Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TKR-750 (VHF repeater)
IF you have a ver 2, you can do a mod detailed in the service manual by switching the position of some cap's to make it work on one port without a antenna relay. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Ken Arck ah...@ah6le.net wrote: At 01:47 PM 8/28/2010, Juan Tellez wrote: For simplex use, you have to have an external antenna relay. -Yup. You need an external relay. Checkout RF Parts as they have fairly reasonably priced ones Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.arcomcontrollers.com/ Authorized Dealers for Kenwood and Telewave and we offer complete repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net We don't just make 'em. We use 'em! -- Jeff Ackerman Peninsula Communications 6 Rossi Circle, Suite C Salinas, Ca 93907 j...@peninsulacom.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another domain *www.ham.dmz.ro*, which now points to that new domain. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.comwrote: Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
Yeah, thats what i assume since they have not been taken off, and they mainly have all the old dos stuff. But i am well aware of the motorola software licience agreement policy as well, since i work for a motorola dealer too. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:12 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.comwrote: So Motorola wont go ofter these people since they are based in another country? Glad to hear they have been around a while - just didnt want any legal crap with the Big Bat :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - *From:* Jeff Ackerman kg6u...@gmail.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another domain *www.ham.dmz.ro*, which now points to that new domain. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
Well, RSS is very easy to find, as you found that web site, there are a few other websites that list RSS, although, those other sites are all in other countries, Russia, china and so forth. the newer windows versions, CPS, is harder to come by on the internet, its out there but not as publicly available, mainly distributed through private exchanges, and such. I have seen motorola take action on there windows software when it shows up on the internet, if you happen to find a listing for some CPS software on ebay, watch it for a few days and usually motorola finds it and tells ebay, then ebay cancles the auction automatically, iv herd several accounts of that, even if your a dealer and your listing new software it will be taken off ebay withen a day or so of listing it. I have seen aucitons of radios and the person will include a copy of the programming software, but in all accounts of those, they were older not supported radios, that used the RSS (dos) programming software, and iv not seen motorola report that kind of auction, i however havent looked for auctions for just RSS and see if it gets reported. From what i can make of it all, motorola seems to not be as strict with the older RSS as they are with the newer CPS. Jeff Ackerman - kg6uyz Peninsula Communications 6 Rossi Circle, Suite C Salinas, Ca 93907 j...@peninsulacom.com On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:38 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Jeff! I am curious though - if the RSS is similar to Computer applications (I know the RSS *IS* software) but if its obsolete, a lot of software vendors don't mind if the obsolete software goes public / freeware. Even if it was made Open Source and people could configure it to work with any similar Motorola radio (If possible), would Motorola get upset about stuff like that happening with their licensed software? John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - *From:* Jeff Ackerman kg6u...@gmail.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:30 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution Yeah, thats what i assume since they have not been taken off, and they mainly have all the old dos stuff. But i am well aware of the motorola software licience agreement policy as well, since i work for a motorola dealer too. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:12 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: So Motorola wont go ofter these people since they are based in another country? Glad to hear they have been around a while - just didnt want any legal crap with the Big Bat :-) John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn - Original Message - *From:* Jeff Ackerman kg6u...@gmail.com *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 01, 2010 2:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution That site has been around for along time, it used to be under another domain *www.ham.dmz.ro*, which now points to that new domain. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com wrote: Ran across this website http://www.hampedia.net/motorola/mt-1000.php Found out it has the RSS to the Motorola MT1000. And me being the cautious guy to never get into legal crap with the big boys as I know how Motorola's Software License Agreement is big and scary.. Is this site legitimate or is this site just asking for trouble by posting RSS for the general public? Thoughts? Comments? Should I stay away from these people? Thanks! John Hymes La Rue Communications 10 S. Aurora Street Stockton, CA 95202 http://tinyurl.com/2dtngmn
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Erring on the Side of Caution....
One other thing is hams already modify there RSS to suite there needs, mainly speaking of the 900 mhz rss for GTX's, MTX9000's and so forth. But alot of these hams that have this modified software are very reluctant to let it go wild out on the net for fear of the big M cracking the whip, therefor its all kept in a tight group, but in some cases its not. On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Kris Kirby k...@catonic.us wrote: On Thu, 1 Jul 2010, La Rue Communications wrote: Thanks Jeff! I am curious though - if the RSS is similar to Computer applications (I know the RSS *IS* software) but if its obsolete, a lot of software vendors don't mind if the obsolete software goes public / freeware. Even if it was made Open Source and people could configure it to work with any similar Motorola radio (If possible), would Motorola get upset about stuff like that happening with their licensed software? Motorola will sue you into bankruptcy if you cross them. However, they have larger problems. Remember that they are selling radios that cost $1500+ to every agency under the sun because of the narrow-banding that is coming up in a few years. The secondary markets of the existing wideband radios will be legal Part 90 users who do not want to pay for the new radios, and can afford the filter and frequency standard replacement as well as the tech's time on the bench to make sure the radio is within spec. On top of those factors, many of the radios weren't made to deal with the splinter frequencies which will be used in increasing numbers in the future. I suppose if one was bright and wanted to hedge a few bets, one could buy up a large number of Maxtracs, have them sent to China, install new timebases and filters, check them there cheaply, then send them back to the US and have them checked again, programmed, and sold to the other Part 90 users. Or one could have 900MHz Maxtracs turned into 450MHz Maxtracs, keep the 2.5KHz deviation, and use HearClear. That would be fundamentally changing the operation of the radio and might involve learning 68HC11 microprocessors and reverse engineering the radio. But those costs are cheaper in China, where the choice is do I want to eat today? versus Do I want to eat next week? or I still have four months before they foreclose. Of course, the growing dependence on CODECs to achieve bandwidth savings in digital radio sets an artificial obsolescence point in the lifetime of the radio. As long as the FCC and industry keeps thinking they can squeeze blood from a turnip, two-way radio will see smaller allocations and the Big Five telecom players will enjoy allocations in the multi-megahertz. But Motorola plays in that market too. -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR Disinformation Analyst -- Jeff Ackerman Peninsula Communications 6 Rossi Circle, Suite C Salinas, Ca 93907 j...@peninsulacom.com
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fwd: DB4379UHF combiner
If you wanted to go with 2 2ch combiners instead of 1, you can put 451.525 and 453.525 on one and 451.550 and 453.550 on another if your worried about desence and such. But you would want to get a hybrid coupler, 2 inputs, 1 output and 1 port for dummyload. On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Ted Leonard n2...@verizon.net wrote: To the group, I received the attached e-mail from a friend in the two way business. Does anyone know if his goal can be met as he describes below? Also could someone point me to the tuning instructions for this beast. Thank you, Ted W3VG Original Message Subject: DB4379UHF combiner Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 11:16:13 -0400 From: Robert Harvey freedom...@windstream.net freedom...@windstream.net To: Ted Leonard n2...@verizon.net n2...@verizon.net Ted, you're the filter guy. I have a DB products DB4379-4404B 4 channel UHF combiner. You did a little bit of tuning on it once in the shop. Do you know, or can you find out, if it can be turned into two, 2 channel combiners? I want to combine 461.625, 461.650, 463.625 463.650 but the combiner is speced at 50KHz spacing. There are two splits of only 25KHz on the frequencies I need to work with. Combining 461.625 and 463.625 on one combiner and antenna and combine 461.650 and 463.650 on another combiner and antenna would save me antennas and feedline and lots of money if I can modify the combiner I own. Bob Robert D. Harvey Freedom Communications, Inc aka: RDH / TransCom voice (716) 664-2659 fax (716) 483-5968 email freedom...@windstream.net
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Techniques for combining multiple audio sources
what are you using? are Arcom? or Scom? If your using a arcom, take the jumper out of the delay board headers that jump the audio for each port, bring the audio out line (JP10-2,JP11-2,JP12-2) from each header into a mixer, run the output of the mixer to the audio input pin on the delay board, then just split the output of he delayboard however you want to, to the audio input pin on the delay board header (JP10-3,JP11-3,JP12-3), then you can set each tx level via the onboard pots. Not sure on the scom, have to look at a schematic. Thats the concept anyways. On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Jim (List) jim.l...@stuckinthemud.orgwrote: I'm in the process of building a repeater that will have multiple ports (3 different radios). Only one radio be receiving at a time, the other two transmitting. Therefore I have 3 audio sources (from different types of radio, at different levels), each being fed to the other two radios and requiring individual settings. In the middle of this I want to put a delay board, but to keep the cost down only have one. What's the best arrangement for combining the incoming audio, and then setting the levels for each TX? Thinking along the lines of a FET audio mixer for each RX, setting all to the same level of input to the delay board, then something on the output from the delay (would I need another series of buffers, or would three 100k pots do?) to adjust the TX level for each radio type? Thanks for any advice! Jim
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Web site issues???
same here, reported. On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:32 AM, James Delancy ctra...@gmail.com wrote: I just checked it in Firefox (3.6.3 beta). It is reported as an attack page. James WJ1D http://www.repeater-builder.com/maxtrac/maxtrac-index.html
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Maxtrac Channel Control
All you have to do to make your multi channel or 2 ch maxtrac, gm300 and such channel agile is find the 2 pins on the control head header on the logic board that have to do with channel up and down, then just short it to ground when you want to change channels up or down, iv done this many times. I have 2 outputs on the back of my RC210 that pulse ground, one for channel up and one for channel down, cant be any more difficult, only thing that was a little tricky on the rc210 was the pulse timing, but i figured it out and it works great. Now just try to keep track of what channel its on and your good to go. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Leroy A. M. Baptiste leroybapti...@spiceisle.com wrote: Hey Steve, what did you find out? I am also interested in a system like that. Leroy. J39AI -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kd8biw Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:01 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Maxtrac Channel Control Thanks for the informaiton everyone! I think I got what I needed to make this work. The site is pretty empty as far a repeaters go, 2 UHF, 1 VHF, and a 220. Will make sure I don't interfer with anything, but I only need 2 or 3 channels on the radio. Thanks everyone for the replies and information! Steve KD8BIW KD8BIW/R 224.580 N8IHI/R 147.105 W3YXS/R 146.745 KD8JBF/R 444.325 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder%2540yahoogroups.com , kd8biw kd8...@... wrote: Hello everyone, Wondering if anyone has been able to implement a Motorola Maxtrac as a frequency agile remote base on a repeater. What I would like to do is have a 16 channel VHF mobile hooked to our repeater, and be able to select a channel at will. I'm sure it can be done, i'm just overlooking something here. Our controller has a 4 pin hex output that I think could do the necessary stuff to make it work, just not sure about how it needs hooked to the radio. Has anyone done something similiar to this? I was looking at NO6B's RBI, and that would fit the bill, just wondering if I could make it work with our controller (MCC RC-100) or would I have to get a different controller (CAT or LinkCom)? Thanks all! Steve KD8BIW KD8BIW/R 224.580 N8IHI/R 147.105 W3YXS/R 146.745 KD8JBF/R 444.325
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola MC-Micro 200mhz PA schematic
Thanks for the info mike, unfortunitly it does not have that info in it. On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Mike Morris wa6i...@verizon.net wrote: At 08:33 AM 02/11/10, you wrote: Im looking for a schematic of a PA for the 200 mhz spit version of a Motorola MC-Micro, all i have found so far is the 403-433 split verson. This might help: Go to www.repeater-builder.com, then click on Motorola, then on The R100 and MCR100 Repeater stationshttp://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip//motorola/r100/r100-index.html, then the third link down mentions the MC-Micro repeater. That manual might have what you need. Mike WA6ILQ
