Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Digest Number 5973

2008-01-07 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
It was a voting system with three 52.76 receivers surrounding the L.A. basin (for us locals, on Palos Verdes, Oat and Johnstone) plus one at the actual voter site, all linked down the voter on 420. A 439 link went up to Mt Wilson, where the actual 52.525 transmitter was (it's now on 52.50 out,

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-07 Thread Kerry
My biggest problem with this whole DTV deal is that you can already apply for those couponds for the converter boxes but nobody seems to carry them or have any info online about them. And you can only get a coupon Between January 1, 2008 and March 31, 2009, while supplies last and they are

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-07 Thread Jamey Wright
Best Buy has them here. Jamey Wright Systems Analyst/EDACS Administrator Morgan County EMCD 911 Decatur, AL 256-552-0911 -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 9:01 AM To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Scotchkoat

2008-01-07 Thread Scott Zimmerman
Use Scotchkoat from 3M to seal the antennas but don’t get it on you, it sticks to you as well as it does the antennas. Any one know of any solvents that can be used to remove it?? I have some on some tools and a spot on my car upholstery (I know, I know) Scott Scott Zimmerman

[Repeater-Builder] Anyone have a Motorola 25-50 MHz MaraTrac Service Manual

2008-01-07 Thread Bob M.
Naturally these are NLA, none are left, no PDF file, nada. P/N 6880102W95 T81X.. series. Anyone have one to sell? An alternative is to get most of one copied. Thanks. Bob M. Be a better friend,

RE: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Scotchkoat

2008-01-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Seems like I remember acetone works. Try it on something unimportant first. Chuck WB2EDV --- Original Message --- From: Scott Zimmerman[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 1/7/2008 12:05:05 PM To : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [Repeater-Builder]

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Scotchkoat

2008-01-07 Thread Paul Guello
Try some citrus based solvent. Scott Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use Scotchkoat from 3M to seal the antennas but don’t get it on you, it sticks to you as well as it does the antennas. Any one know of any solvents that can be used to remove it?? I

[Repeater-Builder] Celwave 5042-1

2008-01-07 Thread Don Spivey
Has anyone had any experience with a Celwave 5042-1 duplexer? I've very skeptical of any rackmount VHF duplexer although specs on the 6 can version (this one) shows it capable of 500kc spacing at 100 watts. I've seen several of these in recent months and mow I'm getting curious. I haven't located

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-07 Thread Hap Griffin
- Original Message - From: kf0m To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 11:01 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda As far as freeing up spectrum, I think it is just semantics. Right now almost all

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Anyone have a Motorola 25-50 MHz MaraTrac Service Manual

2008-01-07 Thread Jim Brown
Contact Rick - [EMAIL PROTECTED] He and KE5MWM converted a bunch of these radios to the six meter ham band, and I think they had several manuals. 73 - Jim W5ZIT --- Bob M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Naturally these are NLA, none are left, no PDF file, nada. P/N 6880102W95 T81X.. series.

[Repeater-Builder] MTR2000

2008-01-07 Thread Gary
Quick question for Eric and others familiar with the MTR's. The 900Mhz MTR has transmitter band limits of 935-941Mhz. It would seem the lower limit must be edited to allow 927Mhz freqs to be programmed. Anyone done this? If so, which version RSS did you edit? Also, which file(s) must be edited?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Scotchkoat

2008-01-07 Thread Tony Faiola
Hello Scott: I have used Scotchkoat a few weeks ago on my 10 meter yagi. To get the stuff offanything else, I use Goof Off, the ultimate remover! I think it was purchased at home depot or Lowe's. It may take the skin off your hands! Tony, K3WX Scott Zimmerman wrote: Use Scotchkoat from 3M

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Scotchkoat

2008-01-07 Thread Bob M.
Actually, Goof Off is rather safe on hands, probably more so than acetone. It's like high-strength lighter fluid. Between that, alcohol, and acetone, something will make a dent in Scotchkoat. Yes, Home Depot sells it in various sizes, and it looks just like an old lighter fluid can. It also does

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Scotchkoat

2008-01-07 Thread Bob M.
I just pulled the MSDS for ScotchKote (note the official 3M spelling of the product). It contains acetone, toluene, and M-E-K, among other nasty chemicals. So at least some of those should help soften it and remove it from unwanted surfaces. Goof Off contains primarily xylene. Bob M. == ---

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Celwave 5042-1

2008-01-07 Thread Gary Schafer
I don't know that particular duplexer. The close spacing capability is not an indication that it is a band pass/band reject or a straight notch type unit. It could be either. The difference in the smaller mobile type or smaller rack mount type duplexers is usually in the insertion loss. The

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-07 Thread MCH
But, how is that related to the transition to digital? The same could have happened with simple channel reassignment. Joe M. Hap Griffin wrote: Actually, there will be a huge amount of spectrum freed up. Currently, the television allocation is from channel 2 through channel 69. After

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-07 Thread DCFluX
The transistion to the 'core' spectrum started happening around 2001, mostly with the low power translators. DTV transistion sounds better in print than Bandwidth snatch. See channels 70-83. I understand that the auctions for the 108 MHz will yield between 1 and 4 billion dollars. At least they

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Scotchkoat

2008-01-07 Thread Barry C'
Any of the usual shop thinner will remove it from metal tools , as for the car I suggest a spot test first or you might do some real damage.. next time drop sheet :) To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 12:05:05 -0500 Subject: Re:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Celwave 5042-1

2008-01-07 Thread allan crites
Don, The manual I have for a Celwave 5042M-1-2-3 does not spec a power rating for use at less than 1.0 MHz of 200 W. It indicates the unit is tunable from 132 to 174 MHz with a band split at 145 MHz requiring different loop assemblies. Since there are 3 ranges I assume there are three

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-07 Thread Nate Duehr
DCFluX wrote: DTV transistion sounds better in print than Bandwidth snatch. See channels 70-83. I understand that the auctions for the 108 MHz will yield between 1 and 4 billion dollars. Since it's only $4 billion we just won't bother looking for it ending up anywhere useful. No one seems

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-07 Thread Hap Griffin
Not really. With the huge power in NTSC analog signals around the visual and aural carriers, as well as the color subcarrier, stations had to be geographically far apart to be able to share channels. Even odd channel pairings such as the taboo relationships whereby stations could not operate

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-07 Thread DCFluX
I am more concerned about what happens to the old analog iron and the antenna. There is a limited market for something considered obsolete by the entire nation. On 1/7/08, Hap Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not really. With the huge power in NTSC analog signals around the visual and aural

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-07 Thread MCH
There are always third world countries... I know the local TV-2 TX is a little too 'hot' for my 6M repeater. ;- But ohhh... to think of a Megawatt 6M machine... then to think of the electric bill... Joe M. DCFluX wrote: I am more concerned about what happens to the old analog iron and the

[Repeater-Builder] New file uploaded to Repeater-Builder

2008-01-07 Thread Repeater-Builder
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the Repeater-Builder group. File: /MSF5000/TLE5772A Yellow Tee Cable for MSF5000.pdf Uploaded by : wb6fly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description : TLE5772A Yellow Tee Cable for

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-07 Thread mung
I am thinking a really nice 6M repeater for some of the old Chan 2 stuff. Vern On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 18:49:27 -0700 DCFluX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am more concerned about what happens to the old analog iron and the antenna. There is a limited market for something considered obsolete by

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-07 Thread Nigel Johnson
Within any 6 MHz channel, there can be up to four program channels. Except if one channel is HDTV 1080i,then there is only enough bandwidth for two other channels. I suppose if a station is cheap enough not to buy the equipment, they would still use the full 6Mz bandwidth for one channel, which,

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Celwave 5042-1

2008-01-07 Thread Eric Lemmon
Don, The Celwave PD5042-1 Duplexer was made in two versions, the PD5042-1-05, and the PD5042-1-50. Both versions are described in the Celwave and Motorola catalogs as dual pass-notch duplexers. The PD5042-1-05, AKA the Motorola RDD4900A, was intended for a minimum TX-RX separation of 500 kHz.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] MTR2000

2008-01-07 Thread Eric Lemmon
Gary, Although I have not worked with the 900 MHz versions of the MTR2000, I doubt that it is possible to tweak the CPS to change the band edges. Both the receiver and the PA have their band ranges embedded into their internal chips, so hacking the CPS cannot change that. Urban legends about

RE: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Scotchkoat

2008-01-07 Thread Paul Finch
Chuck, The best thing to thin it with is MEK (Methyl Ethel Keytone). You can take a can that's almost dried up and restore it to a useable substance. Acetone will clean it off your hands somewhat but dries almost to fast. I found that lacquer thinner works a little better because it does not

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Scotchkote

2008-01-07 Thread Eric Lemmon
Scott, I think you mean 3M Scotchkote. I'd try using Methyl Ethyl Ketone (MEK), Acetone, or Xylene. These are all very aggressive solvents, so care must be used in their use. Once Scotchkote dries, it may be difficult to remove. Chemical-resistant gloves should be worn. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Scotchkoat

2008-01-07 Thread Paul Finch
Unless it has something like lacquer thinner in it there is not a chance of it working. On upholstery I don’t know. It depends on what it is, if it’s plastic based I would be very careful. If it’s a cloth material I would try the lacquer thinner then the MEK. MEK also dries very fast.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Scotchkoat

2008-01-07 Thread Daron J. Wilson
Any one know of any solvents that can be used to remove it?? I have some on some tools and a spot on my car upholstery (I know, I know) I have little spots of that wonderful product on many things, the tops of my tower boots, a few tools, etc. One Klein canvas tower bag had bottle of it

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-07 Thread JOHN MACKEY
Not exactly true. Analog operation for TV in metro areas will cease in Feb 2009. LPTV and translators that are analog will be allowed to continue operating and currently have no sunset time. -- Original Message -- Received: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 02:18:08 PM CST From: Hap Griffin [EMAIL

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Scotchkoat

2008-01-07 Thread Kris Kirby
On Mon, 7 Jan 2008, Paul Finch wrote: Unless it has something like lacquer thinner in it there is not a chance of it working. On upholstery I don?t know. It depends on what it is, if it?s plastic based I would be very careful. If it?s a cloth material I would try the lacquer thinner then

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-07 Thread no6b
At 1/7/2008 22:23, you wrote: Not exactly true. Analog operation for TV in metro areas will cease in Feb 2009. LPTV and translators that are analog will be allowed to continue operating and currently have no sunset time. I wouldn't be surprised if some of those LPTV stations suddenly became