RE: [Repeater-Builder] Passive fer wifi

2009-09-09 Thread Mike Hasel
Hi Dennis,
 
This is the same problem I faced when cable internet came down our road, we
were too far back for the standard free install but I could have it
installed across the road and am shooting the signal somewhere between 1500
and 2000 ft with very little problems except for real heavy rain or snow. I
basically installed a router in the attic with an external omni antenna on
the roof and a wireless bridge from DLink on a pole in our yard with a
directional panel antenna pointed back at the dish using Netstumbler also
for aiming. I can get you some pictures and equipment list if interested and
would be glad to help you sort out the details, it saved me quite a bit and
is just as reliable as the cable service. I may replace the omni with a yagi
to compensate for the weather conditions but otherwise have been very
pleased with the install just over 5 years this fall.
 
73s
Mike
N3KUN

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of numberone5call
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 7:08 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Passive fer wifi


  

Curious;
Has anyone tried a passive repeater to extend the distance of internet
service. I have a daughter living in a house about 150 yards away. She has
little to no service from my n-router. There is nothing to block the signal
between us. What about connecting two yagis back to back and putting them on
a pole halfway between us. Never tried it on vhf or uhf. Just wondering if
anyone has tried it fer a wifi extension.

Dennis no5c 






RE: [Repeater-Builder] COR board for simple repeater??

2009-09-09 Thread Robert McNeill
What are your questions?

 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gervais
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 9:41 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] COR board for simple repeater??

 

  

Hi all

i am trying to establish contact with the builder of this interface,

i sent an email and no response.

Is there someone that could help me please ?

There must be the barrier of language here as for me too,,,

 

Anyway ,help is welcome here from me

73/s all

Gervais,Ve2ckn

bic,Quebec

 

 

From: Jim mailto:ka2...@gmail.com  Cicirello 

Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 8:44 PM

To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com 

Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] COR board for simple repeater??

 

Hey guys did this site change? I looked it up and it was there, checked it
again all I see is ads.

 

73 JIM   

 

From: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of D.
Daniel McGlothin, KB3MUN
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 7:19 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] COR board for simple repeater??

 

  

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you are looking for.

The bottom two images at 
http://www.hs9dmc.
http://www.hs9dmc.com/repeater/vox/handy-to-handy_kitchen-house.htm
com/repeater/vox/handy-to-handy_kitchen-house.htm seem to show the two HTs
linked by the dual circuit shown on the page using the speaker and mic
jacks. 

A different circuit shown on 
http://www.hs9dmc. http://www.hs9dmc.com/repeater/repeater_handy2way.htm
com/repeater/repeater_handy2way.htm appears to be 
wired directly to the HT circuit boards.

73 de Daniel KB3MUN

gervais wrote:
 Well Daniel
 it helped me a lot
 i can see the little interface between the 2 portable radios
 it is what i need,but he is not using the 2 connectors on the radio,
 the mic and speaker 

 

 thanks
 gervais ve2ckn


 --
 From: D. Daniel McGlothin, KB3MUN kb3...@mcglothin.
mailto:kb3mun%40mcglothin.us us
 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 7:19 AM
 To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] COR board for simple repeater??

 
 Azman may have been referring to this link for HT to HT:

 http://www.hs9dmc.
http://www.hs9dmc.com/repeater/vox/handy-to-handy_kitchen-house.htm
com/repeater/vox/handy-to-handy_kitchen-house.htm

 The schematic and pictures transcend the language barrier.

 The second grouping from the bottom seems to be the collection of 
 repeating interfaces. Hovering the mouse over the links will show the 
 link name in the status bar. From that, you can determine the content 
 of the other links in the group.
 





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rebuilding a Stationmaster

2009-09-09 Thread Eric Lowell
It has been a long time, butI remember that about where the clamp for the 
ground radials is there are 3? large screws. Remove the the screws and the 
whole antenna will slide out of the radome by pulling on the RF connector. The 
black stuff bonds the aluminum mounting sleeve to the fiberglas and you don't 
have to fiddle with that part.
 
as always - YMMV
 
Best Regards, Eric W1EL

Eric Lowell
Eastern Maine Electronics Inc.
48 Loon Road
Wesley ME 04686
eme@starband.net
www.satnetmaine.com


--- On Wed, 9/9/09, hbbcara hbbc...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: hbbcara hbbc...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Rebuilding a Stationmaster
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 1:01 AM


  



Hi all,

The repeater-builder website mentions rebuilding a Stationmaster that has 
developed noise by taking it apart and resoldering the sections. I have a 
Stationmaster that has developed that noise so I brought it down the hill. The 
replacement antenna cured the noise, but it's not the same class of antenna so 
my coverage area is not what it was nor will that antenna survive the winter. 
Now comes the project of actually rebuilding the broken antenna.

Upon starting to take it apart though, a big question came up. Are there 
Stationmaster models that can and models that can't be rebuilt? I don't have 
the model designator of mine. The antenna predates my association with the site 
(in the context of maintaining it anyway) and the label is largely faded away. 
I can read Phelps Dodge and Super Stationmaster but that's about it for the 
label. The antenna is for 2 meters and is 21 feet, 6.75 inches long from the 
bottom of the metal base to the top of the metal topcap. The thing that worries 
me as far as being able to take it apart is that there seems to be something 
like epoxy between the radome and the metal base. There's a black substance at 
the junction of the radome to the base and upon taking the three screws out of 
the side of the metal base I can see the layer of metal, the layer of the black 
stuff, the layer of the radome and then the inner metal that the screw goes 
into.

Can someone who's taken these apart tell me if that black substance is indeed 
bonding the parts together and I'm stuck looking for a new antenna, or with all 
the screws out and just a little more force will it indeed come apart?

Thanks for any pointers and 73

rj
kb6ytd

















  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rebuilding a Stationmaster

2009-09-09 Thread N9LLO
I had to heat the lightning spike with a propane torch, there is a copper  
rod soldered to a hole in it. Have someone else pulling the thing out while  
you heat, after you remove the 3 screws already mentioned of course.
 
chris
N9LLO
 
 
In a message dated 9/9/2009 5:35:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
elowell9...@yahoo.com writes:

 
 
 
It has been a long time, butI remember that about where the  clamp for 
the ground radials is there are 3? large screws. Remove the  the screws and 
the whole antenna will slide out of the radome by  pulling on the RF 
connector. The black stuff bonds the aluminum mounting  sleeve to the fiberglas 
and 
you don't have to fiddle with that  part.
 
as always - YMMV
 
Best Regards, Eric W1EL

Eric Lowell
Eastern Maine  Electronics Inc.
48 Loon Road
Wesley ME  04686
eme@starband.eme
www.satnetmaine.www


---  On Wed, 9/9/09, hbbcara hbbc...@yahoo.hbb  wrote:



From:  hbbcara hbbc...@yahoo.hbb
Subject: [Repeater-Builder]  Rebuilding a Stationmaster
To:  repeater-buil...@to:  To:
Date: Wednesday,  September 9, 2009, 1:01 AM


 
Hi all,

The repeater-builder website mentions rebuilding a  Stationmaster that has 
developed noise by taking it apart and  resoldering the sections. I have a 
Stationmaster that has developed  that noise so I brought it down the hill. 
The replacement antenna  cured the noise, but it's not the same class of 
antenna so my coverage  area is not what it was nor will that antenna survive 
the winter. Now  comes the project of actually rebuilding the broken  antenna.

Upon starting to take it apart though, a big question  came up. Are there 
Stationmaster models that can and models that can't  be rebuilt? I don't have 
the model designator of mine. The antenna  predates my association with the 
site (in the context of maintaining  it anyway) and the label is largely 
faded away. I can read Phelps  Dodge and Super Stationmaster but that's 
about it for the label.  The antenna is for 2 meters and is 21 feet, 6.75 
inches long from the  bottom of the metal base to the top of the metal topcap. 
The thing  that worries me as far as being able to take it apart is that 
there  seems to be something like epoxy between the radome and the metal  base. 
There's a black substance at the junction of the radome to the  base and 
upon taking the three screws out of the side of the metal  base I can see the 
layer of metal, the layer of the black stuff, the  layer of the radome and 
then the inner metal that the screw goes  into.

Can someone who's taken these apart tell me if that black  substance is 
indeed bonding the parts together and I'm stuck looking  for a new antenna, or 
with all the screws out and just a little more  force will it indeed come 
apart?

Thanks for any pointers and  73

rj
kb6ytd










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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Passive fer wifi

2009-09-09 Thread Jim Brown
I have a buddy who has a son living about a quarter mile away, and he mounted a 
router in a weatherproof fiberglass box on top of his 50 ft tower, and his son 
gets a good signal.  Getting the router antennas up in the clear was the answer 
for that system.

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

--- On Tue, 9/8/09, numberone5call n...@bellsouth.net wrote:

From: numberone5call n...@bellsouth.net
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Passive fer wifi
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 6:07 PM






 





  Curious;

Has anyone tried a passive repeater to extend the distance of internet service. 
I have a daughter living in a house about 150 yards away. She has little to no 
service from my n-router. There is nothing to block the signal between us. What 
about connecting two yagis back to back and putting them on a pole halfway 
between us. Never tried it on vhf or uhf. Just wondering if anyone has tried it 
fer a wifi extension.



Dennis  no5c 
 





  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC110 repeater controller

2009-09-09 Thread Jim Brown
Good luck on getting any support at all on the RC110.  It appears that Ken has 
abandoned the folks who bought one of those and you might as well chunk it in 
the trash.  That is my take on it anyway.

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

--- On Tue, 9/8/09, wb7bts wb7...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: wb7bts wb7...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RC110 repeater controller
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 9:27 AM






 





  Anybody heard from Ken AH6LE? I've sent him 2 e-mails in the 
last 2 weeks (ar...@arcomcontroll ers.com and ah...@arcom. com) and no reply so 
far.I need to send our controller in for firmware upgrade and voice chip 
programming.

Thanks

Phil




 

  




 

















  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: ATSC pilot frequencies for Sig.Gen. alignment

2009-09-09 Thread Tony KT9AC
What about a local Trunked Simulcast system for a rough reference? They 
should be GPS aligned somehow.



Al Wolfe wrote:
  

 Pity that the guy selling all this stuff is in China. I think I'll pass.

 Al, k9si

  Re: ATSC pilot frequencies for sig. gen. alignment
  Posted by: wb6ymh freebsd...@hotmail.com 
 mailto:freebsdfan%40hotmail.com wb6ymh
  Date: Tue Sep 8, 2009 6:56 am ((PDT))

 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
 mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com, wb6ymh freebsd...@... 
 wrote:
 
  Bob, you might consider picking up a rubidium frequency standard, they
  are $100 on ebay. In fact there's a $77 buy it now listing
  with free shipping at the moment:
  
 http://cgi.ebay.com/10MHZ-EFRATOM-LPRO-101-Rubidium-Frequency-Standard-DHL_W0QQitemZ270442620847QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ef7a2e7af_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
  
 http://cgi.ebay.com/10MHZ-EFRATOM-LPRO-101-Rubidium-Frequency-Standard-DHL_W0QQitemZ270442620847QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ef7a2e7af_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
 
  You'll need a heatsink and a 24 volts power supply. A GPS locked
  standard would be ultimate, but they are more like $300.
 
  73's Skip WB6YMH

 I take it back, GPS standards have come WAY down in price since the last
 time I looked. Here's one for $120... hmmm... tempting...
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/Thunderbolt-PRECISION-GPS-10mhz-FREQUENCY-TIME-Standard_W0QQitemZ180399458965QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2a00a54a95_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
  
 http://cgi.ebay.com/Thunderbolt-PRECISION-GPS-10mhz-FREQUENCY-TIME-Standard_W0QQitemZ180399458965QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2a00a54a95_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

 73's Skip WB6YMH

 


Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC110 repeater controller

2009-09-09 Thread Rick Szajkowski
dont kow why you say that I have had great service from Ken .. sent my
controller back to him .. he checked it out updated all firmware and
sent it back .. it seems it was a cable I made that went bad .. he
made a cable and it works 100% for me now .

I would buy another with out thinking about it

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Jim Brownw5...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Good luck on getting any support at all on the RC110.  It appears that Ken
 has abandoned the folks who bought one of those and you might as well chunk
 it in the trash.  That is my take on it anyway.

 73 - Jim  W5ZIT

 --- On Tue, 9/8/09, wb7bts wb7...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: wb7bts wb7...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RC110 repeater controller
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 9:27 AM



 Anybody heard from Ken AH6LE? I've sent him 2 e-mails in the last 2 weeks
 (ar...@arcomcontroll ers.com and ah...@arcom. com) and no reply so far.I
 need to send our controller in for firmware upgrade and voice chip
 programming.
 Thanks
 Phil


 


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Passive fer wifi

2009-09-09 Thread Don Kupferschmidt
We had the same situation here in Wisconsin.  ATT put in a fiber optic 
network, so I went with it.  I used a Linksys router, model  WRT54G (2.4Ghz 
802.11g) in conjunction with it and placed it in the attic of the house. 
I've got laptop coverage for over a 1/4 of a mile here in the sub division. 
Works really well, plus you can password protect the connection so only you 
have use to it.

If your daughter doesn't have a wireless laptop you can buy an internet 
adapter that allows desktops and other systems to receive the WI-FI.

You can buy these routers for  $100.00 almost anywhere.  Just do a google 
search on the model number.

Don, KD9PT


- Original Message - 
From: numberone5call n...@bellsouth.net
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:07 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Passive fer wifi


 Curious;
 Has anyone tried a passive repeater to extend the distance of internet 
 service. I have a daughter living in a house about 150 yards away. She has 
 little to no service from my n-router. There is nothing to block the 
 signal between us. What about connecting two yagis back to back and 
 putting them on a pole halfway between us. Never tried it on vhf or uhf. 
 Just wondering if anyone has tried it fer a wifi extension.

 Dennis  no5c



 



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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rebuilding a Stationmaster

2009-09-09 Thread Jack Taylor
It's been awhile for me as well but upon inspection it
was found to have a circular crack around the decoupling
assembly.  This was silver soldered and put back into
service.  However as the antenna was top mounted, over
time the noise returned due to flexing at the base.

Our ultimate solution was to replace the copper pipe
dipoles with a gain J-pole made out of #12 copper wire
and hung inside the radome from the tip.  The J was
found to have feed line reflections which was solved
by adding a coaxial stub at the exterior feed point.  This
flattened the line and preserved the radiation pattern of
the J.  A lot of fussing but the end result was a light
weight antenna with a gain and radiation pattern very close
to that of the original Stationmaster.

Jack - N7OO

  - Original Message - 
  From: n9...@aol.com 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 2:51 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rebuilding a Stationmaster



  I had to heat the lightning spike with a propane torch, there is a copper rod 
soldered to a hole in it. Have someone else pulling the thing out while you 
heat, after you remove the 3 screws already mentioned of course.

  chris
  N9LLO

  In a message dated 9/9/2009 5:35:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
elowell9...@yahoo.com writes:
  
  It has been a long time, butI remember that about where the clamp 
for the ground radials is there are 3? large screws. Remove the the screws and 
the whole antenna will slide out of the radome by pulling on the RF connector. 
The black stuff bonds the aluminum mounting sleeve to the fiberglas and you 
don't have to fiddle with that part.

  as always - YMMV

  Best Regards, Eric W1EL

  Eric Lowell
  Eastern Maine Electronics Inc.
  48 Loon Road
  Wesley ME 04686
  eme@starband.net
  www.satnetmaine.com


  --- On Wed, 9/9/09, hbbcara hbbc...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: hbbcara hbbc...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Rebuilding a Stationmaster
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 1:01 AM


  
Hi all,

The repeater-builder website mentions rebuilding a Stationmaster 
that has developed noise by taking it apart and resoldering the sections. I 
have a Stationmaster that has developed that noise so I brought it down the 
hill. The replacement antenna cured the noise, but it's not the same class of 
antenna so my coverage area is not what it was nor will that antenna survive 
the winter. Now comes the project of actually rebuilding the broken antenna.

Upon starting to take it apart though, a big question came up. Are 
there Stationmaster models that can and models that can't be rebuilt? I don't 
have the model designator of mine. The antenna predates my association with the 
site (in the context of maintaining it anyway) and the label is largely faded 
away. I can read Phelps Dodge and Super Stationmaster but that's about it 
for the label. The antenna is for 2 meters and is 21 feet, 6.75 inches long 
from the bottom of the metal base to the top of the metal topcap. The thing 
that worries me as far as being able to take it apart is that there seems to be 
something like epoxy between the radome and the metal base. There's a black 
substance at the junction of the radome to the base and upon taking the three 
screws out of the side of the metal base I can see the layer of metal, the 
layer of the black stuff, the layer of the radome and then the inner metal that 
the screw goes into.

Can someone who's taken these apart tell me if that black substance 
is indeed bonding the parts together and I'm stuck looking for a new antenna, 
or with all the screws out and just a little more force will it indeed come 
apart?

Thanks for any pointers and 73

rj
kb6ytd

 





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[Repeater-Builder] Zetron 45B Telephone Interconnect and 64 DAPT Paging Terminal

2009-09-09 Thread bbfmrf
For Sale:

Zetron Model 45B Z-Patch Telephone Interconnect and

Model 64 DAPT-Plus Dial Access Paging Terminal

Both of these units were in operation when removed from service.  I really have 
no application for this equipment and will take reasonable offers.

Spec information is available by accessing Zetron's web site at zetron.com

Please send your interest and or offers (offline) to:  bbf...@yahoo.com

Thank You.


  



Re: [Repeater-Builder] Passive fer wifi

2009-09-09 Thread Kris Kirby
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Jim Brown wrote:
 I have a buddy who has a son living about a quarter mile away, and he 
 mounted a router in a weatherproof fiberglass box on top of his 50 ft 
 tower, and his son gets a good signal.  Getting the router antennas up 
 in the clear was the answer for that system.

Kinda like ATT did with those microwave towers on 4, 6, and 11GHz. 
2.4GHz is very much line of sight stuff. I was always advised as a part 
of my training to confine the signal to as limited a space as I could 
afford to. From a network-sharing perspective, you'd be better off with 
a corner reflector at the top of the tower, or some form of narrow angle 
antenna, like a 15+ dBi dish. This confines the RF to an area around 
your buddy's son's house and at the same time looks like the access 
point is in his backyard. The advantage to this is that your router 
isn't off the air due to interference, and you don't have to worry about 
interlopers stealing your WiFi.

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst


Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC110 repeater controller

2009-09-09 Thread Kris Kirby
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, Jim Brown wrote:
 Good luck on getting any support at all on the RC110.  It appears that 
 Ken has abandoned the folks who bought one of those and you might as 
 well chunk it in the trash.  That is my take on it anyway.

No response might mean he's working on it, he's on vacation, or he's 
sick. 

I hate to say that last one. But we do have to accept reality that the 
average age of a ham today is 50 years old. People get sick from time to 
time. Fortunately, swine flu is not spread by ham radio operators.

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rebuilding a Stationmaster

2009-09-09 Thread Don Kupferschmidt
I thought the repeater builder web site had a specific article on how to take 
apart that antenna and fix it by soldering wires to the body of the antenna - 
but I've been all over the site and can't seem to find that article.  Can 
anyone provide a link to it?

Also, I have a super stationmaster sitting in my garage with the same issue.  
I'd like to fix it and put it back up on the tower.  It was mounted on the top 
of the tower, with no other support.  This time, when I put it back up, I'm 
going to mount it on the side of the tower.  Are there generic side arms that 
can be used from anyone, or must I order something specific to the 
stationmaster?

TIA,

Don, KD9PT


  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Lowell 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 4:35 AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rebuilding a Stationmaster




It has been a long time, butI remember that about where the clamp 
for the ground radials is there are 3? large screws. Remove the the screws and 
the whole antenna will slide out of the radome by pulling on the RF connector. 
The black stuff bonds the aluminum mounting sleeve to the fiberglas and you 
don't have to fiddle with that part.

as always - YMMV

Best Regards, Eric W1EL

Eric Lowell
Eastern Maine Electronics Inc.
48 Loon Road
Wesley ME 04686
eme@starband.net
www.satnetmaine.com


--- On Wed, 9/9/09, hbbcara hbbc...@yahoo.com wrote:


  From: hbbcara hbbc...@yahoo.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Rebuilding a Stationmaster
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 1:01 AM



  Hi all,

  The repeater-builder website mentions rebuilding a Stationmaster that 
has developed noise by taking it apart and resoldering the sections. I have a 
Stationmaster that has developed that noise so I brought it down the hill. The 
replacement antenna cured the noise, but it's not the same class of antenna so 
my coverage area is not what it was nor will that antenna survive the winter. 
Now comes the project of actually rebuilding the broken antenna.

  Upon starting to take it apart though, a big question came up. Are 
there Stationmaster models that can and models that can't be rebuilt? I don't 
have the model designator of mine. The antenna predates my association with the 
site (in the context of maintaining it anyway) and the label is largely faded 
away. I can read Phelps Dodge and Super Stationmaster but that's about it 
for the label. The antenna is for 2 meters and is 21 feet, 6.75 inches long 
from the bottom of the metal base to the top of the metal topcap. The thing 
that worries me as far as being able to take it apart is that there seems to be 
something like epoxy between the radome and the metal base. There's a black 
substance at the junction of the radome to the base and upon taking the three 
screws out of the side of the metal base I can see the layer of metal, the 
layer of the black stuff, the layer of the radome and then the inner metal that 
the screw goes into.

  Can someone who's taken these apart tell me if that black substance 
is indeed bonding the parts together and I'm stuck looking for a new antenna, 
or with all the screws out and just a little more force will it indeed come 
apart?

  Thanks for any pointers and 73

  rj
  kb6ytd

   




  

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Email me directly if interested in placing an order.
kuggieatkuggie   dot   com

Thanks,
Kevin Custer - List Owner




[Repeater-Builder] Requesting SmarTrunk II Digital Controller Info

2009-09-09 Thread bbfmrf
I have (3) ST-853 SmarTrunk II Digital Controllers.

I cannot seem to find any info on these models.

Can anyone supply info on these controllers?

For example, are they capable of PL and DPL or any other formats?

How are they programmed etc, etc.





[Repeater-Builder] J-pole

2009-09-09 Thread John Sehring
What exactly is a gain J-pole?  Am familiar with J-poles, but...  Sounds 
interesting.

--John

===
Our ultimate solution was to replace the copper pipe
dipoles with a gain J-pole made out of #12 copper wire
and hung inside the radome from the tip.  The J was
found to have feed line reflections which was solved
by adding a coaxial stub at the exterior feed point.  This
flattened the line and preserved the radiation pattern of
the J.  A lot of fussing but the end result was a light
weight antenna with a gain and radiation pattern very close
to that of the original Stationmaster.
 


  


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Requesting SmarTrunk II Digital Controller Info

2009-09-09 Thread Doug Bade
It is a discontinued product it is a trunking protocol of it's 
own...the docs seem to be gone on the web site but I do have a pdf of 
the manual from them. I could email it if you can take a 4.5 mb 
attachment... If you want contact me with an address I can email it to..

The product page is...

http://www.smartrunk.com/en/SmarTrunk_II/ST-853.html



Doug
KD8B



At 03:22 PM 9/9/2009, you wrote:


I have (3) ST-853 SmarTrunk II Digital Controllers.

I cannot seem to find any info on these models.

Can anyone supply info on these controllers?

For example, are they capable of PL and DPL or any other formats?

How are they programmed etc, etc.





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Requesting SmarTrunk II Digital Controller Info

2009-09-09 Thread Doug Bade
I checked more thoroughly .. here is the link to the manual at their website...


http://www.smartrunk.com/en/Download/Manuals/st-853_manual_en.pdf

Doug



At 03:22 PM 9/9/2009, you wrote:


I have (3) ST-853 SmarTrunk II Digital Controllers.

I cannot seem to find any info on these models.

Can anyone supply info on these controllers?

For example, are they capable of PL and DPL or any other formats?

How are they programmed etc, etc.





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rebuilding a Stationmaster

2009-09-09 Thread Eric Lowell
there is (was) a special top support made, tubing with an insulated hole on the 
end that goes down over the top and then crossover plated to the tower. For 
less demanding installations I've used a piece of schedule 40 PVC drilled to 
fit over the antenna and crossover plated to the tower. Not pretty but seems 
to work.
 
this is only temporary, unless of course, it works Red Green 

73 de W1EL

Eric Lowell
Eastern Maine Electronics Inc.
48 Loon Road
Wesley ME 04686
eme@starband.net
www.satnetmaine.com


--- On Wed, 9/9/09, Don Kupferschmidt d...@httpd.org wrote:


From: Don Kupferschmidt d...@httpd.org
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rebuilding a Stationmaster
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 2:00 PM


  




I thought the repeater builder web site had a specific article on how to take 
apart that antenna and fix it by soldering wires to the body of the antenna - 
but I've been all over the site and can't seem to find that article.  Can 
anyone provide a link to it?
 
Also, I have a super stationmaster sitting in my garage with the same issue..  
I'd like to fix it and put it back up on the tower.  It was mounted on the top 
of the tower, with no other support.  This time, when I put it back up, I'm 
going to mount it on the side of the tower.  Are there generic side arms that 
can be used from anyone, or must I order something specific to the 
stationmaster?
 
TIA,
 
Don, KD9PT
 
 

- Original Message - 
From: Eric Lowell 
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 4:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rebuilding a Stationmaster






It has been a long time, butI remember that about where the clamp for the 
ground radials is there are 3? large screws. Remove the the screws and the 
whole antenna will slide out of the radome by pulling on the RF connector. The 
black stuff bonds the aluminum mounting sleeve to the fiberglas and you don't 
have to fiddle with that part.
 
as always - YMMV
 
Best Regards, Eric W1EL

Eric Lowell
Eastern Maine Electronics Inc.
48 Loon Road
Wesley ME 04686
eme@starband. net
www.satnetmaine. com


--- On Wed, 9/9/09, hbbcara hbbc...@yahoo. com wrote:


From: hbbcara hbbc...@yahoo. com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Rebuilding a Stationmaster
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 1:01 AM


  

Hi all,

The repeater-builder website mentions rebuilding a Stationmaster that has 
developed noise by taking it apart and resoldering the sections. I have a 
Stationmaster that has developed that noise so I brought it down the hill. The 
replacement antenna cured the noise, but it's not the same class of antenna so 
my coverage area is not what it was nor will that antenna survive the winter. 
Now comes the project of actually rebuilding the broken antenna.

Upon starting to take it apart though, a big question came up. Are there 
Stationmaster models that can and models that can't be rebuilt? I don't have 
the model designator of mine. The antenna predates my association with the site 
(in the context of maintaining it anyway) and the label is largely faded away. 
I can read Phelps Dodge and Super Stationmaster but that's about it for the 
label. The antenna is for 2 meters and is 21 feet, 6.75 inches long from the 
bottom of the metal base to the top of the metal topcap. The thing that worries 
me as far as being able to take it apart is that there seems to be something 
like epoxy between the radome and the metal base. There's a black substance at 
the junction of the radome to the base and upon taking the three screws out of 
the side of the metal base I can see the layer of metal, the layer of the black 
stuff, the layer of the radome and then the inner metal that the screw goes 
into.

Can someone who's taken these apart tell me if that black substance is indeed 
bonding the parts together and I'm stuck looking for a new antenna, or with all 
the screws out and just a little more force will it indeed come apart?

Thanks for any pointers and 73

rj
kb6ytd



















  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rebuilding a Stationmaster

2009-09-09 Thread Don Kupferschmidt
Hi Eric,

Thanks for the info; I'll look into that.

Of course, I am considering using duct tape, as its properties are far superior 
than any metal known to man.

Don, KD9PT

  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Lowell 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 4:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rebuilding a Stationmaster




there is (was) a special top support made, tubing with an insulated 
hole on the end that goes down over the top and then crossover plated to the 
tower. For less demanding installations I've used a piece of schedule 40 PVC 
drilled to fit over the antenna and crossover plated to the tower. Not pretty 
but seems to work.

this is only temporary, unless of course, it works Red Green 

73 de W1EL

Eric Lowell
Eastern Maine Electronics Inc.
48 Loon Road
Wesley ME 04686
eme@starband.net
www.satnetmaine.com


--- On Wed, 9/9/09, Don Kupferschmidt d...@httpd.org wrote:


  From: Don Kupferschmidt d...@httpd.org
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rebuilding a Stationmaster
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 2:00 PM



  I thought the repeater builder web site had a specific article on how 
to take apart that antenna and fix it by soldering wires to the body of the 
antenna - but I've been all over the site and can't seem to find that article.  
Can anyone provide a link to it?

  Also, I have a super stationmaster sitting in my garage with the same 
issue.  I'd like to fix it and put it back up on the tower.  It was mounted on 
the top of the tower, with no other support.  This time, when I put it back up, 
I'm going to mount it on the side of the tower.  Are there generic side arms 
that can be used from anyone, or must I order something specific to the 
stationmaster?

  TIA,

  Don, KD9PT


- Original Message - 
From: Eric Lowell 
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 4:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Rebuilding a Stationmaster


  It has been a long time, butI remember that about where 
the clamp for the ground radials is there are 3? large screws. Remove the the 
screws and the whole antenna will slide out of the radome by pulling on the RF 
connector. The black stuff bonds the aluminum mounting sleeve to the fiberglas 
and you don't have to fiddle with that part.

  as always - YMMV

  Best Regards, Eric W1EL

  Eric Lowell
  Eastern Maine Electronics Inc.
  48 Loon Road
  Wesley ME 04686
  eme@starband. net
  www.satnetmaine. com


  --- On Wed, 9/9/09, hbbcara hbbc...@yahoo. com wrote:


From: hbbcara hbbc...@yahoo. com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Rebuilding a Stationmaster
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 1:01 AM


  
Hi all,

The repeater-builder website mentions rebuilding a 
Stationmaster that has developed noise by taking it apart and resoldering the 
sections. I have a Stationmaster that has developed that noise so I brought it 
down the hill. The replacement antenna cured the noise, but it's not the same 
class of antenna so my coverage area is not what it was nor will that antenna 
survive the winter. Now comes the project of actually rebuilding the broken 
antenna.

Upon starting to take it apart though, a big question came 
up. Are there Stationmaster models that can and models that can't be rebuilt? I 
don't have the model designator of mine. The antenna predates my association 
with the site (in the context of maintaining it anyway) and the label is 
largely faded away. I can read Phelps Dodge and Super Stationmaster but 
that's about it for the label. The antenna is for 2 meters and is 21 feet, 6.75 
inches long from the bottom of the metal base to the top of the metal topcap. 
The thing that worries me as far as being able to take it apart is that there 
seems to be something like epoxy between the radome and the metal base. There's 
a black substance at the junction of the radome to the base and upon taking the 
three screws out of the side of the metal base I can see the layer of metal, 
the layer of the black stuff, the layer of the radome and then the inner metal 
that the screw goes into.

Can someone who's taken these apart tell me if that black 
substance is indeed bonding the parts together and I'm stuck looking for a new 
antenna, or with all the screws out and just a little more force will it indeed 
come apart?

  

[Repeater-Builder] OT: Tape

2009-09-09 Thread hitekgearhead
I have heard you all mention scotch super 33 vinyl electrical tape and 
recommended it for a few different uses. Is there still any use for rubber and 
cloth type electrical tapes for certain specific tasks?



[Repeater-Builder] OT:Duct Tape (was: Rebuilding a Stationmaster)

2009-09-09 Thread Oz
Duct Tape is like The Force - it has a light side and a dark side and 
binds the universe together.

Don Kupferschmidt wrote:
  

 Hi Eric,
  
 Thanks for the info; I'll look into that.
  
 Of course, I am considering using duct tape, as its properties are far 
 superior than any metal known to man.
  
 Don, KD9PT
  

-- 
mailto:o...@ozindfw.net
Oz
POB 93167 
Southlake, TX 76092 (Near DFW Airport) 




RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Tape

2009-09-09 Thread Eric Lemmon
Scotch Super 33 tape is great stuff, but Scotch Super 88 is even better-
it's thicker, has a better adhesive, and it has better UV resistance.  Cloth
tape, AKA friction tape, should be pitched into a trash can.

Scotch does make a Linerless Splicing Tape which is self-vulcanizing
rubber, and is great for making a cable splice waterproof.  You stretch it
as you wind it onto the splice, and it sticks to itself.  Cover that layer
with Super 88 tape, and you never need to worry about water getting into
that splice.  If you can't find these tapes at Home Depot or similar
home-improvement stores, try a commercial electrical supply house.  If
that's not convenient, go to 3M's online store and buy any Scotch product
made.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hitekgearhead
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:47 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Tape

  

I have heard you all mention scotch super 33 vinyl electrical tape and
recommended it for a few different uses. Is there still any use for rubber
and cloth type electrical tapes for certain specific tasks?



Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Tape

2009-09-09 Thread terry dalpoas


 I worked as a licensed apprentice electrician a few years ago and used Super 
33, Super 88, Temflex 1710 (regular and MSHA approved), Scotch 35 (for color 
coding).  I really like the 88 (it is thicker than 33, however, more 
expensive).  1710 is not too bad, it has the same thickness as 33, and cheaper. 
 Are you referring to the white glass cloth tape?  I know that is used where 
there are high temperatures (Scotch 27 good to 266 degrees F).  There is a 
thick rubber tape (Scotch 130C, good thru 69kV) that is used for sealing 
connections in wet areas (I worked a few months in 2006 at an underground 
coalmine with my uncle here in Eastern Oklahoma and that works really well).  I 
try to keep some of each on hand just in case I need them.

Terry, KM5UQ





From: hitekgearhead hitekgearh...@hotmail.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 5:47:13 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Tape

  
I have heard you all mention scotch super 33 vinyl electrical tape and 
recommended it for a few different uses. Is there still any use for rubber and 
cloth type electrical tapes for certain specific tasks?