

[Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct??

2006-12-31 Thread skipp025
So, how about we use a source impedance of 100 ohms, and an audio range of 50 to 5000 cycles.. . . How many peole know the source impedance of the discriminator circuit? With many commercial circuits... the output is a custom made chip by Motorhead, GE, Kenwood or similar. The word we

[Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct??

2006-12-31 Thread skipp025
Kevin Custer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, if the AP-50 is sourced by a driver of 100K, the knee would be down to about 725 cycles. You wouldn't want your pre-emphasis to end at 725 cycles. Based on some of the audio I've heard from a few.. even brand-new out of the box radios... it

[Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct??

2006-12-31 Thread Ryan
This topic is very intersting, with out getting into big $ with the audio eq the simulcast solutions sells. start out with a basic resistor 100k or 6.8k on the output tx audio to reduce the loading effects i had this problem with a scom 7k to a motorola cdm 750 with the flat audio it took a

[Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct??

2006-12-31 Thread nj902
Henry, I see no problem here. You have a voltage plot. It shows approx 2.0 V @ 500 Hz, 1.0 V @ 1000 Hz, and 0.5 V @ 2000 Hz In voltage terms - twice [or half] the voltage change does represent 6 dB - so - your circuit is working fine and would graph as a straight line [with the expected slope]

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct??

2006-12-31 Thread Kevin Custer
This is something that many times gets lost in translation, and is very important to remember. You have covered something that I was going to touch on, but now I don't have to... Thanks, Kevin Custer nj902 wrote: /_*In voltage terms - twice [or half] the voltage change does represent 6 dB*_/

[Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct??

2006-12-31 Thread nj902
I have uploaded an image to the yahoo repeater builder photos that shows a sweep of the 10 K ohm + 0.22 uF [in series] deemphasis circuit. The analyzer's generator is driving the top of the resistor with low impedance [600 ohm] and the analyzer is measuring across the cap with a high impedance

[Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct??

2006-12-30 Thread Laryn Lohman
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Disc. 15K 0-/\/\/\/\/\0 output | | .2 uf. (point 2

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct??

2006-12-30 Thread Ken Arck
At 04:25 PM 12/30/2006, you wrote: Hmmm... I always thought that the resistor was on the input side. Y'all sure this circuit is correct as it is above? ---You're right. The cap should be on the load side of the resistor, not the disc. side. As for the question about PREemphasis, the cap is in

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct??

2006-12-30 Thread Bill Hudson
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct?? At 04:25 PM 12/30/2006, you wrote: Hmmm... I always thought that the resistor was on the input side. Y'all sure this circuit is correct as it is above? ---You're right. The cap should

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct??

2006-12-30 Thread Doug Zastrow
-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Arck Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 4:38 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct?? At 04:25 PM 12/30/2006, you wrote: Hmmm... I

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct??

2006-12-30 Thread Bill Hudson
@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Zastrow Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:23 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: audio equalizers for repeater audio-circuit correct?? Bill, What source and load impedance are you looking