Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna Gain Specs

2007-02-21 Thread Steve Bosshard \(NU5D\)
Well I have gone back to Decibel catalogue 23. Older books discarded. I am pretty sure that at one time the DB224 was rated at 4.5 dBd, and then later at 6 dBd., but this is from memory, I can't find an older catalogue. Regarding a clean and shiny antenna, we had a discussion at coffee. The

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna Gain Specs

2007-02-21 Thread Gary Schafer
: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna Gain Specs Well I have gone back to Decibel catalogue 23. Older books discarded. I am pretty sure that at one time the DB224 was rated at 4.5 dBd, and then later at 6 dBd., but this is from memory, I can't find an older catalogue. Regarding a clean and shiny

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna gain specs

2007-02-20 Thread Jim B.
Paul Holm wrote: Reading the replies that mentioned gain specs, I can't help but think of our last ham club meeting. An older member persuaded the club to replace the VHF repeater antenna with a Diamond X500HNA rather than a DB-224 because the Diamond has 8.3 dB gain. And even worse is

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna gain specs

2007-02-20 Thread Gary Schafer
Can you name any of the two way antenna manufacturers that do? 73 Gary K4FMX -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wright, Skywarn Coodinator Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 8:52 AM To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna gain specs

2007-02-20 Thread Bob Dengler
At 2/20/2007 07:11 AM, you wrote: Paul Holm wrote: Reading the replies that mentioned gain specs, I can't help but think of our last ham club meeting. An older member persuaded the club to replace the VHF repeater antenna with a Diamond X500HNA rather than a DB-224 because the Diamond

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna gain specs

2007-02-20 Thread Steven Samuel Bosshard \(NU5D\)
What I don't understand is how at times the DB224 is rated at 4.5 dBd, then 6 dBd, and the DB304 (twice as much aluminum) rated at 6.1 dBd. over a span of 30 years...de nu5d

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna gain specs

2007-02-20 Thread w5zit
But don't mount it upside down. The base is not waterproof when inverted - I learned that the hard way! 73 - Jim W5ZIT -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 3:19 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna gain specs

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna gain specs

2007-02-20 Thread Gary Schafer
-Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laryn Lohman Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 5:59 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna gain specs --- In

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna gain specs

2007-02-20 Thread Steven Samuel Bosshard \(NU5D\)
I belive the double dipole (304) was supposed to have a more omni-directional pattern (the books show a 'normalized' pattern) - I will have to dig out some old DB Products catalogs, or call Lloyd Alcorn in Waco (he designed the 224 for DB before he and Kit Parsons and Larry Bush started Wacom

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna gain specs

2007-02-19 Thread Paul Holm
Reading the replies that mentioned gain specs, I can't help but think of our last ham club meeting. An older member persuaded the club to replace the VHF repeater antenna with a Diamond X500HNA rather than a DB-224 because the Diamond has 8.3 dB gain. - Original Message - From: Jim

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna gain specs

2007-02-19 Thread N9WYS
I believe Diamond uses gain over **isotropic** (dBi) for their rating specs... which might account for the extra ~2.2dB. (If memory serves me the difference between dBi and dBd is about 2.2 - yes?) This is one reason to be careful about what the respective company is using for their

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna gain specs

2007-02-19 Thread Gary Schafer
-Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laryn Lohman Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 8:27 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna gain specs --- In

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna gain specs

2007-02-19 Thread Maxwell D Pratt
Sometimes if you just ask the question Relative to what! All manufactures don't base there Gain spec on Unity Gain of a Dipole, Some have there own Base Spec , and nobody knows what it is , I am always leery of companies that tend to always have the most of everything . The Company I worked

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna gain specs

2007-02-19 Thread no6b
At 2/19/2007 17:27, you wrote: --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Paul Holm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reading the replies that mentioned gain specs, I can't help but think of our last ham club meeting. An older member persuaded the club to replace the VHF repeater antenna with a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Antenna gain specs

2007-02-19 Thread no6b
At 2/19/2007 17:51, you wrote: I believe Diamond uses gain over **isotropic** (dBi) for their rating specs... which might account for the extra ~2.2dB. (If memory serves me the difference between dBi and dBd is about 2.2 - yes?) 2.12 dB, to be exact. This is one reason to be careful about what