[Repeater-Builder] re-tune Vocom amp

2010-07-22 Thread w5ppb
I have a Vocom amplifier model VVC100-10RF tuned at 152.375. I want to tune it 
for 145.450. Does anybody have tuning instructions ? Thanks !  



[Repeater-Builder] VXR-5000 external amp

2010-07-22 Thread w5ppb
Is anybody using an external amplifier with a Yaesu VXR-5000 repeater ? If so 
please fill me in as to what type of amp you are using along with a description 
of the configuration. I appreciate it !  



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplxer, tuned cavity question.

2010-07-22 Thread Kc7hgn
I am not going to be able to stack the antennas. They Would be about 25-40 feet 
apart horizantal. I guess what I need is 2 bandpass filters. I think thats what 
I am looking for. Now the big question. Can I build them? And where would I 
find the information? If I can't build them, where would be an inexspensive 
place to buy them? I don't know of any Elmers in my area that know about 
bandpass filters, or one that would take the time to help. Thats why I am here.
Thanks, Kevin
Kc7hgn

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Milt men...@... wrote:

 OK, too much interperatation based on a lack of information.
 
 For 2 antennas you need vertical seperation (best) or horizantal seperation 
 (very large), or 2 bandpass filters, one for each transceiver.
 
 Easiest solution, if you have the vertical real estate, use at least 25-30 
 ft seperation (preferably 40-50ft) between the antennas.
 I prefer to use top of lower antenna to bottom of top antenna as the 
 measurement of distance.  Charts often say center of antenna radiation.
 Horizontal seperation would require 300' for the same amount of isolation.
 Next best is a lesser amount of vertical seperation, coupled with bandpass 
 cavities.
 
 See http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/separation.html
 
 I would suggest that you find a local elmer to assist you.
 
 Milt
 N3LTQ




Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Duplxer, tuned cavity question.

2010-07-22 Thread Joe
My really rough guess is that you will need around 85dB of isolation 
between the two stations.  Using two antennas 25 feet apart is only 
going to give you about 30dB of isolation.  A bandpass filter at .64Mhz 
off the center frequency will only give you around 10-20 dB more of 
isolation.  I think you will need either a bandpass/bandreject filter, 
or possibly a notch filter on each station.

My math is all best-guess, so please verify it before you go buying 
equipment.  I use a TX/RX Vari Notch 10 cavity for a similar 
application, but they are expensive.  I don't think you sare going to 
find a cheap fix.

Someone with more math skills can possibly verify my guess.

73, Joe, K1ike

On 7/22/2010 7:10 AM, Kc7hgn wrote:
 I am not going to be able to stack the antennas. They Would be about 25-40 
 feet apart horizantal. I guess what I need is 2 bandpass filters. I think 
 thats what I am looking for. Now the big question. Can I build them? And 
 where would I find the information? If I can't build them, where would be an 
 inexspensive place to buy them? I don't know of any Elmers in my area that 
 know about bandpass filters, or one that would take the time to help. Thats 
 why I am here.
 Thanks, Kevin
 Kc7hgn





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Icom OPC-617 Cable

2010-07-22 Thread Duane Hall
  The solder jumpers D Data and F Flat only affect the freq response of 
the transmitted audio. A wrong setting wouldn't interfere with PTT. I 
think there was a drawing in the manual linked below, illustrating the 
locations.

Are you grounding the PTT line and have reprogrammed the radio to allow 
external PTT?

Regarding the speaker, are you getting the audio you need from the 
connector, but you want to disable the internal speaker? Maybe inserting 
a 3.5mm plug in the speaker connector on the back will mute the internal 
speaker. You could put a resistor inside the plug to provide a load.

Duane
AB8QU

On 7/21/2010 9:13 PM, ryan_151 wrote:
 I connected the OPC-617 as you said but i didnt solder the D or F bead and is 
 probly why it didnt work.  when i recieve audio it comes out the little 
 speaker inside the radio and the PTT wont work to let me transmit.  Im not 
 using any data so i guess i need to solder the D bead, is this Correct?? is 
 the D bead the jumper on the left side of the radio when the display is 
 pointing at you??

 THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!!!


Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Icom OPC-617 Cable

2010-07-22 Thread Gary W. Gibbs
What model radio is this ?
NIMS: 100 200 300 400 700 800 
Arrl  Extra Class VE 
HAZ MAT- A O 
sent from my blackberry mobile device 

-Original Message-
From: Duane Hall du...@dheco.com
Sender: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:18:04 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Reply-To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Icom OPC-617 Cable

  The solder jumpers D Data and F Flat only affect the freq response of 
the transmitted audio. A wrong setting wouldn't interfere with PTT. I 
think there was a drawing in the manual linked below, illustrating the 
locations.

Are you grounding the PTT line and have reprogrammed the radio to allow 
external PTT?

Regarding the speaker, are you getting the audio you need from the 
connector, but you want to disable the internal speaker? Maybe inserting 
a 3.5mm plug in the speaker connector on the back will mute the internal 
speaker. You could put a resistor inside the plug to provide a load.

Duane
AB8QU

On 7/21/2010 9:13 PM, ryan_151 wrote:
 I connected the OPC-617 as you said but i didnt solder the D or F bead and is 
 probly why it didnt work.  when i recieve audio it comes out the little 
 speaker inside the radio and the PTT wont work to let me transmit.  Im not 
 using any data so i guess i need to solder the D bead, is this Correct?? is 
 the D bead the jumper on the left side of the radio when the display is 
 pointing at you??

 THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!!!



[Repeater-Builder] Re: Need Help Locating Connector, Micro N Female Chasis Mount Crimp On

2010-07-22 Thread kg4ogn
  I'll probably end up going with 1/4''. Thanks guys...



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jamey Wright jwri...@... wrote:

 We use 1/4 superflex in all of our cabinets for 800 MHz systems on the 
 receive side so at VHF it should work just as well.  Plus, there are BNC 
 connectors for the 1/4 superflex.
 
 
 Jamey Wright
 Systems Analyst/EDACS Administrator
 Morgan County EMCD 911
 Decatur, AL
 256-552-0911
  
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-
  buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kg4ogn
  Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 3:32 PM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Need Help Locating Connector, Micro N
  Female Chasis Mount Crimp On
  
I am needing to replace the receive connector on a Kenwood TKR-750
  repeater. The existing connector is a Female BNC Chasis mount. I am
  doing away with the LMR400 interconnects inside the cabinet and
  upgrading to 1/2'' Superflex. Since no one makes a BNC connector for
  1/2 hardline I would like to swap the RX BNC connector out with an N
  connector. I've been searching the web for the last 40 minutes and
  can't seem to find a Micro N Female Chasis mount crimp on connector
  (I say micro because the current connector is a BNC with a very small
  flange on it and a standard flange on an N Connector is too large and I
  don't want to get into drilling new holes on the repeater)
I'm not sure if such a connector even exists, but I figured I would
  ask the experts and see if anyone could point me in the right
  direction. Thanks for the help guys...
  
 Alex N4TIA
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Yahoo! Groups Links
  
  
 





Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Icom OPC-617 Cable

2010-07-22 Thread Duane Hall

 IC-F121 Icom

On 7/22/2010 11:28 AM, Gary W. Gibbs wrote:



What model radio is this ?

NIMS: 100 200 300 400 700 800
Arrl Extra Class VE
HAZ MAT- A O
sent from my blackberry mobile device






[Repeater-Builder] Advanced Communications Systems Mark 4 repeater / controller audio board

2010-07-22 Thread eddie.sinclair
Hey all,

I have discovered my Advanced Communications Systems Mark 4 repeater / 
controller manual has no board layout for the audio board. I do have the 
schematic, just no parts locator drawing.

It's really hard to figure out which pot is which. I need to adjust some levels.

Does anyone have a copy of this drawing?

I have lot's of documentation on this machine, I purchased the manual new from 
the factory. I also have the radio manuals.

Oh', BTW, I have a working UHF Xmiter and receiver for these units if you need 
a spare. I'm using external radios and took the factory ones out.

I'd like to meet someone that still has one of these in service. I have the 
Message Master and MultiFAX option boards installed.

I wish I had the RS-232 board if anyone has one.

Eddie KC5UIB






Re: [Repeater-Builder] Advanced Communications Systems Mark 4 repeater / controller audio board

2010-07-22 Thread WA3GIN
Email me next week I have all the manuals and diagrams...great little repeater 
and there is still factory maint.

73,
dave
wa3gin

  - Original Message - 
  From: eddie.sinclair 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 1:50 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Advanced Communications Systems Mark 4 repeater / 
controller audio board



  Hey all,

  I have discovered my Advanced Communications Systems Mark 4 repeater / 
controller manual has no board layout for the audio board. I do have the 
schematic, just no parts locator drawing.

  It's really hard to figure out which pot is which. I need to adjust some 
levels.

  Does anyone have a copy of this drawing?

  I have lot's of documentation on this machine, I purchased the manual new 
from the factory. I also have the radio manuals.

  Oh', BTW, I have a working UHF Xmiter and receiver for these units if you 
need a spare. I'm using external radios and took the factory ones out.

  I'd like to meet someone that still has one of these in service. I have the 
Message Master and MultiFAX option boards installed.

  I wish I had the RS-232 board if anyone has one.

  Eddie KC5UIB



  

[Repeater-Builder] Micor HD,PA install over an Master 2

2010-07-22 Thread gervais
Hia ll
is there anyone outhere that have ever install,fit an HD ,PA from a Micor,the 
100 watts over 
i have some here and my Master 2 are dead ,,,i dont have any spare parts.
PA are PA there must be a way too install them on my master 2 .
thanks for your guidance and best if you have picture it would be 125% best
thanks 73/s
Gervais ve2ckn


[Repeater-Builder] Re: Re-Tune a Vocom Amplifier

2010-07-22 Thread skipp025


 w5ppb w5...@... wrote:
 I have a Vocom amplifier model VVC100-10RF tuned at 
 152.375. I want to tune it for 145.450. Does anybody 
 have tuning instructions ? Thanks !

Most of these type and model amplifiers are not easily 
re-tuned down to the Ham Bands. And as many Vocom Amplifiers 
as I have... I don't even know if they've ever provided 
any type of circuit diagram.  I once asked Cresend for 
a diagram and they wouldn't provide it saying only they 
should re-tune their amplifier products. I don't buy or 
recommend Cresend any more... 

I would tell you to flip (sell) the Vocom and buy something 
already down into the Ham Bands where you can use it 
without grief. 

s. 






Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Re-Tune a Vocom Amplifier

2010-07-22 Thread Captainlance
I've sent a few of these back to cresend, they tuned them for the ham band at 
minimal cost, and they have worked for years.
lance n2HBA
  - Original Message - 
  From: skipp025 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:21 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Re-Tune a Vocom Amplifier





   w5ppb w5...@... wrote:
   I have a Vocom amplifier model VVC100-10RF tuned at 
   152.375. I want to tune it for 145.450. Does anybody 
   have tuning instructions ? Thanks !

  Most of these type and model amplifiers are not easily 
  re-tuned down to the Ham Bands. And as many Vocom Amplifiers 
  as I have... I don't even know if they've ever provided 
  any type of circuit diagram. I once asked Cresend for 
  a diagram and they wouldn't provide it saying only they 
  should re-tune their amplifier products. I don't buy or 
  recommend Cresend any more... 

  I would tell you to flip (sell) the Vocom and buy something 
  already down into the Ham Bands where you can use it 
  without grief. 

  s. 



  


[Repeater-Builder] Re: Re-Tune a Vocom Amplifier

2010-07-22 Thread skipp025
Excellent...  But I would not normally suggest someone go 
inside to try and mod the amplifier down to the Amateur 
Band.  Things go smoother when the right people do the job 
with the right parts and knowledge of how to... 

s. 

 Captainlance captainla...@... wrote:
 I've sent a few of these back to cresend, they tuned them 
 for the ham band at minimal cost, and they have worked 
 for years.
 lance n2HBA

   - Original Message - 
   From: skipp025 
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 8:21 PM
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Re-Tune a Vocom Amplifier
 
 
 
 
 
w5ppb w5ppb@ wrote:
I have a Vocom amplifier model VVC100-10RF tuned at 
152.375. I want to tune it for 145.450. Does anybody 
have tuning instructions ? Thanks !
 
   Most of these type and model amplifiers are not easily 
   re-tuned down to the Ham Bands. And as many Vocom Amplifiers 
   as I have... I don't even know if they've ever provided 
   any type of circuit diagram. I once asked Cresend for 
   a diagram and they wouldn't provide it saying only they 
   should re-tune their amplifier products. I don't buy or 
   recommend Cresend any more... 
 
   I would tell you to flip (sell) the Vocom and buy something 
   already down into the Ham Bands where you can use it 
   without grief. 
 
   s.