[Repeater-Builder] Re: Two Repeaters, One Antenna

2008-02-21 Thread Laryn Lohman
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Chris Huber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about taking the 16 bay, and splitting the harness in the middle and feed a second cable for the additional repeater. Two antennas on one mast, less insertion loss, with combining the 2 duplexers. Or make

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Two Repeaters, One Antenna

2008-02-21 Thread Cort Buffington
Folks, Thanks for the input, but changing the configuration of the commercial repeater is not an option. I'll probably do a little tinkering, then end up putting up a separate antenna for my repeater below the other one. My reason for doing this is that it would have avoided me buying

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Two Repeaters, One Antenna

2008-02-20 Thread Jay Urish
When I talk combiner, think duplexer on steriods.. Do a google search on hybrid combiner.. A combiner with give you several rx and tx ports.. ldgelectronics wrote: That's not much information. Please explain how that would be used. Dwayne Kincaid WD8OYG --- In

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Two Repeaters, One Antenna

2008-02-20 Thread ldgelectronics
That's not much information. Please explain how that would be used. Dwayne Kincaid WD8OYG --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Jay Urish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is where you use a combiner...

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Two Repeaters, One Antenna

2008-02-20 Thread Ken Arck
At 12:18 PM 2/20/2008, you wrote: When I talk combiner, think duplexer on steriods.. Do a google search on hybrid combiner.. A combiner with give you several rx and tx ports.. ---Actually a combiner will give multiple TX ports. A multicoupler will give multiple RX Ports :-) Ken

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Two Repeaters, One Antenna

2008-02-20 Thread DCFluX
Isolators work with transmitters only. That would do nothing for getting signal from the antenna into the repeaters. What you need is a diplexer. That is a low pass / high pass filter network. These can be constructed with L/C high pass and low pass filters, but that usually only has enough Q to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Two Repeaters, One Antenna

2008-02-20 Thread DCFluX
BpBr duplexers only do wonders for the frequencies of intrest. That is the TX and RX frequencies. The space in between the 2 is somewhat attenuated, but the space outside the 2 frequencies is attenuated only -6 to -20dB depending on the frequency spacing, number of cavities and who made the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Two Repeaters, One Antenna

2008-02-20 Thread Cort Buffington
If the duplexers for each system are only 50 ohms at each receiver and transmitter, then I should see 4 frequencies where there is a 50 ohm load, and they are all different. Why would I need more than some sort of phasing harness to connect the two duplexers to the single transmission

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Two Repeaters, One Antenna

2008-02-20 Thread Jay Urish
I stand corrected! Ken Arck wrote: At 12:18 PM 2/20/2008, you wrote: When I talk combiner, think duplexer on steriods.. Do a google search on hybrid combiner.. A combiner with give you several rx and tx ports.. ---Actually a combiner will give multiple TX ports. A

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Two Repeaters, One Antenna

2008-02-20 Thread Jay Urish
Ken corrected me.. See his message-- Multicoupler.. ldgelectronics wrote: I know exactly what a hybrid combiner is (have several in use). I'm more curious to see how you propose to use that type of device to solve the problem that has been presented. Dwayne Kincaid WD8OYG When I

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Two Repeaters, One Antenna

2008-02-20 Thread ldgelectronics
I know exactly what a hybrid combiner is (have several in use). I'm more curious to see how you propose to use that type of device to solve the problem that has been presented. Dwayne Kincaid WD8OYG When I talk combiner, think duplexer on steriods.. Do a google search on hybrid combiner..

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Two Repeaters, One Antenna

2008-02-20 Thread Mike Dietrich
Cort, contact me off list about this, i have som eideas you can use. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Cort Buffington To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Two Repeaters, One Antenna

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Two Repeaters, One Antenna

2008-02-20 Thread skipp025
Seen and done this before... Two Motorola T-1500 type duplexers, one setup on each repeater along with the proper tx circulator for each. The antenna port of both duplexers joined with another coax T... if you want to be really on the money use a n-way and remove the two duplexer output

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Two Repeaters, One Antenna

2008-02-20 Thread Wesley01
Just what do you mean by an N-Way instead of the T connector, Never heard of this. Wesley AB8KD

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Two Repeaters, One Antenna

2008-02-20 Thread skipp025
Unless you want to spend time with the proper test equipment, it is probably a lot more prudent to make all the cavities in your mini antenna system the same or very similar types. The stacked T-1500 duplexer layout I describe has the antenna ports joined with another T... while this works

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Two Repeaters, One Antenna

2008-02-20 Thread Cort Buffington
T-1500 type is what's in the commercial repeater (micor). My repeater has a Wacom WP-678-R2 on it. Odd multiples of 1/4 coax between duplexer tees and the antenna tee? BTW: A big thanks to Skipp, Phil and the rest who've jumped in here today. I sometimes get some crazy notions (ham guy, not

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Two Repeaters, One Antenna

2008-02-20 Thread skipp025
Good question... So what do you call a T-Connector with more than 3 ends on it? A T Connector with 4 coax ports/ends on it is called a 4-Way ... or 4 Way Star. The N in N-Way is the number of available coax ports. Using the word star as a description can be tricky to those who think

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Two Repeaters, One Antenna

2008-02-20 Thread Jeff DePolo
If the duplexers for each system are only 50 ohms at each receiver and transmitter, then I should see 4 frequencies where there is a 50 ohm load, and they are all different. Why would I need more than some sort of phasing harness to connect the two duplexers to the single transmission

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Two Repeaters, One Antenna

2008-02-20 Thread Chris Huber
How about taking the 16 bay, and splitting the harness in the middle and feed a second cable for the additional repeater. Two antennas on one mast, less insertion loss, with combining the 2 duplexers. Or make the top antenna a Master receive and the bottom one transmit combined. Chris N6ICW