Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far

2010-04-26 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010, George wrote: well this amplifier is rated 90 watts you can see it on e-bay just type powerwave in the search. it has error eliminating computer inside and no distortion what so ever. i have it modified and use it at 450 watts and i pushed it with two power supplys that

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far

2010-04-26 Thread Kris Kirby
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010, Joe wrote: Just be careful. At the ERP antenna output levels that you are playing with and frequencies involved, things can get dangerous for human exposure. Anything above 50W, an OET 65 RF Field Study must be done. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far

2010-04-26 Thread La Rue Communications
9:40 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far Sent the program to George, Bon Hal. If anyone else wants a copy you can ask myself or them. Please do not post It in a file section on any groups, (I look in those), It's copyrighted. It's nothing fancy

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far

2010-04-26 Thread Kris Kirby
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, George wrote: i looked at the pdf that you refering and there is requirements for mesuring if the signal is more powerful than 1640 watts and the antenna is 10 meters or less accessibel by people...my antenna is more than 10 meters above the closest person and the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far

2010-04-26 Thread Dan KC2BEZ
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Kris Kirby k...@catonic.us wrote: On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, George wrote: i looked at the pdf that you refering and there is requirements for mesuring if the signal is more powerful than 1640 watts and the antenna is 10 meters or less accessibel by people...my

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far

2010-04-25 Thread kevin valentino
me know how you like it. I have another that's great for calculating transformers and other such good junk.   Enjoy --- On Sat, 4/24/10, kevin valentino kevinvalentino@ ... wrote: From: kevin valentino kevinvalentino@ ... Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far To: Repeater

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far

2010-04-25 Thread daniel haines
1 more request for your program. Thanks, Dan KF8DB To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: kevinvalent...@sbcglobal.net Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 21:40:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far Sent the program to George, Bon Hal. If anyone else wants a copy you can

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far

2010-04-25 Thread kevin valentino
...@hotmail.com wrote: From: daniel haines ridet...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, April 25, 2010, 9:30 AM   1 more request for your program. Thanks, Dan  KF8DB   To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com From

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far

2010-04-25 Thread Andrew Seybold
And one more please W6AMS Andy Thanks From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of daniel haines Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 6:31 AM To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far 1 more request

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far

2010-04-25 Thread Richard
] On Behalf Of kevin valentino Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 9:40 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far Sent the program to George, Bon Hal. If anyone else wants a copy you can ask myself or them. Please do not post It in a file section on any

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2010-04-25 Thread Bill Smith
Depending on the frequency of the site, they might only be putting out 5 watts of transmit power. Rural sites run more power, and taller antennas to get better range. In a City, they just don't need or want huge amounts of power because it will prevent reuse of the frquencies or cause what's

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far

2010-04-25 Thread Joe
The typical cell site is probably running a 10 watt amplifier with an ERP of about 100 watts. City sites probably a lot less power. Your in the high power paging transmitter class. Physical damage can be done in the nearby horizontal field of the antenna using this much power and antenna

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far

2010-04-25 Thread Chuck Kelsey
With all due respect, I think the question most have in their minds is what are you doing that requires 450 watts at 800 MHz? Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: George gueorg...@yahoo.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 4:08 PM Subject:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far

2010-04-25 Thread Joe
Your saying that you took a 90 watt amp and modified it to 450 watts? This does not sound believable... The amp you have is possibly a B band analog amp. 90 watts may have been used at the cell site to overcome the combining losses that are involved in putting multiple transmitters on a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far

2010-04-25 Thread Joe
I think your original post said that your antenna would be about 30-40 feet off the ground. Unfortunately, power cannot make up for a low antenna very well. You would need to get your antenna above the surrounding structures and foliage to have an effective system. If your house is on a

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2010-04-25 Thread Gary Schafer
It sounds like you have a linear amplifier. Linear amplifiers are used when multiple low power transmitters are to be amplified by one amplifier. The peak power (actually peak envelope power) capability of the amplifier must be quite high in order to handle the multiple signals without generating

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far

2010-04-25 Thread Gary Schafer
I am not saying that you are misleading anyone. I am just pointing out to all that the amplifier, if intended for multiple low power transmitter amplification, is indeed capable of rather high power output. 500 watts PEP output with multiple transmitters fed to it is certainly capable of 500

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far

2010-04-24 Thread kevin valentino
OK there is a cute little program that actually comes fairly close to calculating effective radio range based on height, power, line loss(has a cable database), and frequency. Add the cavity losses in with the line loss. Calculate the portable at 6 feet, unity gain, using worst case terrain

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2010-04-24 Thread Bon Hal
-Builder] Re: how far OK there is a cute little program that actually comes fairly close to calculating effective radio range based on height, power, line loss(has a cable database), and frequency. Add the cavity losses in with the line loss. Calculate the portable at 6 feet, unity

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far

2010-04-24 Thread kevin valentino
the NYB, wish me luck --- On Sat, 4/24/10, kevin valentino kevinvalent...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: kevin valentino kevinvalent...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 9:00 PM   OK there is a cute

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far

2010-04-24 Thread kevin valentino
...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 10:31 PM   Allright just found the darn program. Was on an older machine. Norton picks up a virus, ARRGH, so i will remove it and send it to ypu. You can share