Re: moderation for repository@apache.org

2005-01-07 Thread Erik Abele
On 06.01.2005, at 21:04, Brett Porter wrote:
Hi,
Is it possible that I can moderate the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail 
list? We seem to be getting a lot of non-subscribers posting there 
(and crossposting to infra@), and I'd prefer to keep the discussion 
together on the other list by letting them through.
Noel was the only one moderating repository@ and so I've just added 
you...

Cheers,
Erik
(cc'ed repository@ too keep them in the loop)
Thanks,
Brett



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Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-07 Thread Leo Simons
Hi gang,

On 05-01-2005 09:39, Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What relationship does the repository list have with Maven?
 What relationship does Maven have with the repository list?
 
 Ass Brett Porter has written, and I agree:
 
 1) Maven PMC takes ownership for getting the repository right

IIRC [EMAIL PROTECTED] is actually a President's committee sort-of hanging
off infra@ that's been tasked with figuring all this stuff out. The reason
its not just the Maven PMC in the first place is that there's some other
people that have something to say as well (i.e. precisely the people listed
below). So I don't get why there's an ownership issue to reconsider. The
maven PMC peeps to work on this (Brett, Mark, anyone else who volunteers)
just get on the repository mailing list and JFDI.

 2) Henk, myself (Maven PMC), Mark Diggory (if available), representative
 from interested Apache projects PMC (most likely someone from Ant) get
 together to sort out exactly what we think needs doing (we can use the
 repository list if appropriate)

Yep, sounds like a good idea.

 3) suggest small steps to fix each problem rather than coming up with a
 killer solution that will never get implemented

Sounds like a good idea too. I'm guessing this is why I bailed out of that
mailing list in the first place; we were solving too big a problem at once.

 4) can use the repository wiki for information based on what has already
 been discussed

And again, sounds like a good idea.

 I'd add that to use a common repository, there needs an implementation
 for all projects to use.

The [EMAIL PROTECTED] project was not tasked to deal with that. I think this
conflicts with #3.

Maven has support, ant will have support, magic (from the DPML guys) has
support, several ant-based scripts are around that provide support. Any tool
that can HTTP GET can trivially be made to get files from the repository.
For example I think I've done the basics in python, ruby, and bash+wget+grep
every now and then.


Cheers,


- Leo




Re: Maven and repository@apache.org

2005-01-07 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 06 January 2005 09:21, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
 How do you get around the problem that it is very difficult to get a
 url handler installed?  Does this library work only when it is
 installed into the system class path?

That is corrrect.
The issue is in the java.net.URL handling, where the internal class (I think 
it was called URLClassPath) first tries to load the Handler with the callers 
Classloader (which is the Bootstrap CL since java.net.URL is the caller), and 
since that will fail for all custom ones, it then tries 
ClassLoader.getSystemClassLoader();

Unfortunately, so far Sun claims that the security issues are so unclear, that 
they do not intend to fix this.

I fully agree that this is less than an ideal situation, but messing with the 
default URLStreamHandlerFactory was not any better.

Internally we are working on a two layered approach, where the Handler is 
loaded by the System CL, but the entire workload is delegated down to 
reloadable parts. That is not ready yet.


Cheers
Niclas
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