Cheap P25 repeater using mobile rigs (was: Re: [Repeater-Builder] New file uploaded to Repeater-Builder)

2007-12-28 Thread Nate Duehr
On Dec 27, 2007, at 11:46 AM, Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the Repeater-Builder group. File: /Simple P25 Repeater /

Re: Cheap P25 repeater using mobile rigs (was: Re: [Repeater-Builder] New f...

2007-12-28 Thread N9LLO
In a message dated 12/28/2007 4:24:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The disadvantages are many, but the main one is in that the digital signal is converted to analog and then back to digital, and the resulting double-vocoded audio which has been put through two

Re: Cheap P25 repeater using mobile rigs (was: Re: [Repeater-Builder] New f...

2007-12-28 Thread kb3fsr
I have 2 Maxtracs Setup that I use for P25 Didgital . Works Well to me . Now it does not ack like a Motorola Quentar or Other P25 Digital Repeaters , But It Works . It just allows you to pass the P25 Digital Pakets from the Radio you are using , and the Other Users Radios Decode it .This

Re: Cheap P25 repeater using mobile rigs (was: Re: [Repeater-Builder] New f...

2007-12-28 Thread kb3fsr
I have 2 Maxtracs Setup that I use for P25 Didgital . Works Well to me . Now it does not ack like a Motorola Quentar or Other P25 Digital Repeaters , But It Works . It just allows you to pass the P25 Digital Pakets from the Radio you are using , and the Other Users Radios Decode it .This

Re: Cheap P25 repeater using mobile rigs (was: Re: [Repeater-Builder] New f...

2007-12-28 Thread Nate Duehr
On Dec 28, 2007, at 3:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/28/2007 4:24:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The disadvantages are many, but the main one is in that the digital signal is converted to analog and then back to digital, and the resulting

Re: Cheap P25 repeater using mobile rigs (was: Re: [Repeater-Builder] New f...

2007-12-28 Thread kb3fsr
This is only a Quick setup. I would prefer a real P25 Digital Repeater , But this Setup Works . You can go to Ebay and Get Motorola Astro Sabers or a XTS-3000 And Others . But you haft to get one that is IMBE P25 . VSLEP Is not Allowd on Ham Bands . IMBE Is Allowd for Ham Use . And it sounds

Re: Cheap P25 repeater using mobile rigs (was: Re: [Repeater-Builder] New f...

2007-12-28 Thread Nate Duehr
p.s. Yes, I'm fishing a bit with this message. I stood around and looked stupid while a local good digital engineer (and RF guy) and another good RF engineer discussed this idea once, and they both expressed interest but no time to work on it right now. Anyone who knows how to go about this

[Repeater-Builder] GLB Preselector

2007-12-28 Thread ldgelectronics
Anyone know the device number of the gaasfet (or whatever type it is) in the P-145 model? Inherited one with -12 db gain. Looks easy enough to fix. Thanks, Dwayne Kincaid WD8OYG

[Repeater-Builder] Re: UHF duplexers and preamps

2007-12-28 Thread aceblaggard
Hi Guys, Thanks for the replies on this, my curiousity about the pre amp is based on my limited knowledge that you can't improve what you can't already hear so I wasn't too sure how much benefit they actually give. We are lucky in as much as our site has no other users and the nearest UHF site is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB Preselector

2007-12-28 Thread Kevin Custer
I'm assuming you mean preselector - preamp. At that frequency, they were usually made with a bipolar transistor, unless it was custom made; then it could be a GaAs device. It is a MRF-901 (or equivalent) if it is bipolar. Many times only 901 appeared on the device, if it wasn't ever changed.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB Preselector

2007-12-28 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 03:49 AM 12/28/07, you wrote: Anyone know the device number of the gaasfet (or whatever type it is) in the P-145 model? Inherited one with -12 db gain. Looks easy enough to fix. Thanks, Dwayne Kincaid WD8OYG I fixed one years ago with a Siliconix U-310, but I have no doubt that there are

Re: [Repeater-Builder] GLB Preselector

2007-12-28 Thread Joe
I have a GLB Model P-147.49 that was custom made for me years ago. It use an MRF901 device. 73, Joe, K1ike ldgelectronics wrote: Anyone know the device number of the gaasfet (or whatever type it is) in the P-145 model? Inherited one with -12 db gain. Looks easy enough to fix. Thanks,

[Repeater-Builder] Mitrek Transmitter Tuning

2007-12-28 Thread Richard Bessey
Repeater-Builder Guru's, I am trying to tune up the transmitter on one of my Mitrek's and am having no luck and alot of frusteration. I have the motorola manual and the cheat sheets here: http://www.repeater-builder.com/mitrek/pix/mitrek-tx-tuning.gif The question is, what do I need to measure

[Repeater-Builder] Manual

2007-12-28 Thread Randy
Anyone know where I can obtain the manual for GE LBI #4100 ? It is not found in: The 'Mastr' Index of GE LBI's

[Repeater-Builder] Re: National Radio Quiet Zone

2007-12-28 Thread Mike Perryman
I have known Wes for about 15 yrs. He's a good dude!! Mike Perryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7839 Ashton Avenue Manassas, Virginia 20109-2883 Download Outlook Contact Info 703.392.9090 General Office 703.392.9559 Facsimile

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek Transmitter Tuning

2007-12-28 Thread Bob M.
Almost all Motorola radios use a 50 micro-amp DC meter. Sometimes the negative end goes to ground, sometimes the positive end. The metering test set will have a meter reversal switch on it to flip the leads. You can use almost any 50uA meter. Most of the time you're just peaking various stages,

[Repeater-Builder] Re: R1225 repeater

2007-12-28 Thread skipp025
Just ordered the Service Manual per Eric's information (thank you Eric) and the part number works mucho fine. The price today is $14.40 per copy plus any tax and ground shipping. cheers, skipp Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, You should order a copy of the R1225 service

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek Transmitter Tuning

2007-12-28 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 05:10 PM 12/27/07, you wrote: Repeater-Builder Guru's, I am trying to tune up the transmitter on one of my Mitrek's and am having no luck and alot of frusteration. And I guarantee you will ruin the PA deck (all it takes is one click) unless you read the caution in my interfacing article about

[Repeater-Builder] Re: GLB Preselector

2007-12-28 Thread ldgelectronics
Thanks, This one had different marking, but could have been changed. I'll put a 901 in it and see how it does. Dwayne --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a GLB Model P-147.49 that was custom made for me years ago. It use an MRF901 device.

[Repeater-Builder] RLC-Mot and Optocoupler for COR - Not Working Correctly.

2007-12-28 Thread Gmail - Home
Hi All, Hope you had a good Christmas, and looking forward to the New Year. Anyway my question. I have a RLC-MOT installed in my Mitrek 10mtr RX, and have also fitted a optocouple to isolate the radio from the controller (RLC-2A) I have used the circuit from the Mitrek pages in

[Repeater-Builder] Anybody have a FM Magazine collection?

2007-12-28 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
While answering KE7IODs question on tuning a radio I realized that having a scan of the old Build Yourself A Moto Test Set article would be, to use a Martha Stewart term, A Good Thing. So is there anybody out here that has a FMM collection and a scanner? Or the critical issue and a xerox machine?

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Stop the Madness

2007-12-28 Thread Doug Dickinson
I still don't understand why people object to two repeaters - properly designed - cannot share the same channel? With separate PL tones and limited hand time, they can complement each other. The use of a coordinator that assigns a channel based on antiquated criteria is still providing

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Stop the Madness

2007-12-28 Thread Eric Lemmon
Doug, Two repeaters operating on the same frequency pair but with different PL tones is essentially a community repeater that will have the same disadvantages. A community repeater is fine for infrequent users in the agricultural, delivery, and towing services, for example. The chances for

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Stop the Madness

2007-12-28 Thread Nate Duehr
On Dec 28, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Doug Dickinson wrote: I still don't understand why people object to two repeaters - properly designed - cannot share the same channel? With separate PL tones and limited hand time, they can complement each other. No one here objects to this -- it happens all

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anybody have a FM Magazine collection?

2007-12-28 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
I'm all for that. We're using less than 10 of a 200 gig RAID array on the server. If anybody has copies of FMM or of rpt I'll be happy to get them scanned and on the server. Mike WA6ILQ At 09:48 AM 12/28/07, you wrote: What would also be interesting to have as scanned files on a CD or

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: R1225 repeater

2007-12-28 Thread n9wys
Thanks Skipp and Eric... I broke down today and ordered the manual myself. Again, thanks! Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of skipp025 Just ordered the Service Manual per Eric's information (thank you Eric) and the part number works

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Stop the Madness

2007-12-28 Thread Randy
---your not talking about two repeaters in differant towns with the same frequency and differant pl's? I believe your talking about about 2-repeaters in the same town? Cause I do know that frequency coordinators do set the same frequencies on repeaters within a 200 mile radius, which does cause

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anybody have a FM Magazine collection?

2007-12-28 Thread Wesley01
Hi Mike, Have an FM Repeater collection(think it is complete). Back in the 60's, but do not have a way to scan them. Enjoyed them very much. Wonder what happened to Ken Sessions Michael J.Van Den Branden. Sad to see it disapear. Wesley AB8KD

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Stop the Madness

2007-12-28 Thread Maire-Radios
we have had repeaters on the air in the past and Motorola has put a repeater in town with the same Freg. time and time again. It is a common thing just happen last year to a repeater we have in TN. new repeater 20 miles away same Freg. don't get mad over it, just the way it is. John

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Stop the Madness

2007-12-28 Thread Paul Plack
If your goal in building a repeater is the experience and education it brings, and the chance to see how users react to your particular philosophy, could you live with having it on the air every other day to get a coordination 10 years sooner? I think that would work for most hams. If you share

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Stop the Madness

2007-12-28 Thread Jim Brown
Our club operates two repeaters on the same channel using two different tones, and all works fine. In our case, we wanted to have instant backup in case one repeater went down (one is solar powered) and all the user had to do was switch tone frequencies and use the other repeater. They are not

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GLB Preselector

2007-12-28 Thread Joe
Here is a few photos of what mine looks like. The circuit board is labeled on the top P40-500. 73, Joe, K1ike ldgelectronics wrote: Thanks, This one had different marking, but could have been changed. I'll put a 901 in it and see how it does. Dwayne .

[Repeater-Builder] TX RX Systems Model Number Nomenclature

2007-12-28 Thread fineshot1
Anyone know where I can find the model number decoding matrix for the TX RX product lines? I have been through there web site and they dont seem to offer much info on this subject? If you have any idea where I can find this info please email me at my address on qrz.com as I do not get emails from

[Repeater-Builder] re-quiet zone-how we deal with it

2007-12-28 Thread greenfin2002
living and working at ground zero so to speak has advantages and disadvantages. we dont have to deal with pagers and alot of other interference that alot of you deal with. on the other hand cell phone service in this county is poor at best. most all repeater owners as well as local hams

[Repeater-Builder] Musty Book Magazine collection

2007-12-28 Thread skipp025
Re: Musty Book Magazine collection I love old Ham Radio Books and Magazines more than most people but those old magazines cover some pretty musty technology and equipment. The sad part about the FM-Repeater subject is how little new information is available in book form. If you're going

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek Transmitter Tuning

2007-12-28 Thread Jim Miller WB5OXQ in Waco
I have a meter that I removed from a Mitrek based paging transmitter that I used to tune Mitrek mobiles when I built repeaters out of them. It has the plugs on the ends of the wires for the receiver and transmitter as well as the function and meter reverse switch on it would sell it if anyone

[Repeater-Builder] RLC-Mot and Optocoupler for COR - Not Working Correctly.

2007-12-28 Thread kerincom2
I Am not sure which diagram you are looking at but when I connect a opto to A transistor, the base of the output transistor (I.e. 2n)connects to the Emitter or collector (depending how you wish the output transistor to work ) Of the opto transistor.Over here I set them up all the time to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anybody have a FM Magazine collection?

2007-12-28 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 02:00 PM 12/28/07, you wrote: Hi Mike, Have an FM Repeater collection(think it is complete). Back in the 60's, but do not have a way to scan them. Enjoyed them very much. Wonder what happened to Ken Sessions Michael J.Van Den Branden. Sad to see it disapear. Wesley AB8KD Mike Van Den

Re: [Repeater-Builder] TX RX Systems Model Number Nomenclature

2007-12-28 Thread wa6ilq
At 06:55 PM 12/28/07, you wrote: Anyone know where I can find the model number decoding matrix for the TX RX product lines? I have been through there web site and they dont seem to offer much info on this subject? If you have any idea where I can find this info please email me at my address on

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Mitrek Transmitter Tuning

2007-12-28 Thread sgreact47
The accual meter circuit IS one volt full scale at 50uA. The Motorola test sets all used a 19K (give or take) resistor in series with the 50uA meter. That = 20K resistance. Measurements are refered to the 0 to 50 scale. Richard Bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question is, what do I need

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Anybody have a FM Magazine collection?

2007-12-28 Thread wb6ymh
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 02:00 PM 12/28/07, you wrote: Hi Mike, Have an FM Repeater collection(think it is complete). Back in the 60's, but do not have a way to scan them. Enjoyed them very much. Wonder what happened to Ken

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater conversion

2007-12-28 Thread Randy
Thankyou Eric for this information. Would anyone know where I can find the LBI-4100 ??? I have already searched The 'Mastr' Index of GE LBI's, The 4100 is not listed. . . . In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Eric Lemmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Randy, There's nothing to convert; the