Re: [Repeater-Builder] re: DDRR Antenna on a tower

2010-06-12 Thread Kris Kirby
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, skipp025 wrote:
 Keep in mind the DDRR Antenna is a reduced size vertical polarized 
 antenna and the Squalo  Ho-Loop are normally considered full or 
 standard size loop type antennas that are horizontally polarized.

 DDRR Antenna mounted on a tower?  Only if there were no other 
 decent options.Maybe, but I've never run into that situation. 

That would definately earn you the hammie award, which is a downward 
look from the commercial guys.

Also, DDRRs are notoriously touchy about the local environment and 
tuning. Expect a 500KHz wide 2:1 and if anything changes within a 
wavelength or less of the antenna, it's tuning will change.

In short, it's an antenna best used as a mobile, where you're likely to 
be able to keep it in tune.

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst


[Repeater-Builder] Re: DDRR Antenna on a tower

2010-06-12 Thread skipp025

Re: DDRR Antenna on a tower 

  Keep in mind the DDRR Antenna is a reduced size 
  vertical polarized antenna and the Squalo  Ho-Loop 
  are normally considered full or standard size loop 
  type antennas that are horizontally polarized. 
 
  DDRR Antenna mounted on a tower?  Only if there were no 
  other decent options. Maybe, but I've never run into 
  that situation. 

 Kris Kirby k...@... wrote: 
 That would definately earn you the hammie award, which is 
 a downward look from the commercial guys.

Don't want the commercial radio guys looking down at me any 
more than they already do... 

 Also, DDRRs are notoriously touchy about the local environment 
 and tuning. Expect a 500KHz wide 2:1 and if anything changes 
 within a wavelength or less of the antenna, it's tuning will 
 change.

Possibly why they are normally supplied with a radome. 

 In short, it's an antenna best used as a mobile, where 
 you're likely to be able to keep it in tune.

Hasn't been a problem so far, but I could be the exception 
to the rule book. I'll Keep the Kreco and Sinclair LB Antennas 
in place on the tower. 

thanks, 
s. 




[Repeater-Builder] re: DDRR Antenna on a tower

2010-06-10 Thread skipp025

 cruizzer77 atlant...@... wrote: 
 This DDRR antenna is also new to me but space-wise it is 
 even smaller than the Squalo so definitely worth considering, 

Keep in mind the DDRR Antenna is a reduced size vertical polarized 
antenna and the Squalo  Ho-Loop are normally considered full or
standard size loop type antennas that are horizontally polarized. 

And most mobiles working FM are vertical polarized signals. 

 ... especially because I wouldn't want to try the squalo if 
 the majority says it won't perform as expected.

It should preform exactly as we expect it would. But not as 
you might desire it would... 

 Would you use just one of them even though it's on the side 
 of the tower or 2 or 4 of them around?

Squalo /or Ho-Loop rotated out of the normal mounting plane 
and installed on a tower?   Zero or not 

Your intention of possibly mounting a rotated Squalo or Ho-Loop 
is a popcorn fart.  They are normally considered a standard size 
loop and by the time you get one installed you've practically 
reached the size of a standard 1/4 ground plane. So avoid the 
obvious waste of time... and money. 

DDRR Antenna mounted on a tower?  Only if there were no other 
decent options.Maybe, but I've never run into that situation. 

s.