RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Stationmaster Pd-220

2008-11-15 Thread G Shaw
Hi Ryan Kevin is on the money, with antenna discussions connected with repeaters very welcome to be sure. A couple of suggestions before anything else is tried. If you want to see if you have a broken antenna solder joint you can test the antenna easily, especially since you have such a short

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Stationmaster Pd-220

2008-11-15 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 06:51 11/15/2008, G Shaw wrote: Assuming about 80 feet of run at VHF you have added well over 3 db of loss, which of course means your system is going to be deaf on rcv and way down on xmt Glenn, I am confused. Us DX folks think 3db is about a factor of two in ERP, so that would be like

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Stationmaster Pd-220

2008-11-15 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 06:51 11/15/2008, G Shaw wrote: Assuming about 80 feet of run at VHF you have added well over 3 db of loss, which of course means your system is going to be deaf on rcv and way down on xmt Glenn, I am confused. Us DX folks think 3db is about a factor of two in ERP, so that would be like

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Stationmaster Pd-220

2008-11-15 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 08:13 AM 11/15/08, you wrote: At 06:51 11/15/2008, G Shaw wrote: Assuming about 80 feet of run at VHF you have added well over 3 db of loss, which of course means your system is going to be deaf on rcv and way down on xmt Glenn, I am confused. Us DX folks think 3db is about a factor of

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Stationmaster Pd-220

2008-11-15 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- On Sat, 11/15/08, G Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: G Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Stationmaster Pd-220 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, November 15, 2008, 9:51 AM Hi Ryan One other point. You stated that you changed feedline

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Stationmaster Pd-220

2008-11-15 Thread Eric Lemmon
] OT: Stationmaster Pd-220 At 06:51 11/15/2008, G Shaw wrote: Assuming about 80 feet of run at VHF you have added well over 3 db of loss, which of course means your system is going to be deaf on rcv and way down on xmt Glenn, I am confused. Us DX folks think 3db is about a factor of two in ERP, so

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Stationmaster Pd-220

2008-11-15 Thread Kevin Custer
I agree with Dave, a 3 dB change may be noticeable, but not to the degree Glenn states. Kevin Custer At 06:51 11/15/2008, G Shaw wrote: Assuming about 80 feet of run at VHF you have added well over 3 db of loss, which of course means your system is going to be deaf on rcv and way down on

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Stationmaster Pd-220

2008-11-15 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 09:11 11/15/2008, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: This might be of interest http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/3db.html Mike WA6ILQ Thanks, Mike. Your page said: 3 dB will make a very noticeable difference if the signal is well into the noise, I believe I said that

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Stationmaster Pd-220

2008-11-15 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 09:11 11/15/2008, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote: This might be of interest http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/3db.html Mike WA6ILQ Thanks, Mike. Your page said: 3 dB will make a very noticeable difference if the signal is well into the noise, I believe I said that

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Stationmaster Pd-220

2008-11-15 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 11:21 11/15/2008, Eric Lemmon wrote: The output power of a repeater has relatively little effect on its coverage; it's how well it receives that is important. A 3dB reduction in the repeater's received signal strength can be significant, And you get an improvement in receiving ability by