Re: [Repeater-Builder] desnse on community sites
Have you tried common earthing of the feeders? Do the radios have good shielding between them (metal cases no plastic). Have you looked at the site with a good specan? Is the sound you are hearing antenna flutter? 80 MHz Cols what brand are they? We found over here in the west we replaced cols with 4 stack dipoles because of flutter and bad joints internally. I really think it is time to check with a good Spectrum Analyser. You may be surprised what you see coming done the feeders from the other txers. Make sure you look at the rx freqs when they are all in rx only, you may well find that you have a sprogy rxer basically txing into you other rxers. Cheers Brett - Original Message - From: Ian Wells To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:33 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] desnse on community sites Hi guys .I have a small problem that i have been trying to sort out for a while now .I have 5 repeaters operating on one of my sites 3 vhf low band and 2 uhf band.The frequencies are as follows VHF A-TX 70.300MHZ RX 72.800MHZ fitted with 4 1.5 meter by 4 inch meter tins-most likely a notch diplexer 3db colinear ant FM828E B-TX 70.5875MHZ RX 73.0875MHZ fitted with 4 1.5 meter by 4 inch meter tins-most likely a notch diplexer3db colinear ant FM828E C-TX 70.725MHZ RX 73.225MHZ fitted with a new band pass/band reject possibly a varinotch 3db colinear ant FM828E UHF D- TX 473.575 RX 478.775MHZ fitted with mobile notch diplexer 6mc450s 6db colinear ant MAXON PM150/SM4450SC E- TX 489.1MHZ RX 483.900MHZ fitted with 6ld450s diplexer 6db colinear ant MAXON PM150/SM4450SC All coaxes are Heliax from antennas to Diplexers with N connectors Interconnecting cables between diplexers and radios are rg223u A and B are a 1.5 meter apart with C in the middle All antennas are mounted aprox 50 cms or more away from C or each other . D and E have a 1.5 meter between them ie- D A C B E I am at times having desense (ie scratch ) especially in windy weather occuring on repeaters B and D.It doesn't seem to affect the desense wether the transmitters are txing or not .There isnt any problem of the repeaters affectingeach other ,they all work great just the problem of scratch coming and going .A,C and E do get scratch on occasion but no whereas bad as D and B.D and B works great sometimes (clear with no scratch)and then reception willslowlydevelope major scratch and then slowly clear up -possibly electrostatic or wind moving the antennas ?.I havebeen fixing loose bolts on the windmill tower to stop problems incase of tower twist and this affecting service.I am wondering if there are any futhersugestions . Thank You, Ian Wells, Kerinvale Comaudio, www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] desnse on community sites
hey Brett, Please do us a favor and adjust your email client so it doesn't send email in HTML. HTML has no place in an email.. The font was so small I needed a magnifying glass to read it and I have 20/20 vision. Brett wrote: Have you tried common earthing of the feeders? Do the radios have good shielding between them (metal cases no plastic). Have you looked at the site with a good specan? Is the sound you are hearing antenna flutter? 80 MHz Cols what brand are they? We found over here in the west we replaced cols with 4 stack dipoles because of flutter and bad joints internally. I really think it is time to check with a good Spectrum Analyser. You may be surprised what you see coming done the feeders from the other txers. Make sure you look at the rx freqs when they are all in rx only, you may well find that you have a sprogy rxer basically txing into you other rxers. Cheers Brett - Original Message - *From:* Ian Wells mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:33 AM *Subject:* [Repeater-Builder] desnse on community sites Hi guys .I have a small problem that i have been trying to sort out for a while now .I have 5 repeaters operating on one of my sites 3 vhf low band and 2 uhf band.The frequencies are as follows VHF A-TX 70.300MHZ RX 72.800MHZ fitted with 4 1.5 meter by 4 inch meter tins-most likely a notch diplexer3db colinear ant FM828E B-TX 70.5875MHZ RX 73.0875MHZ fitted with 4 1.5 meter by 4 inch meter tins-most likely a notch diplexer3db colinear ant FM828E C-TX 70.725MHZ RX 73.225MHZ fitted with a new band pass/band reject possibly a varinotch 3db colinear antFM828E UHF D- TX 473.575 RX 478.775MHZ fitted with mobile notch diplexer 6mc450s 6db colinear ant MAXON PM150/SM4450SC E- TX 489.1MHZ RX 483.900MHZ fitted with 6ld450s diplexer 6db colinear ant MAXON PM150/SM4450SC All coaxes are Heliax from antennas to Diplexers with N connectors Interconnecting cables between diplexers and radios are rg223u A and B are a 1.5 meter apart with C in the middle All antennas are mounted aprox 50 cms or more away from C or each other . D and E have a 1.5 meter between them ie- D AC B E I am at times having desense (ie scratch ) especially in windy weather occuring on repeaters B and D.It doesn't seem to affect the desense wether the transmitters are txing or not .There isnt any problem of the repeaters affecting each other ,they all work great just the problem of scratch coming and going .A,C and E do get scratch on occasion but no where as bad as D and B.D and B works great sometimes (clear with no scratch)and then reception will slowly develope major scratch and then slowly clear up -possibly electrostatic or wind moving the antennas ?.I have been fixing loose bolts on the windmill tower to stop problems incase of tower twist and this affecting service.I am wondering if there are any futher sugestions . Thank You, Ian Wells, Kerinvale Comaudio, www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au http://www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au/ FREE emoticons for your email! click Here! http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=96627 YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group Repeater-Builder http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/. -- Jay Urish W5GM ARRL Life MemberDenton County ARRL VEC TXFCA President N5ERS VP/Trustee DCARA President Denton County ARES AEC Monitoring 444.850 PL-88.5 146.92 PL-110.9 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] desnse on community sites
Hi guys .I have a small problem that i have been trying to sort out for a while now .I have 5 repeaters operating on one of my sites 3 vhf low band and 2 uhf band.The frequencies are as follows VHF A-TX 70.300MHZ RX 72.800MHZ fitted with 4 1.5 meter by 4 inch meter tins-most likely a notch diplexer 3db colinear ant FM828E B-TX 70.5875MHZ RX 73.0875MHZ fitted with 4 1.5 meter by 4 inch meter tins-most likely a notch diplexer3db colinear ant FM828E C-TX 70.725MHZ RX 73.225MHZ fitted with a new band pass/band reject possibly a varinotch 3db colinear ant FM828E UHF D- TX 473.575 RX 478.775MHZ fitted with mobile notch diplexer 6mc450s 6db colinear ant MAXON PM150/SM4450SC E- TX 489.1MHZ RX 483.900MHZ fitted with 6ld450s diplexer 6db colinear ant MAXON PM150/SM4450SC All coaxes are Heliax from antennas to Diplexers with N connectors Interconnecting cables between diplexers and radios are rg223u A and B are a 1.5 meter apart with C in the middle All antennas are mounted aprox 50 cms or more away from C or each other . D and E have a 1.5 meter between them ie- D A C B E I am at times having desense (ie scratch ) especially in windy weather occuring on repeaters B and D.It doesn't seem to affect the desense wether the transmitters are txing or not .There isnt any problem of the repeaters affectingeach other ,they all work great just the problem of scratch coming and going .A,C and E do get scratch on occasion but no whereas bad as D and B.D and B works great sometimes (clear with no scratch)and then reception willslowlydevelope major scratch and then slowly clear up -possibly electrostatic or wind moving the antennas ?.I havebeen fixing loose bolts on the windmill tower to stop problems incase of tower twist and this affecting service.I am wondering if there are any futhersugestions . Thank You, Ian Wells, Kerinvale Comaudio, www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Repeater-Builder" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
