Re: [Repeater-Builder] New repeater Motorola or MA/COM

2007-04-30 Thread Nate Duehr
On 4/30/07, Tim S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wow, did that get a response! Ask and ye shall receive? :-) What I was wondering about was failure rate and serviceability. We're replacing Master II's that have been in operation about 30 years. They have been pretty reliable until recently.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] New repeater Motorola or MA/COM

2007-04-30 Thread Tim S
Wow, did that get a response! What I was wondering about was failure rate and serviceability. We're replacing Master II's that have been in operation about 30 years. They have been pretty reliable until recently. I'd hate to replace them with something new and have nothing but problems.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] New repeater Motorola or MA/COM

2007-04-30 Thread Paul Finch
I worked in a Johnson shop from 1973 to 1983, learned radio there. Learned which Johnson were good and which ones were not. Love the old Fleetcom II 559 and 530 radios. All three of my repeaters on my tower are Fleetcom II's, have not touched any of them in years. The PPL 6060 radios make great

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New repeater Motorola or MA/COM

2007-04-30 Thread Steve Bosshard (NU5D)
Understood - On 4/30/07, Andrew G. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My bad on that one Steve. Meant to only throw it in as 900. We had a need for a high split 900 station 934-950 and could not get a M3. Still fighting Motorola for a Quantar to use there. Due to the frequency pair we have, it overlaps

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New repeater Motorola or MA/COM

2007-04-30 Thread Andrew G.
My bad on that one Steve. Meant to only throw it in as 900. We had a need for a high split 900 station 934-950 and could not get a M3. Still fighting Motorola for a Quantar to use there. Due to the frequency pair we have, it overlaps the two models they make between TX freq & RX Freq, but that

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New repeater Motorola or MA/COM

2007-04-30 Thread Steve Bosshard (NU5D)
Hello Andy, are you meaning the M3 is not made for 800 Mhz., or not dual band (800/900)? The ones I maintain are 800 Mhz. Steve On 4/30/07, Andrew G. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have used, programmed, setup, and interfaced both the Motorola and MA/COM equipment. I like both equally. The Moto

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New repeater Motorola or MA/COM

2007-04-30 Thread Andrew G.
I have used, programmed, setup, and interfaced both the Motorola and MA/COM equipment. I like both equally. The Motorola Quantar is very nice, and everything is self contained. Not big on the MTR2000 station but they are fine as well. The MA/COM MASTR III repeaters are great also. Only drawback

RE: [Repeater-Builder] New repeater Motorola or MA/COM

2007-04-30 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 03:06 PM 04/30/07, you wrote: Hello, Johnson is not what Johnson used to be... Paul And that statement is just the tip of the iceberg... Talk to any long-term Johnson dealer.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] New repeater Motorola or MA/COM

2007-04-30 Thread Paul Finch
Hello, Johnson is not what Johnson used to be... Paul _ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of N9WYS Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 4:42 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] New repeater Motorola or MA/COM

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New repeater Motorola or MA/COM

2007-04-30 Thread Steven Samuel Bosshard \(NU5D\)
Mark, I am sure sorry to hear about the EFJ's going south. That has not been my experience. I have had a couple of VCO's get noisy and one or two power supplies fail, but this is over a 10 year period. I do hope the manufacturer can get this resolved quickly. Steve NU5D

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New repeater Motorola or MA/COM

2007-04-30 Thread Steven Samuel Bosshard \(NU5D\)
Mike, yours is a very good comment, Moto / MA/COM. Probably the best approach would be to compare specifications, and take a good look at each product for serviceablilty. Don't forget EF Johnson - I have 10 or 15 of their VX series, and 5 or 6 M3, and a handful of Kenwood TKR820's and such that I

RE: [Repeater-Builder] New repeater Motorola or MA/COM

2007-04-30 Thread N9WYS
Steve and all, FWIW - We [Will County (IL) EMA] have four EF Johnson base/repeater units installed in a trailer designed for "interoperability" here in Illinois, and we've had nothing but problems with them. First the VHF went south (and were eventually replaced - by Johnson - with mobiles fo

RE: [Repeater-Builder] New repeater Motorola or MA/COM

2007-04-30 Thread Gary Schafer
That reminds me of a time (many years ago) when I worked for Motorola. One of the Motorola salesman was telling some of the other Motorola salesmen about a system he had sold some radios into and how there were some coverage problems. Upon discovering that there were a few GE handheld radios in the

[Repeater-Builder] FS: DB Products DB4076W-A Duplexer - Relisted

2007-04-30 Thread Jim Sheldon - W0EB
Anyone building a UHF repeater, I have a DB Products DB4076W-A rack mount duplexer that was just taken out of commercial service. The repeater was replaced with a new Icom that had a built-in duplexer. It's a 4 cavity bandpass/band reject duplexer and is listed for 450 to 470. I've seen many of th

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New repeater Motorola or MA/COM

2007-04-30 Thread kb3fsr
I'll take Motorola And EF Johnson Repeaters anytime over the Others . Just my Two cents ... lol 73 Steve. EF Johnson Tech Motorola Tech . ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New repeater Motorola or MA/COM

2007-04-30 Thread Mike Morris
At 11:24 AM 04/30/07, you wrote: >Who is making the best repeater these days? Motorola or MA/Com formaly GE? >-- >-Tim That's a flamewar baiting question ! on the same level with politics, religion and sex... You'll find proponents of every brand out there... from Aerotron to the little M

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB420 performance?

2007-04-30 Thread Gary Schafer
> > > the sinclair i saw had the upper lobe broken off the mast, flying in > > the wind.. striking some 6" rigid copper feedline for a tv station! > > your mileage my vary but those antennas arent very neighborly! > > I think you're thinking of the older models. I don't think I have the > uppe

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DB420 performance?

2007-04-30 Thread Nate Duehr
On 4/30/07, Merritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > while i havent used them my self, i have seen them fall apart on a > tower.. the folded dipole sinclair antennas, on the vhf split.. we > have some of their dB counterparts on the same tower, same age or > older, and while electrically the dB antenna

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New repeater Motorola or MA/COM

2007-04-30 Thread Jim B.
N9WYS wrote: > Tim, > Now THAT'S a loaded question. hehehehe > Be prepared - now you'll get responses from Motorola fans, > GE/Ericsson/MA-Com/Tyco fans, Kenwood, et al. So now it becomes a > question of: new vs. old equipment; what purpose of usage (commercial > vs. ham); etc. Ad Nauseum > > M

Re: [Repeater-Builder] New repeater Motorola or MA/COM

2007-04-30 Thread Nate Duehr
On 4/30/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Who is making the best repeater these days? Motorola or MA/Com formaly GE? That would be a question best suited for your favorite religious leader, probably. ;-) First, define: "best"... If all you want is anecdotes, I can personall

RE: [Repeater-Builder] New repeater Motorola or MA/COM

2007-04-30 Thread N9WYS
Tim, Now THAT'S a loaded question. hehehehe Be prepared - now you'll get responses from Motorola fans, GE/Ericsson/MA-Com/Tyco fans, Kenwood, et al. So now it becomes a question of: new vs. old equipment; what purpose of usage (commercial vs. ham); etc. Ad Nauseum Mark - N9WYS

[Repeater-Builder] New repeater Motorola or MA/COM

2007-04-30 Thread safari_tim
Who is making the best repeater these days? Motorola or MA/Com formaly GE? -- -Tim

[Repeater-Builder] Re: DB420 performance?

2007-04-30 Thread Merritt
while i havent used them my self, i have seen them fall apart on a tower.. the folded dipole sinclair antennas, on the vhf split.. we have some of their dB counterparts on the same tower, same age or older, and while electrically the dB antennas have degraded significantly, all the lobes are still

Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB420 performance?

2007-04-30 Thread Nate Duehr
On 4/29/07, kk2ed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it worth the extra money switching to the DB420? I'll throw a comment here... If you're going to spend the big bucks, the heavy-duty Sinclair folded-dipole arrays are also wonderful antennas. Nate WY0X

[Repeater-Builder] Re: T-Band Filter (notch)

2007-04-30 Thread skipp025
Re: T-Band Filter (notch) At first glance there appears to be enough distance between the two frequency ranges. You might get away with a well designed notch network at/in the higher side 482 range. If you were "crafty" you could simply Tee the notch network into your 470-474 feedline.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB420 performance?

2007-04-30 Thread Captainlance
I have had the opportunity to check the db408 with an Anritsu, the antennas seem to have very low VSWR at 442.4, 447.1, 453.4 and the best at 459.8...I don't see why these wont work great throughout the band. Lance N2HBA - Original Message - From: "Paul Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Se

RE: [Repeater-Builder] DB420 performance?

2007-04-30 Thread Paul Finch
Eric, I am using a commercial (450-470 split) antenna at 500 feet and it works great. Be sure and tighten all screws, nuts and clamps and seal all connections before putting it in the air. Paul -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Beh

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micor Repeater Assistance

2007-04-30 Thread Kevin Custer
galaxymap wrote: > Our ARES Group has recently acquired a number of Micor UHF radios that > were in service as commerical repeaters. We are looking to have them > converted to UHF ham frequencies (first frequency already coordinated) > and made serviceable for our group. > > If you are aware of