Re: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX

[Nate Duehr]

NonProfit Radio wrote:

> I didn't know ham radio suffered from a low level of self esteem to 
> automatically assume the worst possible connotation in someone's 
> comments. I was told that this was a better list to ask my question than 
> the LMR list because there was a better level of expertise here. 
> Instead, I get abused by list members who assume ham radio is the center 
> of the universe.

Heh, not a self-esteem problem -- we've just seen our repeater users try 
ANYTHING they can get away with!

(And other ham repeater owners/operators too.)

It is the "experimental" radio service, after all...!

:-)

Don't go away angry...!

No one meant anything bad by the good-natured ribbing...

We're a friendly bunch, we just bristle at "we've seen that problem 
before... too many times..." types of topics.

Nate WY0X




 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX

[Dick]

Kevin and group:
 
Well, FWIW, there's a 2 m ham rptr where I used to work and its 
autopatch
is connected to a company telephone extension.  Users can dial the UP 
code
for the patch, then use their DTMF pad to dial a call just as if they were 
using
their company desk phone.
 
The interesting thing is that we never had an instance of abusing the patch 
by
making business calls on it...not even a "Hi, I'm gonna be late to work" 
call.  
 
I've always fond hams to be a mutually helpful bunch and, in general, 
very
dedicated to keeping their operations legal.  And, yes, I'm a ham, 
too...and
I make my living working on communications systems...mainly military
SATCOM stuff and ham radio has often come up with creative help in
resolving problems.
 
I, for one, apologize to the writer who got flamed here.  
 
73,
 
Dick
 
- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Custer 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: 10 April, 2006 04:18
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a 
PBX
> Geez, the lowest common denominator I was referring to 
was > intelligence, not radio service. Many of the responses I got off 
list > were bashing me for allowing a ham repeater to be allowed "public 
> access" via the PBX. Something that I never stated. I got some lovely 
> hate comments to my initial post were "hey stupid, how are you going 
> to stop Joe Unlicensed from bootlegging on your repeater. The FCC is 
> going to love you, jerk" types of replies.>> I didn't 
know ham radio suffered from a low level of self esteem to > 
automatically assume the worst possible connotation in someone's > 
comments. I was told that this was a better list to ask my question > 
than the LMR list because there was a better level of expertise here. > 
Instead, I get abused by list members who assume ham radio is the > 
center of the universe.>> Enough about this. Thread closed, I'm 
done. I did appreciate the very > few civil and informative responses to 
my inquiries.First off, this list is comprised of mostly ham oriented 
repeater people.  There are likely more ham repeaters on the air then 
commercial, and even many commercial folks have their ham license, so *when 
you don't state your intentions* this list will likely assume you are a ham 
trying something out of the ordinary.Don't bash the list members 
because your lack of information was insufficient for them to tell what you 
were trying to do.Maybe next time be a bit clearer in your description 
and folks won't have to assume so much?Kevin CusterList 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX

[Kevin Custer]

> Geez, the lowest common denominator I was referring to was 
> intelligence, not radio service. Many of the responses I got off list 
> were bashing me for allowing a ham repeater to be allowed "public 
> access" via the PBX. Something that I never stated. I got some lovely 
> hate comments to my initial post were "hey stupid, how are you going 
> to stop Joe Unlicensed from bootlegging on your repeater. The FCC is 
> going to love you, jerk" types of replies.
>
> I didn't know ham radio suffered from a low level of self esteem to 
> automatically assume the worst possible connotation in someone's 
> comments. I was told that this was a better list to ask my question 
> than the LMR list because there was a better level of expertise here. 
> Instead, I get abused by list members who assume ham radio is the 
> center of the universe.
>
> Enough about this. Thread closed, I'm done. I did appreciate the very 
> few civil and informative responses to my inquiries.

First off, this list is comprised of mostly ham oriented repeater 
people.  There are likely more ham repeaters on the air then commercial, 
and even many commercial folks have their ham license, so *when you 
don't state your intentions* this list will likely assume you are a ham 
trying something out of the ordinary.

Don't bash the list members because your lack of information was 
insufficient for them to tell what you were trying to do.

Maybe next time be a bit clearer in your description and folks won't 
have to assume so much?

Kevin Custer
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

I 
wasn't trying to bash you..  just pointing out that it wasn't a very 
positive tactic..
Anyway, I hope your connectivity issue has been resolved.  And yes, 
there is a wealth of knowledge in this group.  Normally I don't post 
much..  but your comment just struck me as odd..
 
I did 
at least try to be cordial..
73MikeK5JMPwww.k5jmp.us

  -Original Message-From: 
  Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of NonProfit 
  RadioSent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 6:06 PMTo: 
  Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 
  Connecting a repeater to a PBX
  On 4/9/06, Mike 
  Perryman K5JMP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  

Dear 
Sir,
You might want to 
re-state your previous comment..

 
"I guess 
this group quickly assumes the ->lowest common denominator<- when 
responding to technical inquiries. 
:( "
   (not primarily responding to the comment 
  above)Geez, the lowest common denominator I was referring to was 
  intelligence, not radio service. Many of the responses I got off list were 
  bashing me for allowing a ham repeater to be allowed "public access" via the 
  PBX. Something that I never stated. I got some lovely hate comments to my 
  initial post were "hey stupid, how are you going to stop Joe Unlicensed from 
  bootlegging on your repeater. The FCC is going to love you, jerk" types of 
  replies. I didn't know ham radio suffered from a low level of self 
  esteem to automatically assume the worst possible connotation in someone's 
  comments. I was told that this was a better list to ask my question than the 
  LMR list because there was a better level of expertise here. Instead, I get 
  abused by list members who assume ham radio is the center of the universe. 
  Enough about this. Thread closed, I'm done. I did appreciate the very 
  few civil and informative responses to my 
  inquiries.













  




  
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX

[NonProfit Radio]

On 4/9/06, Mike Perryman K5JMP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:







Dear 
Sir,
You 
might want to re-state your previous comment..
 
"I guess this group quickly assumes the ->lowest 
common denominator<- when responding to technical inquiries. 
:( " (not primarily responding to the comment above)Geez, the lowest common denominator I was referring to was intelligence, not radio service. Many of the responses I got off list were bashing me for allowing a ham repeater to be allowed "public access" via the PBX. Something that I never stated. I got some lovely hate comments to my initial post were "hey stupid, how are you going to stop Joe Unlicensed from bootlegging on your repeater. The FCC is going to love you, jerk" types of replies.
I didn't know ham radio suffered from a low level of self esteem to automatically assume the worst possible connotation in someone's comments. I was told that this was a better list to ask my question than the LMR list because there was a better level of expertise here. Instead, I get abused by list members who assume ham radio is the center of the universe. 
Enough about this. Thread closed, I'm done. I did appreciate the very few civil and informative responses to my inquiries.














  




  
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX

[Maire-Radios]

think I have a phone patch 
for the Ritron  repeater
 
 send me your Email 
address I need more info.
 
John
 
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  NonProfit Radio 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 8:03 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 
  Connecting a repeater to a PBX
  The repeater is a commercial repeater, not ham, of 
  course. Sorry I didn't spell it out. Didn't think it was necessary given the 
  described situation of the proposed access. This group caters to all repeater 
  types and is not limited to just ham repeaters. Many (most?) PBXs can 
  restrict access to certain extensions so that we can control who can access 
  the repeater. This is an internal only extension that is limited so that only 
  a few internal extensions can call it. Rather than set up a number of 
  tone remotes, I'd prefer to use our existing PBX because it affords us greater 
  flexibility.I guess this group quickly assumes the lowest common 
  denominator when responding to technical inquiries. :( 













  




  
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX

[Nate Duehr]

NonProfit Radio wrote:

> I guess this group quickly assumes the lowest common denominator when 
> responding to technical inquiries. :(

Heh... I always thought commercial systems were the ones that catered to 
the lowest common denominator... (ducks...)...

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX

[Mike Perryman K5JMP]

Dear 
Sir,
You 
might want to re-state your previous comment..
 
"I guess this group quickly assumes the ->lowest 
common denominator<- when responding to technical inquiries. 
:( "
 
While many of the folks who frequent this list are 
professional engineers working in the industry, be it Broadcast or LMR.  I 
might dare say the vast majority of us consider ourselves to be hams 
first.  In my own mind it is nice to be paid to enjoy my hobby for a 
living..  not the other way around!
 
Just a thought to consider...  good luck in your 
efforts.
-Mike 
Perryman Cavell, Mertz 
& Davis, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Engineers   
7839 Ashton AvenueK5JMP 
Manassas, VA 20109 USA(703) 392-9090; (703) 
392-9559 fax; DC Line (202) 332-0110-
 

  -Original Message-From: 
  Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of NonProfit 
  RadioSent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 8:04 AMTo: 
  Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 
  Connecting a repeater to a PBXThe repeater is a 
  commercial repeater, not ham, of course. Sorry I didn't spell it out. Didn't 
  think it was necessary given the described situation of the proposed access. 
  This group caters to all repeater types and is not limited to just ham 
  repeaters. Many (most?) PBXs can restrict access to certain extensions 
  so that we can control who can access the repeater. This is an internal only 
  extension that is limited so that only a few internal extensions can call it. 
  Rather than set up a number of tone remotes, I'd prefer to use our 
  existing PBX because it affords us greater flexibility.I guess this 
  group quickly assumes the lowest common denominator when responding to 
  technical inquiries. :( 
  













  




  
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX

[NonProfit Radio]

The repeater is a commercial repeater, not ham, of course. Sorry I didn't spell it out. Didn't think it was necessary given the described situation of the proposed access. This group caters to all repeater types and is not limited to just ham repeaters.
Many (most?) PBXs can restrict access to certain extensions so that we can control who can access the repeater. This is an internal only extension that is limited so that only a few internal extensions can call it.
Rather than set up a number of tone remotes, I'd prefer to use our existing PBX because it affords us greater flexibility.I guess this group quickly assumes the lowest common denominator when responding to technical inquiries. :(















  




  
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX

[FHS]

By using an interconnect with a security code that must be entered by the 
caller before they get connected: such as the Motorola MRTI. They are on the 
market cheep. I just picked up a spare MRTI-1000 on ebay for a dollar plus 
shipping. A little difficult to program but not unmanageable.
Fred W5VAY

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Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX


>
>  I wonder how will you keep wrong extension dialers from using
> an FCC License required radio system?
>
>  Neil - WA6KLA
>
>
>  Original Message 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX
> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 19:18:22 -0400
>
>>I am looking for a low end method (aka cheap ) of connecting
>>our small
>>campus repeater to our PBX so that users can dial an extension and
>>communicate over the repeater. We don't need to initiate access to
>>the PBX
>>from the repeater side. Someone told me that the CSI 5200 units could
>>fit
>>this bill. Any ideas?
>>
>>Bob
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX

[N9LLO]

This is not a Ham repeater is it? You can dial my work radio from anywhere if I give you the number!
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX

[Maire-Radios]

what freg are you on?  
tone code?
 
thanks  
John
 

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  Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 4:42 
PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 
  Connecting a repeater to a PBX
  Thanks for all the ideas so far. The repeater 
  is an old Ritron Responder. It has an internal factory controller but there is 
  a Molex connector on the rear. The PBX does support analog phones.













  




  
  
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX

[n . mckie]

  I wonder how will you keep wrong extension dialers from using 
 an FCC License required radio system? 

  Neil - WA6KLA 


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Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 19:18:22 -0400

>I am looking for a low end method (aka cheap ) of connecting
>our small
>campus repeater to our PBX so that users can dial an extension and
>communicate over the repeater. We don't need to initiate access to
>the PBX
>from the repeater side. Someone told me that the CSI 5200 units could
>fit
>this bill. Any ideas?
>
>Bob






 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX

[NonProfit Radio]

Thanks for all the ideas so far. The repeater is an old Ritron Responder. It has an internal factory controller but there is a Molex connector on the rear. The PBX does support analog phones.














  




  
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX

[Andrew]

This maybe what you are looking for ...

http://www.zapatatelephony.org/app_rpt.html

Hope this helps

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NonProfit Radio wrote:
> I am looking for a low end method (aka cheap ) of connecting our 
> small campus repeater to our PBX so that users can dial an extension and 
> communicate over the repeater. We don't need to initiate access to the 
> PBX from the repeater side. Someone told me that the CSI 5200 units 
> could fit this bill. Any ideas?
> 
> Bob





 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX

[Mike Morris]

At 04:18 PM 04/06/06, you wrote:
I am looking for a low end
method (aka cheap ) of connecting our small campus repeater
to our PBX so that users can dial an extension and communicate over the
repeater. We don't need to initiate access to the PBX from the repeater
side. Someone told me that the CSI 5200 units could fit this bill. Any
ideas? 
Bob 
What repeater controller do you have?  Or if it's a packaged
repeater, what model?
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX

[Maire-Radios]

what kind of repeater is 
it?
 
 

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  Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:18 
  PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a 
  repeater to a PBX
  I am looking for a low end method (aka cheap ) 
  of connecting our small campus repeater to our PBX so that users can dial an 
  extension and communicate over the repeater. We don't need to initiate access 
  to the PBX from the repeater side. Someone told me that the CSI 5200 units 
  could fit this bill. Any ideas? Bob 













  




  
  
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Connecting a repeater to a PBX

[Steve Strobel]

At 05:18 PM 4/6/2006, you wrote:
>I am looking for a low end method (aka cheap ) of connecting 
>our small campus repeater to our PBX so that users can dial an 
>extension and communicate over the repeater. We don't need to 
>initiate access to the PBX from the repeater side. Someone told me 
>that the CSI 5200 units could fit this bill. Any ideas?
>
>Bob

If your repeater controller supports an "autopatch" or "telephone 
interconnect", that would be the most straightforward way.  As long 
as the PBX supports normal analog phones (not some digital or VoIP 
variety), the controller should be able to treat the connection to 
the PBX the same way it would a normal "POTS" line provided by the 
phone company.

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