[Repeater-Builder] help
hi can any one help on my p210 is not lettig me read it and when i try to prog it keeps saying one channel only apart from the p210 softwere is there any other progame i can try to set it back to 8 channers thanks larry
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Death of a Service Monitor
i used to use the Motorola Signal Gen , the first one he started shooting up he could have sent it my way, Marcus On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 4:47 AM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.comwrote: This guy needs to work on his aim. :-) Can totally relate though!! THE HUMANITY THE HUMANITY!!! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - *From:* Joe k1ike_m...@snet.net *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:36 AM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] Death of a Service Monitor Worth watching if a service monitor ever caused you frustration. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nXbBS3lVXU 73, Joe, k1ike
Re: [Repeater-Builder] lowband HT antennas
Ummm, shouldn't that be the other way around??? 29 MHz = 10 Meters (approx.) 150 MHz = 2 meters (approx.) Dan KA8YPY On Jul 1, 2010, at 12:43 AM, Barry wrote: Real easy to visualise consider the length of a wavelength then lay the antenna against it the ht stick gets shorter in comparision the lower in frequency Find it at CarPoint.com.au New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private?
RE: [Repeater-Builder] lowband HT antennas
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: ka8...@verizon.net Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 04:45:20 -0400 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] lowband HT antennas Ummm, shouldn't that be the other way around??? Sigh nah 29 MHz = 10 Meters (approx.) 150 MHz = 2 meters (approx.) Dan KA8YPY On Jul 1, 2010, at 12:43 AM, Barry wrote: Real easy to visualise consider the length of a wavelength then lay the antenna against it the ht stick gets shorter in comparision the lower in frequency Find it at CarPoint.com.au New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private? _ New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private? Find it at CarPoint.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/206222968/direct/01/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] lowband HT antennas
Never mind, I went back and re-read it. All I have to say for myself is...Duh. I really shouldn't respond to things at 0515. Dan KA8YPY On Jul 1, 2010, at 5:16 AM, Barry wrote: To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: ka8...@verizon.net Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 04:45:20 -0400 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] lowband HT antennas Ummm, shouldn't that be the other way around??? Sigh nah 29 MHz = 10 Meters (approx.) 150 MHz = 2 meters (approx.) Dan KA8YPY On Jul 1, 2010, at 12:43 AM, Barry wrote: Real easy to visualise consider the length of a wavelength then lay the antenna against it the ht stick gets shorter in comparision the lower in frequency Find it at CarPoint.com.au New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private? Find it at CarPoint.com.au New, Used, Demo, Dealer or Private?
[Repeater-Builder] Re: 1296 filter
On 1 Jul 2010 02:58:24 - Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com wrote: I'm searching a valid project of 1296MHz cavity filter. Schematic, images are appreciated. I would use it on 1296 fm repeater and atv repeater 1240/1290. Could be interesting a project of cavity filter with unique antenna out. ATV filtering might be difficult because the signal is wide and you're bound to have phase distortion problems. Having said that, see if you can find someone who has the UKW unterlagen book series (in German). Geert Jan
Re: [Repeater-Builder] lowband HT antennas
Hi Al, The most simple explanation is, the higher you go in frequency, the wider the band width. This is also relevant to the diameter of the metal of the antenna structure. The fatter it is, the more the bandwidth will increase. On low band frequency's you really really have to get it Fat to increase the bandwidth. As an example a standard Mobile whip (Not a HT antenna) at 50 MHz, may yield a 1.5 to 1 VSWR over 3 MHZ. to increase it to 5 MHZ you would need to increase the diameter to about the size of about a 1/4 inch pipe. Thats why you would see better bandwidth characteristics in a 1/4 tube constructed antenna than that of the type of a mobile whip. at same frequency. So Again thats not the exact true to a formula explanation but it gets the picture in the minds eye of the electrical characteristics of an antenna, I hope its clearer not muddier :-) Richard From: hitekgearhead hitekgearh...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, June 30, 2010 10:58:06 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] lowband HT antennas I know I am revisiting this again but I could use some clarification. It has been stated before that the Motorola low band helical antennas have a useful bandwidth of about 1MHz. I was just wondering why that was the case, say in comparison to HT antennas in other bands. For instance, (and correct me if I am wrong) the mid UHF (430-470MHz) radios often all use the same 6 1/4 wave whip. What am I missing? I know that the first type of antenna is loaded and the other is a 1/4 wave whip, but beyond that I don't understand the fundamental differences that would allow one a wider bandwidth over the other. Please pardon my antenna theory ignorance Also, in relation to that, what use would be a 99 channel MT1000 unless one either programmed the frequencies on quite a narrow spread, or carried multiple antennas? Thanks in advance, Albert
[Repeater-Builder] Looking for SP01 audio/squelch and interconnect boards
hi looking for SP01 audio/squelch and interconnect boards. for cheap. thanks...n8rtnmike.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Death of a Service Monitor
Idiotic waste of time and band width Ted Bleiman K9MDM MDM Radio If its in stock...we've got it! P O Box 31353 - Chicago ,IL 60631-0353 Phone 773. 255. 9838 fax 773.775.8096 see our offerings on www.twowayshopper.com www.secondhandradio.com --- On Wed, 6/30/10, Joe k1ike_m...@snet.net wrote: From: Joe k1ike_m...@snet.net Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Death of a Service Monitor To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 10:36 AM Worth watching if a service monitor ever caused you frustration. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nXbBS3lVXU 73, Joe, k1ike
[Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another domain *www.ham.dmz.ro*, which now points to that new domain. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.comwrote: Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
Thanks for the hot tip! Just what I needed! On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.comwrote: Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
So Motorola wont go ofter these people since they are based in another country? Glad to hear they have been around a while - just didnt want any legal crap with the Big Bat :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Jeff Ackerman To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another domain www.ham.dmz.ro, which now points to that new domain. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Death of a Service Monitor
Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio k9...@... wrote: Idiotic waste of time and band width So I broke down (no pun intended) and had a look. Really sad to see that happen while thinking I know where I could have gotten that Service Monitor Refurbished. s. From: Joe k1ike_m...@... Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Death of a Service Monitor To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 10:36 AM Worth watching if a service monitor ever caused you frustration. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nXbBS3lVXU
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
Yeah, thats what i assume since they have not been taken off, and they mainly have all the old dos stuff. But i am well aware of the motorola software licience agreement policy as well, since i work for a motorola dealer too. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:12 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.comwrote: So Motorola wont go ofter these people since they are based in another country? Glad to hear they have been around a while - just didnt want any legal crap with the Big Bat :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - *From:* Jeff Ackerman kg6u...@gmail.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another domain *www.ham.dmz.ro*, which now points to that new domain. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
Thanks Jeff! I am curious though - if the RSS is similar to Computer applications (I know the RSS *IS* software) but if its obsolete, a lot of software vendors don't mind if the obsolete software goes public / freeware. Even if it was made Open Source and people could configure it to work with any similar Motorola radio (If possible), would Motorola get upset about stuff like that happening with their licensed software? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Jeff Ackerman To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution Yeah, thats what i assume since they have not been taken off, and they mainly have all the old dos stuff. But i am well aware of the motorola software licience agreement policy as well, since i work for a motorola dealer too. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:12 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: So Motorola wont go ofter these people since they are based in another country? Glad to hear they have been around a while - just didnt want any legal crap with the Big Bat :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Jeff Ackerman To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another domain www.ham.dmz.ro, which now points to that new domain. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
[Repeater-Builder] tone panel deal of the moment
If you have any interest in playing with a Repeater CTCSS Tone Panel... here's the deal of the moment. Ebay Item 220627865813 COM SPEC REPETER TONE PANEL Starting bid: US $20.00 If nothing else you could tack it onto the disc (in some cases even the low level recorder) output of your scanner for a visual of the tone in use. Hope someone gets the great deal... s. And no, I don't have anything to do with the auction... I'd buy this auction if I didn't already have one (actually more than one) of these units.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
On Thu, 1 Jul 2010, La Rue Communications wrote: Thanks Jeff! I am curious though - if the RSS is similar to Computer applications (I know the RSS *IS* software) but if its obsolete, a lot of software vendors don't mind if the obsolete software goes public / freeware. Even if it was made Open Source and people could configure it to work with any similar Motorola radio (If possible), would Motorola get upset about stuff like that happening with their licensed software? Motorola will sue you into bankruptcy if you cross them. However, they have larger problems. Remember that they are selling radios that cost $1500+ to every agency under the sun because of the narrow-banding that is coming up in a few years. The secondary markets of the existing wideband radios will be legal Part 90 users who do not want to pay for the new radios, and can afford the filter and frequency standard replacement as well as the tech's time on the bench to make sure the radio is within spec. On top of those factors, many of the radios weren't made to deal with the splinter frequencies which will be used in increasing numbers in the future. I suppose if one was bright and wanted to hedge a few bets, one could buy up a large number of Maxtracs, have them sent to China, install new timebases and filters, check them there cheaply, then send them back to the US and have them checked again, programmed, and sold to the other Part 90 users. Or one could have 900MHz Maxtracs turned into 450MHz Maxtracs, keep the 2.5KHz deviation, and use HearClear. That would be fundamentally changing the operation of the radio and might involve learning 68HC11 microprocessors and reverse engineering the radio. But those costs are cheaper in China, where the choice is do I want to eat today? versus Do I want to eat next week? or I still have four months before they foreclose. Of course, the growing dependence on CODECs to achieve bandwidth savings in digital radio sets an artificial obsolescence point in the lifetime of the radio. As long as the FCC and industry keeps thinking they can squeeze blood from a turnip, two-way radio will see smaller allocations and the Big Five telecom players will enjoy allocations in the multi-megahertz. But Motorola plays in that market too. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
Well, RSS is very easy to find, as you found that web site, there are a few other websites that list RSS, although, those other sites are all in other countries, Russia, china and so forth. the newer windows versions, CPS, is harder to come by on the internet, its out there but not as publicly available, mainly distributed through private exchanges, and such. I have seen motorola take action on there windows software when it shows up on the internet, if you happen to find a listing for some CPS software on ebay, watch it for a few days and usually motorola finds it and tells ebay, then ebay cancles the auction automatically, iv herd several accounts of that, even if your a dealer and your listing new software it will be taken off ebay withen a day or so of listing it. I have seen aucitons of radios and the person will include a copy of the programming software, but in all accounts of those, they were older not supported radios, that used the RSS (dos) programming software, and iv not seen motorola report that kind of auction, i however havent looked for auctions for just RSS and see if it gets reported. From what i can make of it all, motorola seems to not be as strict with the older RSS as they are with the newer CPS. Jeff Ackerman - kg6uyz Peninsula Communications 6 Rossi Circle, Suite C Salinas, Ca 93907 j...@peninsulacom.com On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:38 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Jeff! I am curious though - if the RSS is similar to Computer applications (I know the RSS *IS* software) but if its obsolete, a lot of software vendors don't mind if the obsolete software goes public / freeware. Even if it was made Open Source and people could configure it to work with any similar Motorola radio (If possible), would Motorola get upset about stuff like that happening with their licensed software? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - *From:* Jeff Ackerman kg6u...@gmail.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:30 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution Yeah, thats what i assume since they have not been taken off, and they mainly have all the old dos stuff. But i am well aware of the motorola software licience agreement policy as well, since i work for a motorola dealer too. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:12 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: So Motorola wont go ofter these people since they are based in another country? Glad to hear they have been around a while - just didnt want any legal crap with the Big Bat :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - *From:* Jeff Ackerman kg6u...@gmail.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another domain *www.ham.dmz.ro*, which now points to that new domain. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
One other thing is hams already modify there RSS to suite there needs, mainly speaking of the 900 mhz rss for GTX's, MTX9000's and so forth. But alot of these hams that have this modified software are very reluctant to let it go wild out on the net for fear of the big M cracking the whip, therefor its all kept in a tight group, but in some cases its not. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Kris Kirby k...@catonic.us wrote: On Thu, 1 Jul 2010, La Rue Communications wrote: Thanks Jeff! I am curious though - if the RSS is similar to Computer applications (I know the RSS *IS* software) but if its obsolete, a lot of software vendors don't mind if the obsolete software goes public / freeware. Even if it was made Open Source and people could configure it to work with any similar Motorola radio (If possible), would Motorola get upset about stuff like that happening with their licensed software? Motorola will sue you into bankruptcy if you cross them. However, they have larger problems. Remember that they are selling radios that cost $1500+ to every agency under the sun because of the narrow-banding that is coming up in a few years. The secondary markets of the existing wideband radios will be legal Part 90 users who do not want to pay for the new radios, and can afford the filter and frequency standard replacement as well as the tech's time on the bench to make sure the radio is within spec. On top of those factors, many of the radios weren't made to deal with the splinter frequencies which will be used in increasing numbers in the future. I suppose if one was bright and wanted to hedge a few bets, one could buy up a large number of Maxtracs, have them sent to China, install new timebases and filters, check them there cheaply, then send them back to the US and have them checked again, programmed, and sold to the other Part 90 users. Or one could have 900MHz Maxtracs turned into 450MHz Maxtracs, keep the 2.5KHz deviation, and use HearClear. That would be fundamentally changing the operation of the radio and might involve learning 68HC11 microprocessors and reverse engineering the radio. But those costs are cheaper in China, where the choice is do I want to eat today? versus Do I want to eat next week? or I still have four months before they foreclose. Of course, the growing dependence on CODECs to achieve bandwidth savings in digital radio sets an artificial obsolescence point in the lifetime of the radio. As long as the FCC and industry keeps thinking they can squeeze blood from a turnip, two-way radio will see smaller allocations and the Big Five telecom players will enjoy allocations in the multi-megahertz. But Motorola plays in that market too. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst -- Jeff Ackerman Peninsula Communications 6 Rossi Circle, Suite C Salinas, Ca 93907 j...@peninsulacom.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
Makes sense! Thanks Jeff! :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - From: Jeff Ackerman To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution One other thing is hams already modify there RSS to suite there needs, mainly speaking of the 900 mhz rss for GTX's, MTX9000's and so forth. But alot of these hams that have this modified software are very reluctant to let it go wild out on the net for fear of the big M cracking the whip, therefor its all kept in a tight group, but in some cases its not. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Kris Kirby k...@catonic.us wrote: On Thu, 1 Jul 2010, La Rue Communications wrote: Thanks Jeff! I am curious though - if the RSS is similar to Computer applications (I know the RSS *IS* software) but if its obsolete, a lot of software vendors don't mind if the obsolete software goes public / freeware. Even if it was made Open Source and people could configure it to work with any similar Motorola radio (If possible), would Motorola get upset about stuff like that happening with their licensed software? Motorola will sue you into bankruptcy if you cross them. However, they have larger problems. Remember that they are selling radios that cost $1500+ to every agency under the sun because of the narrow-banding that is coming up in a few years. The secondary markets of the existing wideband radios will be legal Part 90 users who do not want to pay for the new radios, and can afford the filter and frequency standard replacement as well as the tech's time on the bench to make sure the radio is within spec. On top of those factors, many of the radios weren't made to deal with the splinter frequencies which will be used in increasing numbers in the future. I suppose if one was bright and wanted to hedge a few bets, one could buy up a large number of Maxtracs, have them sent to China, install new timebases and filters, check them there cheaply, then send them back to the US and have them checked again, programmed, and sold to the other Part 90 users. Or one could have 900MHz Maxtracs turned into 450MHz Maxtracs, keep the 2.5KHz deviation, and use HearClear. That would be fundamentally changing the operation of the radio and might involve learning 68HC11 microprocessors and reverse engineering the radio. But those costs are cheaper in China, where the choice is do I want to eat today? versus Do I want to eat next week? or I still have four months before they foreclose. Of course, the growing dependence on CODECs to achieve bandwidth savings in digital radio sets an artificial obsolescence point in the lifetime of the radio. As long as the FCC and industry keeps thinking they can squeeze blood from a turnip, two-way radio will see smaller allocations and the Big Five telecom players will enjoy allocations in the multi-megahertz. But Motorola plays in that market too. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst -- Jeff Ackerman Peninsula Communications 6 Rossi Circle, Suite C Salinas, Ca 93907 j...@peninsulacom.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] tone panel deal of the moment
I've got one of these brand new, circa 1990's, in a box somewhere in the basement. I remember paying around $300.00 for it. I intended to use it on my system but never got around to putting it into use. Someone's going to get a good deal. Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: skipp025 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 4:48 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] tone panel deal of the moment If you have any interest in playing with a Repeater CTCSS Tone Panel... here's the deal of the moment. Ebay Item 220627865813 COM SPEC REPETER TONE PANEL Starting bid: US $20.00 If nothing else you could tack it onto the disc (in some cases even the low level recorder) output of your scanner for a visual of the tone in use. Hope someone gets the great deal... s. And no, I don't have anything to do with the auction... I'd buy this auction if I didn't already have one (actually more than one) of these units.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
John, While I cannot speak for Motorola, it is clear that Motorola's first priority is to protect the copyright of current software. On one programming-oriented site, there is no end of idiots who post messages like, Can anyone send me a copy of the latest software for the XTS5000? And there are idiots who respond with something like, Contact me off-list, or Check your PM. I doubt that Motorola will send out the legal beagles to collar someone who offers RSS for the SP50 or GM300, but I think that anyone who openly offers pirate RSS or CPS that is still being licensed and sold is asking for serious trouble. Big time. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:45 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
[Repeater-Builder] DB-212 questions
I have a set of DB-212 that each one is set for six meters.I want to build the harness next for the two and wanted to know should I set the SWR for the tx side or the rx side or should it be set for in between the two? Thanks Mike N8FWD
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB-212 questions
Keep the transmitter happy is my opinion. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: N8FWD kc8...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:00 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DB-212 questions I have a set of DB-212 that each one is set for six meters.I want to build the harness next for the two and wanted to know should I set the SWR for the tx side or the rx side or should it be set for in between the two? Thanks Mike N8FWD Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2976 - Release Date: 07/01/10 14:35:00
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
Since they don't sell it anymore I doubt they would use the legal department to go after anyone, BUT send a radio to depot for repair with the software on it and oops .. Just my thoughts Chester On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:38 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Jeff! I am curious though - if the RSS is similar to Computer applications (I know the RSS *IS* software) but if its obsolete, a lot of software vendors don't mind if the obsolete software goes public / freeware. Even if it was made Open Source and people could configure it to work with any similar Motorola radio (If possible), would Motorola get upset about stuff like that happening with their licensed software? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - *From:* Jeff Ackerman kg6u...@gmail.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:30 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution Yeah, thats what i assume since they have not been taken off, and they mainly have all the old dos stuff. But i am well aware of the motorola software licience agreement policy as well, since i work for a motorola dealer too. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:12 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: So Motorola wont go ofter these people since they are based in another country? Glad to hear they have been around a while - just didnt want any legal crap with the Big Bat :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - *From:* Jeff Ackerman kg6u...@gmail.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another domain *www.ham.dmz.ro*, which now points to that new domain. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
Actually that is another Russian site, and they have always been notorious for placing the RSS/CPS out there Chuck K0CMK On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.comwrote: Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
[Repeater-Builder] Re: [Repeaters] Looking for HD 440 Yagi
At 05:33 PM 7/1/2010, DW wrote: Larsen used to make a heavy duty yagi in the 430-450 MHz range (+11dBi ) for under $100.00. They still make the YA34xxYN series, but they don't list the ham split in the latest catalog. I need it for a control link from my repeater site (high winds, ice, etc..). Does anyone know of a decent 440 yagi that is still being manufactured? Thanks, David, AC4JF I've been specifying the PcTel (Maxrad) BMOY series antennas for installation in a system where they had been using the MYA series. The MYA has an exposed gamma match, which I'm not thrilled about, and is very time consuming to tape up the RF connection, and thus generally not done correctly...but there are ~100 of those in use for about 9 years now without any specific antenna failures that I'm aware of. The BMOY series antenna places the N connector on the rear of the boom, and the driven element matching is internal to the antenna. Sealing the antenna connection is very easy. There are about 70 more BMOY series antennas in use in this same system for about 7 years now, and again I've not heard of any failures, though on one that I had been using for DFing interference, I did manage to crack off the driven element base insulator. In DF use, I did notice that the 5 element BMOY's pattern wasn't as clean as an old 5 element Decibel Products antenna I also had on hand. The MYA's tend to have finicky tuning, and I've never seen one sweep correctly out of the box. Close enough probably, but not optimized either. The BMOY's are broad band, with one model covering 406-440 MHz and another from 440-480 MHz. At cost, they are a good value, with a BMOY4405 going for about $100. There are better, and correspondingly more expensive, antennas, but this is one that I've used that's proven to be a good value. I'm interested in hearing others comments on this topic as well. --Dave / KA9FUR
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: [Repeaters] Looking for HD 440 Yagi
M2 makes one that I used before switching to microwave IP links Matthew Kaufman (Sent from my iPhone) On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Dave Karr d...@vyex.com wrote: At 05:33 PM 7/1/2010, DW wrote: Larsen used to make a heavy duty yagi in the 430-450 MHz range (+11dBi ) for under $100.00. They still make the YA34xxYN series, but they don't list the ham split in the latest catalog. I need it for a control link from my repeater site (high winds, ice, etc..). Does anyone know of a decent 440 yagi that is still being manufactured? Thanks, David, AC4JF I've been specifying the PcTel (Maxrad) BMOY series antennas for installation in a system where they had been using the MYA series. The MYA has an exposed gamma match, which I'm not thrilled about, and is very time consuming to tape up the RF connection, and thus generally not done correctly...but there are ~100 of those in use for about 9 years now without any specific antenna failures that I'm aware of. The BMOY series antenna places the N connector on the rear of the boom, and the driven element matching is internal to the antenna. Sealing the antenna connection is very easy. There are about 70 more BMOY series antennas in use in this same system for about 7 years now, and again I've not heard of any failures, though on one that I had been using for DFing interference, I did manage to crack off the driven element base insulator. In DF use, I did notice that the 5 element BMOY's pattern wasn't as clean as an old 5 element Decibel Products antenna I also had on hand. The MYA's tend to have finicky tuning, and I've never seen one sweep correctly out of the box. Close enough probably, but not optimized either. The BMOY's are broad band, with one model covering 406-440 MHz and another from 440-480 MHz. At cost, they are a good value, with a BMOY4405 going for about $100. There are better, and correspondingly more expensive, antennas, but this is one that I've used that's proven to be a good value. I'm interested in hearing others comments on this topic as well. --Dave / KA9FUR Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB-212 questions
tune the system for the transmitt freq. But don't be too surprised when the rx looks decient also! Jeff /n5sxq Chuck Kelsey wb2...@roadrunner.com wrote: Keep the transmitter happy is my opinion. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: N8FWD kc8...@hotmail.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:00 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] DB-212 questions I have a set of DB-212 that each one is set for six meters.I want to build the harness next for the two and wanted to know should I set the SWR for the tx side or the rx side or should it be set for in between the two? Thanks Mike N8FWD Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2976 - Release Date: 07/01/10 14:35:00
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: [Repeaters] Looking for HD 440 Yagi
I'll echo most of Dave's comments, and add a few... The MYA's tend to have finicky tuning, and I've never seen one sweep correctly out of the box. Close enough probably, but not optimized either. The BMOY's are broad band, with one model covering 406-440 MHz and another from 440-480 MHz. Maxrad stopped making the MYA antenna that I used a lot - MYA43012 - 12 elements, 430-450 MHz. Now you can only get the 12 element model in 450-470 range :-( I never had much problem tuning up the MYA yagis, but as Dave said, they usually weren't tuned well out of the box. Sealing up the connector is a PITA; I always removed the rear (reflector) element, removed/loosened the hardware to allow the feed to be slid to the rear of the boom, and then proceeded to put my jumper on it and seal it up right before sliding it back into position and tuning it. I'm now buying Sinclair SY307 series and Comprod 430-70 yagis (7 element, 10 dBd each, very close to being clones of each other) at about $140 each. Have about a dozen in service and more in stock for upcoming projects. My only complaint thus far is that they seem to not be consistant on what kind of connector is on the end of the pigtail - some came with N males, some with N females - picky picky. The Antennex gamma-fed UHF yagis are real dogs. The tuning is extremely touchy. Minor changes in placement of the jumper/feedline throw the tuning all over the place, and slight changes in distance from the mast and/or changing polarization will require retuning. The Sinclairs and Comprods are mostly immune to detuning in that regard, and always sweep well across the entire spec'ed range. I bought four of the 12-element models (two silver, two gold) when I found out I couldn't get the Maxrads any more, and they're still sitting in the warehouse, I wasn't happy with them after I tested them. I, too, had/have a lot of the old Larsen's in operation (5 and 8 element), but they don't make the ham splits any more. Although they aren't built as rugged as some of the others mentioned, they've held up pretty well. I just took down two of the 8-element models that had been up on a mountain for about 15 years and, aside from a couple of bent elements from falling ice, had held up pretty well. I replaced them becuase a) they were getting old and beat up, and b) I wanted to replace the feedline runs anyway so I figured I may as well swap out antennas at the same time, one less 200+ mile trip and tower climb to make in the future. I still have four of them at a site that have been up for just about 20 years now and they're still working. --- Jeff WN3A
